The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

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So anyway, now it’s confirmed that (show) Stormfront was a V1 user- explaining why she still looks she’s in her late 20’s despite being the same age as Soldier Boy and Bombsight- is there an explanation why she was vulnerable to Ryan and the lesser heroes? Or is this yet another case of powers changing depending on the needs of the plot?
It just seems like it gives you super slow aging, anything else is a placebo.
 
It just seems like it gives you super slow aging, anything else is a placebo.
According to the wiki it kills most people who take it, but those who survive are biologically immortal and exhibit enhanced superpowers. If you’re a V-supe and take V1 it also enhances existing powers.

Also according to the wiki:
Superhuman Durability: Stormfront tanking Homelander's heat vision
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Stormfront tanking Homelander's heat vision

  • Stormfront possesses incredible superhuman durability, making her more resilient than humans and most Supes. She was able to withstand repeated impacts through concrete structures during fights with Kimiko and Homelander with minimal visible injury. To Homelander's astonishment, she also endured a sustained heat vision attack that caused pain and superficial burns but failed to seriously harm her. Stormfront further demonstrated resistance to Starlight’s concussive energy blasts, which were capable of knocking her down but not inflicting significant damage. She was likewise unfazed by concentrated gunfire from pistols and shotguns at close range. Despite this, Stormfront was not invulnerable. The combined assault of Queen Maeve, Starlight, and Kimiko was enough to overwhelm her, while Ryan’s heat vision critically injured her, severing her limbs and leaving her permanently mutilated. Her eyes also appeared significantly less durable than the rest of her body, as Becca Butcher was able to pierce one of them with an ordinary knife.
  • Regenerative Healing Factor: Stormfront possesses a limited, but rapid regenerative healing ability. The wound made by Homelander's laser vision began to heal almost instantly. After losing an eye, an arm and both legs, her healing factor managed to cauterize her wounds and save her life, however it was not powerful enough to regrow her lost limbs.
Yeah I’m calling this as a ‘plot needs it to happen’ situation, YMMV.
 
The CIA wouldn't have fought Vought. They would have contracted them to make super agents.
The Boys was meant to be a glowie organisation, the Boys got the only supe they needed.

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The CIA wouldn't have fought Vought. They would have contracted them to make super agents.
I think (in the comics at least) the CIA was worried about National Defense relying on Supes when those Supes were almost universally incompetent pieces of shit and subject to blackmail.

There’s also the implication of an arms race, analogous to the Cold War, in which there’s a risk of a hostile nation developing a supe ‘better’ than Vought can. Glorious Seven Year Plan, the Soviet premier supe team, was a joke, but the risk was there for them to have a supe that could easily defeat Homelander.

At the end of the comics, Vought creates a new super team, The Pure, which are basically identical to the Seven and a number of second-rank heroes, and still have all the same flaws, right down to the new Deep still having to wear his helmet. This implies Vought’s ability to create supes is more limited than previously shown.

Plus, the CIA had access to a stabilized form of V, hence Hughie, Butcher and Frenchie using it to gain super-strength (Mother’s Milk and The Female already having superpowers) and Mallory gaining extended lifespan (with possible other abilities).

In my comics headcanon, Edgar and Butcher already have unusual forms of superpowers. Edgar is super-intelligent and completely immune to fear or panic, and Butcher has the ability to innately perceive personality flaws and motivations, which is why he’s so good at manipulating and blackmailing people. YMMV again.
 
Ennis also gifted us with Crossed, which is probably where Western comics finally hit rock bottom. He should genuinely apologize to the whole of the human race for that one.
no man, you don't get it. it's like, what if humans were fucked up and evil by nature...being "crossed" just means you're not holding that evil back...they're not zombies with guns, look, they assrape everyone. it's really deep, actually.
 
I wonder, why The Boys is so badly drawn? Bad writing calling for awful art, maybe?
The books were dropped by multiple publishers during their run, and Darick Robertson was forced to look for work elsewhere during hiatus, so when they got picked up again he wasn’t always available. Hence Ezquerra (who I love but was clearly past his prime) and the McCrea/Burns team for Herogasm (whose art is extremely average at the best of times and downright awful when they’re in a hurry).

Robertson’s actually pretty good when he has the time he needs. Other work he’s done, like ‘.303’, is very decent, certainly better than hacks like Rob Liefeld or Jeff Spokes.

the CIA killed supes whenever they could get away with it.
Examples? Lamplighter was sacrificed to Mallory as a peace offering, Blarney Cock was an accident, A-Train wasn’t sanctioned by the CIA, the 150 in Russia was unsanctioned (as far as I can remember) and the first ‘kill mission’ Butcher performs for Mallory (going in through the top of the house with the FN-FAL) isn’t explained as sanctioned, it just happens.
 
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Ennis also gifted us with Crossed, which is probably where Western comics finally hit rock bottom. He should genuinely apologize to the whole of the human race for that one.
The dog version of Crossed, Rover Red Charlie, was fun. Not as good as We3, but a worthwhile contribution to the Three Animals Go On an Adventure genre. And the Crossed universe gave Moore some interesting material to play with in Crossed +100. The Beau Salt chapter is a hoot. "As usual, I feel that other people are making way too much out of this."

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Why is he called Mother's Milk?
In the comics, it’s because he literally needs his mother’s milk to survive. He has super strength but wastes away if he doesn’t regularly drink it.

His entire family gets fucked over by Vought and V which is why he is on board with The Boys even though he disagrees with Butcher and his methods.
His mother’s a grotesque blob with prehensile breasts, as she was affected by V from a pet food cannery she used to work that which was improperly cleaned after it was used as a V manufacturing plant.
His brother was born intellectually disabled and died as a teen when the V caused him to rapidly grow. He was wearing a football helmet which crushed his skull when he suddenly tripled in size.
His father worked himself into an early grave looking for ways to sue Vought over the death.
His daughter had accelerated aging and was put into mother-daughter porn (by her crackhead mother) when she was about 12 because she looked 19.
He himself almost caught a manslaughter charge when the V manifested in his super strength in the middle of a boxing match and he accidentally punched his opponent’s head clean off.
The only thing that saved him was Butcher showing up and recruiting him from his military prison cell.

Butcher recruits MM for the same reason he recruits Hughie; he’s looking for good people who hate Vought and can’t be bought off, and will hopefully not turn out to be complete cunts once the stabilised V gives them super strength.
Butcher recognizes that he’s become exactly the same kind of homicidal monster that he’s supposed to keep contained. He recruits Hughie because he recognizes that Hughie is innately good, and Butcher desperately needs someone like Hughie to not become a cunt after being given superpowers, so that there’s at least one True Superhero to stop Butcher carrying out his planned genocide.
 
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His entire family gets fucked over by Vought and V which is why he is on board with The Boys even though he disagrees with Butcher and his methods.
Thank you. The show did not explain that at all.

Honestly though, the backstory sounds bizarre. I do not like the comics backstory, based on how you described it. I prefer the show's version (or at least the concept because they just abandon it after a while).
 
the backstory sounds bizarre
It is. But:

Butcher not only gets MM out of jail free for accidentally killing his opponent in the boxing match, he also:
  • Gets beaten almost to death by a crew of black gang members over a cultural misunderstanding when he accompanies MM to get his infant daughter back from a crack lord. Butcher could have killed a bunch of them easily but takes the beating instead, showing MM he can exercise restraint.
  • Scares more gang members off from MM’s (is twelve, looks eighteen) daughter by snatching one of their Glocks and crushing it with his bare hands, before ordering her to go back inside and treat her father with more respect (she treats him like shit in that stereotypical ’oh no you dittnt’ way that she learned from her whore of a crackhead mother).
  • Rescues MM’s (underage) daughter from her mother and the porn studio by basically walking in and killing every person there with his bare hands, including her mother. Not purely out of moral outrage but also because he needs MM focused on the job and not his daughter and her mother. His daughter recounts the story to MM and he’s fucking horrified; this is the first moment that drives a wedge between Butcher and MM.

The thing that a lot of people miss in the comics is that everything happens for a reason, and those reasons are often not revealed until very late in the story. You should never pay any attention to the comics’ critiques by anyone who didn’t read the whole run, preferably twice. Be especially wary of people who dismiss the comics as edgy slop, they’re just proving they either didn’t read them or don’t understand them.
 
The show explains it in season 3. Soldier Boy threw a car which ended up killing his grandpa and his family financially ruined itself trying to sue Vought.
I meant the show didn't explains the "Mother's Milk" moniker specifically, not the whole character backstory.

Also I looked it up and it apparently has been released as of recently:
 
I meant the show didn't explains the "Mother's Milk" moniker specifically, not the whole character backstory.

Also I looked it up and it apparently has been released as of recently:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ojHQOpufFS8
Oh that, yeah that story comes out of nowhere and is incredibly unsatisfying like most things in this season.

The thing that a lot of people miss in the comics is that everything happens for a reason, and those reasons are often not revealed until very late in the story. You should never pay any attention to the comics’ critiques by anyone who didn’t read the whole run, preferably twice. Be especially wary of people who dismiss the comics as edgy slop, they’re just proving they either didn’t read them or don’t understand them.
Things can happen for a reason but still be edgy slop. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
 
Things can happen for a reason but still be edgy slop.
I’d consider ‘edgy slop’ to be graphic sex and/or violence for no reason. Pretty much everything in the comics happens for a reason, no matter how unpleasant they are.
 
The thing that a lot of people miss in the comics is that everything happens for a reason, and those reasons are often not revealed until very late in the story. You should never pay any attention to the comics’ critiques by anyone who didn’t read the whole run, preferably twice. Be especially wary of people who dismiss the comics as edgy slop, they’re just proving they either didn’t read them or don’t understand them.
I get the point, although I'm not super convinced that Ennis was secretly intentional or a masterclass writer.

On that note, can you explain this
There a russian midget girl in the comics, that loved using dildoes and ended up blowing up when one had explosives in it.
But, from what I remember, those were normal dildoes, nothing giant about them. She was just small.
 
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