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The childhood transition narrative is crumbling

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The narrative about childhood transition that transgender activists have been selling is slowly crumbling. Last week, Reuters published an investigation into the exponential increase in teenage girls wanting to transition, acknowledging that referrals to gender clinics have been overrepresented by this population. For many, their gender dysphoria is influenced by their peers and social media.

For anyone who’s been following this issue for a while, you may be thinking, "Oh, really?" The piece also described a variety of reasons why a young woman may want to live as a man, including mental health issues besides gender dysphoria, hatred of her body, sexism, and not wanting to be sexualized due to being female.

WHY CAN'T WE LET CHILDREN BE CHILDREN?

Regarding the desire to change one’s body, a recent study published in JAMA Pediatrics found a total of 1,130 double mastectomies were performed on minors between 2016 and 2019, representing a 389% increase. The study also documented relatively high rates of anxiety (about 21%) and depression (about 16%), in addition to gender dysphoria, in these patients. Another analysis, discussed by Reuters, found at least 776 double mastectomies performed in the past three years on patients as young as 13.

In the United States, the sex ratio of gender referrals, once dominated by boys, is nearly 2-to-1 today and dominated by girls. As bans on "gender-affirming care" are being debated in dozens of states, Florida has continued to take an evidence-based stance in combating radical gender theory and protecting children. Following a request from Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo, the state’s Board of Medicine and Board of Osteopathic Medicine decided to prohibit transition-related procedures, including hormones and surgery, for minors earlier this month.

Adolescence is a time characterized by trying on different identities and being impulsive and suggestible. It’s no wonder that friend groups, social media, and online communities have the potential to shape young people’s minds and behaviors in such powerful ways.

A few years ago, the concept of transition regret and detransitioning remained relatively rare. Now, as the number of detransitioners continues to grow, I hope that more policymakers will take heed and listen to their voices. The fact that mainstream news outlets are gradually pulling the reins on the early transitioning movement is an indication that the cultural tide is turning. But concern and support for detransitioners must remain, even after the battle against childhood transition has been won.
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The childhood transition narrative is crumbling

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Requested by @JosephStalin. Please God, let this be true, for the sake of children everywhere.

 

[OrionBalls]

Another example is ‘young people now are so switched on politically’, when they’re not, there still twats, just like they’ve always been. The current crop of youth aren’t special and I hate how they and their fashionable opinions are fetishised by lefty Gen Xers who feel old but want to be seen as still with the zeitgeist. Sad fuckers.

I thought GenX in general hated labels, which is what the newest culture depends on. Most of them are conservative, especially since they came of age in the time of Yuppies. Socially liberal, fiscally conservative. But leave the labels behind.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

What happened that made kids so easily influenced? Now, I can't say I have the absolute ideal mental health, but its easy to say that none of my issues stem from watching some cartoon I wasn't supposed to when I was twelve.

Children are by their very nature easily influenced, the only way to become a free thinking person who is hard to manipulate is through experience and empirical evidence, neither of which children have had time to develop or accrue. It's the reason the age of consent exists in the first place, children will go so far as to consent to something that they know is against their best interest or someting that they know they don't want to do purely for the sake of wanting others to like and accept them.

 

[pikachudidnothingwrong]

Can't wait until this shit goes the way of the lobotomy. Just horrible shit that's been promoted and facilitated by horrid pieces of human garbage whose only punishment should be getting thrown in the brazen bull.

Seriously.. because that's all it really is... a sexual lobotomy.

 

[Speakeasy Electric]

About 50,000 people received lobotomies in the United States, most of them between 1949 and 1952. I don’t know how to find the numbers for how many people have been subjected to medical transitioning, but it seems more widespread. I only hope in 60 or so years they’re commenting on it in horror, like the lobotomy. We need a modern “One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest”

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

We need a modern “One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest”

You'd need a real give-no-fucks-I've-got-literally-nothing-to-lose type of person to do that these days, though.

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

The left has also adopted this weird "profound wisdom of the innocent children" thing where kids like Jazz Jennings and Gretta Thunberg are taken seriously, despite obviously being the puppets of their handlers.

Interestingly, it's not the first time that's happened in history (typically it's been a religious thing) and it always ends in disaster because kids are retarded.

It still is a religious thing - They worship purity of thought, and in their eyes, what can be purer than an untainted child? Well, a child thats been 'correctly' guided in the world.

The idea is supposed to be that if a kid can point out what should be an obvious flaw upon hearing something for the first time, then there is probably something that needs serious review. You know, the whole “Even a child can see something is wrong here!” deal. The deal that only exists because kids are dumb, yet willing to state the obvious with zero tact whatsoever.

 

[Unnecessary Surgery Land]

This is good but we really need to make it where schools/daycare can refuse to hire 'genderqueer' weirdos.

 

[Matt Damon]

You know, the whole “Even a child can see something is wrong here!” deal. The deal that only exists because kids are dumb, yet willing to state the obvious with zero tact whatsoever.

And it requires something that's obvious in the first place - a very gradual change in average global climate is about the least obvious problem you could possibly imagine. It requires lots of people doing lots of measurements all over the world over a long period of time and there's massive potential for error in measurement, data analysis, and conclusions drawn from that data.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Last week, Reuters published an investigation

I truly enjoy when MSM discover things that the rest of us who still remain sane have been saying for the past two or three years. Like Hunter's laptop.

Man, I like anime, but more and more it seems to be fucking with people's heads.

It's not anime. Anime's been a thing in Europe and Latin America since the 70s and you don't see a bunch of euro or latino boys trooning up. I remember at least three animes (Lady Oscar, Utena, Princess Knight) when the female protagonist also had to pretend or act as a man, and no girl said she was a man and chopped her tits either. And then Japan itself isn't having a troon epidemic.

 

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I remember as a kid being taught history and reading some of the stuff that happened way back when. I can't help but wonder if teachers are going to explain this sort of phenomenon fifty years from now or just pretend it didn't happen like so many other weird occurrences in history.

Imagine if the response to the emo goth ~thing~ wasn't eye rolling and generally trying not to kick their assess, but parents being told if they didn't let their children get face tattoos and skin whitening surgery they were committing a hate crime and would have said children taken out of the home. Oh and the teachers are preaching how everyone's a sensitive boi and their poetry is really awesome and wouldn't some black clothing and facepaint be cool? Wait nevermind, the school already arranged for the first tattoo appointment without your consent, so now you just have to deal with the permanent black teardrops on your kid's face, and if you don't like that then we'll have you fired and your mortgage revoked, bigot.

Imagine those emo goths 20, 30 years later only every fucking retarded drop of facepaint was tattooed on, every shitty bit of poetry engraved on their flesh instead. Imagine your middle management at McDonalds explaining "yeah when I was a kid I went through a ~phase~" except instead of saying it over beers with friends he's having to explain it to every fucking person that sees him because it's engraved on his face.

That's the transgender craze in 2050. A bunch of utterly broken people with their teenage madness burned upon their skin, forever. And a bunch of elderly assholes who will be a combination of "well I was one of the ones preaching sanity (they weren't)" and "well detransitioning is just a fad they'll realize we were right eventually" and "the moon squirrels tell me that there's no such thing as biology, as long as we BELIEVE, and I have PEER REVIEWED STUDIES that AGREE WITH ME, KKKAPITALIST!

But more importantly, the birthrate, especially of white people, will have absolutely cratered. So the god's chosen actually behind all this will gleefully cackle and explain this is why we need to import more brown people, goyim -- you stupid goys castrated yourselves en mass, after all! No transsexual craze in Israel, they didn't allow that shit to go down.

Of course, I could be wrong. At the rate we're going, by 2050 they might actually have transitioning tech that doesn't suck feminine penis. Go in to a pod, come out a week later as a hot chick, or some androgynous nightmare out of a Slanneshi fever dream. But as it stands I feel we're going to have to explain this shit to people while the people responsible do whatever they can to muddy the waters and pretend half the shit we've seen never happened.

 

[Dysnomia]

I thought GenX in general hated labels, which is what the newest culture depends on. Most of them are conservative, especially since they came of age in the time of Yuppies. Socially liberal, fiscally conservative. But leave the labels behind.

I still hate labels mostly. Since stuff wasn't compartmentalized into 50,000 sooper special boxes back then and anyone with half a brain laughed their ass off at participation trophies, I'd say the Xers you that latch on to the troon industrial machine are the ones that we'd call posers and tell to GTFO. Believe me, if someone was lame or a loser back then we told them. No one gave a fuck about your hurt feelings. PC talk died on the vine in the 90s because it became it's own joke. when I started picking up steam again I was really disappointed to see so many youth grab hold of it instead of making woke jokes.

The big problem is not the PC stuff itself. Not all of it is horrible when put in the right context or used in the right situation. It's when it's blanket hammered into everyone's skulls. Carpet bombed into all media and social functions until you become the pariah when you won't call Bob Susan and pretend "she" passes. I feel like they need to save that stuff for the clubs and at home. You are not a woman, you look ridiculous and playing along with your gender LARP makes me uncomfortable as a woman.

Like with pronouns. If you want to think of yourself as xey/zir/Voldemortself go ahead. But I don't have to participate in your silly name games and don't ask me again. I'm pretty liberal for the most part. But I draw the line at pronoun retardation, troons forcing themselves into gendered spaces and grooming kids and all this crazy transitioning of children.

I think it's horrible that girls as young as 13 are yeeting teets because they feel uncomfortable with their bodies and end up being groomed online. There's a good chance many of the tumblrs by "trans youth" are really adults just grooming kids into their fetish. They know they are at very vulnerable ages where body insecurity is at it's worse. It definitely is hard for girls when you start developing. When you see how some men treat you and even some women it's stressful and you can easily fall into a pattern of hating yourself. These girls are being told that mastectomies are the answer because if they hate their breasts they must be trans. This is ludicrous. Why can't the therapy be geared towards understanding that physical changes are a part of life? I really hope some day we look back at these doctors as butchers and it's seen as horrific.

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

From the Reuters article they cite (which is a better read)

Man, I like anime, but more and more it seems to be fucking with people's heads.

Gonna have to say that this is not anime’s fault just the same as it isn’t video games’ fault when someone does a shooting. There was a sharp line that the old anime community used to have about what a kid should never see, but nowadays it is nonexistent because of the garbage infesting the hobby group.

The kid was 12 when she was watching yaoi. That's the real fucked up part detractors don't seem to realize. I watched anime at her age, but I didn't watch that kind of shit, and never once did I think "I should become a boy." This is what happens when Saturday morning cartoons/anime blocks go away, leaving only unmoderated streaming where TV-MA shows aren't locked away behind age-restriction walls/premium, or (much more likely) when you don't monitor what your child does online.

There is a reason the censor/editor board exists. No one at that age should have free or easy access to yaoi or hentai. None whatsoever. Also, the yaoi boards (I know the article said trans boards, but the kid had to be on both) are chock full of “creepy girls” that no one wants to touch with a 1000 foot pole.

Yaoi fangirls are meddling landwhales/creeps (a good number can look/act sane, until you bring up yaoi) that love drama, and what generates more drama than a struggling preteen trans story that they themselves started?

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Some days I feel like transgenderism is weeding out the mentally ill and convinces them to sterilize themselves without it outright being labeled as eugenics because it's the individual's decision.

This is a decent cope, but it's still 100% cope. It almost works until you look at the schools where an entire female peer group has just been mowed down by this shit. The ones in England where it was 1 in 5 of the girls- there have been a good handful of schools where a whistleblower said the numbers of genderspecials was that high. Then you realize that this isn't the kind of "mental illness" that can be weeded out of society by allowing a few kids to pick themselves off early or hop out of the gene pool. No, this shit is contagious, more contagious and virulent than the flu or covid, and kids who otherwise would have been just fine can be wiped out by it in the blink of an eye.

Then what?

This right here is a big one.. and is not just every bit as insidious and destructive as attacks on boys via fallacies like "toxic masculinity" but the literal other side of the coin! An unforeseen side effect or intentional outcome, it's not clear.. But the the pushing of "sexualisation" and "objectification" dogma is the direct cause. Victimhood is a passive state, and maturity, sexuality and sexual attributes are more than a liability, but a form of disability instead.

The "males looking at females sexually, dehumanizes females" argument is every bit as counter-factual/reality as the rejection of "sticks and stones" and "it's what's on the inside that counts" type logic by the prog left. It attacks males and criminalizes their sexuality while turning females into powerless perpetual victims. It's not hard to see this perverse idea in action... Simply look at social media and major sexual discourse.

Bingo. The problem with how terfs want to address this is they want to double down on that. And this ideology- which is already rampant in our schools, media, etc- is exactly what triggers the "dysphoria" for a number of kids. A boy who doesn't want to be seen as a vicious beast because of his normal sexual desires can overthink his way into being a "lesbian." A girl who wants to have a boyfriend without being a victim "at risk" for "DV, reproductive coercion, and life ruination!" can overthink her way into being a gayden. This is responsible for far more cases than anyone wants to admit.

What happened that made kids so easily influenced? Now, I can't say I have the absolute ideal mental health, but its easy to say that none of my issues stem from watching some cartoon I wasn't supposed to when I was twelve.

They are lonely. Their parents gave them life and then went back to work.

 

[Koby_Fish]

Similarly, you can't get a tattoo until you're 18 so why the fuck would you be allowed to sterilize yourself for reasons outside of a dire medical emergency? I'm not necessarily saying that legal age restrictions always make sense, only that some sense of consistency would be fantastic. As it is now, a significant percentage of the people who bemoan that you're allowed to sign up for the military before you can drink in the US somehow think it's fine to make the call to stop your body from developing when you're 10.

people have been sold a bill of goods, including gullible liberal parents, that if you don't do "gender-affirming care" up to and including top and bottom surgery on a literal child, said child will become An Hero. The theory being, the earlier the transition, the easier said child will "pass" as the opposite gender later on in life. This is why they call "Gender-affirming care" "lifesaving". They want everybody to believe that every transitioned-early child will avoid the dread fate of becoming An Hero and thus prevent them from joining the 41%, as if transition ever prevented that in the first place.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

I remember as a kid being taught history and reading some of the stuff that happened way back when. I can't help but wonder if teachers are going to explain this sort of phenomenon fifty years from now or just pretend it didn't happen like so many other weird occurrences in history.

Nope. It'll be restricted to niche college electives, like the one I took in college about the history of the tobacco industry and how it manipulated the media, popular culture, human psychology, and regulators in science and the government to make smoking cigarettes into some awesome thing. They'll be taught by professors like the one I had who of course believed The Science of Covid-19 and worshipped the "vaccine" as a holy sacrament, despite his own course teaching the intellectual tools to refute this corporate nonsense. So expect your "history of gender" professors to laugh at early 21st century troonism as Pharma-promoted nonsense but be big into transspecies or whatever is the thing in 2050.

 

[HerrKlicks]

So, soon the MAPs will be back where they belong?
(On the walls that is)

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

I don't buy that cartoons are making kids troon out. That's up there with Doom causing school shootings, Judas Priest causing suicide, and Spongebob making kids gay. Pure nonsense parents spout to take themselves out of the equation.

The more likely reason for all of this is a mixture of wanting authority and self image issues common in teenagers. Rather than treating these self image issues like a normal part of puberty, they are currently being treated like a sign of a severe mental illness. If your teenager starts getting suicidal or cutting themselves because they hate their body, that means they need therapy and maybe medication. Not hormones and puberty blockers.

I blame the educational system and discord groomers who lie about it making them happier.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

You're saying that the gross behavior of the HIV+ community has forced the Antichrist to reconsider the viability of eugenics to address overpopulation? Sweet.

When even the devil looks at your shit and is all "breh"

 

[Next Task]

I don't blame anime, but there's certainly some sort of correlation between it, autism and trooning out. Especially among AGPs.

 

[teriyakiburns]

No transsexual craze in Israel, they didn't allow that shit to go down

Israel is full of troons.