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The childhood transition narrative is crumbling

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The narrative about childhood transition that transgender activists have been selling is slowly crumbling. Last week, Reuters published an investigation into the exponential increase in teenage girls wanting to transition, acknowledging that referrals to gender clinics have been overrepresented by this population. For many, their gender dysphoria is influenced by their peers and social media.

For anyone who’s been following this issue for a while, you may be thinking, "Oh, really?" The piece also described a variety of reasons why a young woman may want to live as a man, including mental health issues besides gender dysphoria, hatred of her body, sexism, and not wanting to be sexualized due to being female.

WHY CAN'T WE LET CHILDREN BE CHILDREN?

Regarding the desire to change one’s body, a recent study published in JAMA Pediatrics found a total of 1,130 double mastectomies were performed on minors between 2016 and 2019, representing a 389% increase. The study also documented relatively high rates of anxiety (about 21%) and depression (about 16%), in addition to gender dysphoria, in these patients. Another analysis, discussed by Reuters, found at least 776 double mastectomies performed in the past three years on patients as young as 13.

In the United States, the sex ratio of gender referrals, once dominated by boys, is nearly 2-to-1 today and dominated by girls. As bans on "gender-affirming care" are being debated in dozens of states, Florida has continued to take an evidence-based stance in combating radical gender theory and protecting children. Following a request from Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo, the state’s Board of Medicine and Board of Osteopathic Medicine decided to prohibit transition-related procedures, including hormones and surgery, for minors earlier this month.

Adolescence is a time characterized by trying on different identities and being impulsive and suggestible. It’s no wonder that friend groups, social media, and online communities have the potential to shape young people’s minds and behaviors in such powerful ways.

A few years ago, the concept of transition regret and detransitioning remained relatively rare. Now, as the number of detransitioners continues to grow, I hope that more policymakers will take heed and listen to their voices. The fact that mainstream news outlets are gradually pulling the reins on the early transitioning movement is an indication that the cultural tide is turning. But concern and support for detransitioners must remain, even after the battle against childhood transition has been won.
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The childhood transition narrative is crumbling

archived 21 Nov 2022 15:19:46 UTC

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Requested by @JosephStalin. Please God, let this be true, for the sake of children everywhere.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

Bingo. The problem with how terfs want to address this is they want to double down on that. And this ideology- which is already rampant in our schools, media, etc- is exactly what triggers the "dysphoria" for a number of kids. A boy who doesn't want to be seen as a vicious beast because of his normal sexual desires can overthink his way into being a "lesbian." A girl who wants to have a boyfriend without being a victim "at risk" for "DV, reproductive coercion, and life ruination!" can overthink her way into being a gayden. This is responsible for far more cases than anyone wants to admit.

This is true. And it's aided by the fact that media puts a happy, smiley face on all alphabet person relationships in order to not be accused of homophobia. The fact that LGBTQ+++++++ relationships are abusive at least as often (I'm being generous) as straight ones is not something that will ever have come up in the literature and screentime they've had experience with.

Gay and lesbian couples are depicted in idealized ways that often do not comport with reality (see: the totally monogamous gay male couples who populate the sitcom landscape), while straight relationships are put through a funhouse mirror to make it appear that they are inherently exploitative. It's the same way that every non-Euro culture has been dramatically emphasized while the very notion that Europeans even have unique or interesting cultures is totally erased, and then kids become "pretendians" or Rachel Dolezals.

"Identity" has become a big buzzword for the libtards but identity formation and being secure in your identity is a key part of what it means to psychologically grow from adolescence to adulthood. They are poisoning this and these are the results.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

No need to guess how LFJ and Lucas will react to that article.

 

[pikachudidnothingwrong]

They are lonely. Their parents gave them life and then went back to work.

So it all really does partly come down to modern ruinous concepts of "capitalism" (specifically so called "market logic") in the end. Destroying the west, leaving open the door to leftism/socialism/communism and delivering society to it and progressivism was only the most clear symptoms. Feminism and progressivism may have caused it but modern capitalism enabled it.

This ^ coming from a capitalist and anti-leftist (socialism/communism)

people have been sold a bill of goods, including gullible liberal parents, that if you don't do "gender-affirming care" up to and including top and bottom surgery on a literal child, said child will become An Hero. The theory being, the earlier the transition, the easier said child will "pass" as the opposite gender later on in life. This is why they call "Gender-affirming care" "lifesaving". They want everybody to believe that every transitioned-early child will avoid the dread fate of becoming An Hero and thus prevent them from joining the 41%, as if transition ever prevented that in the first place.

Yup and OC we know, even from their own studies, that "transition" doesn't help their mental state long, mid or even short term! Also just as likely to an hero as before. Of course that is *true* (severe mental and emotional illness, history of abuse etc) trans people, god only knows the world of hurt and ruin we are opening up for the transtrenders going forward. (probably already making up ~95% of all "trans" today)

This is true. And it's aided by the fact that media puts a happy, smiley face on all alphabet person relationships in order to not be accused of homophobia. The fact that LGBTQ+++++++ relationships are abusive at least as often (I'm being generous) as straight ones is not something that will ever have come up in the literature and screentime they've had experience with.

Gay and lesbian couples are depicted in idealized ways that often do not comport with reality (see: the totally monogamous gay male couples who populate the sitcom landscape), while straight relationships are put through a funhouse mirror to make it appear that they are inherently exploitative. It's the same way that every non-Euro culture has been dramatically emphasized while the very notion that Europeans even have unique or interesting cultures is totally erased, and then kids become "pretendians" or Rachel Dolezals.

"Identity" has become a big buzzword for the libtards but identity formation and being secure in your identity is a key part of what it means to psychologically grow from adolescence to adulthood. They are poisoning this and these are the results.

Indeed.. And the straight hate and relationship doubt has been going on for a long time. Just think back to most movies in the last ~50 years. Whenever a straight couple gets together, if there is any continuation of the story, they will always be back apart again. I used to blame it solely on the inability of modern writers to write 'couples' (a different problem affecting fiction) but started noticing the nihilism with which straight relationships were treated in general in the west. (You could also see the 'one parent' fiction trope being used to serve this end as well...)

 

[Watcher]

We will eventually see in at least a decade or two the media backpedaling from this narrative and claiming it never happened. We're already seeing this with the "end policing" rhetoric from 2020. Now politicians are claiming that they never said that despite documented evidence to the contrary.

It's only a matter of time until they're forced into a position where they have to go from "The only cure to gender dysphoria is transition" to "okay only some children should transition you need a diagnosis" to "transitioning children is a conspiracy theory invented by the right we were always on the side of waiting until you were 18"

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

They're just going to rebrand at best, hide things better, and maybe make surgery available at 18. An improvement but still fucked up.

 

[Ser Prize]

Anyone with half a brain could see this was inevitable. What’s most sickening is that so much of this shit could have been avoided if sensible, qualified people without any self interest had stepped up about fifteen years ago and put the brakes on troons more ridiculous rhetoric before everybody got high on po-mo gender theory, especially when it came to skeevy AGP men and self regarding humanities academics who’ve been the biggest pushers. Instead they got all behind it because LGB orgs draped it in the rainbow flag as a way to continue justifying their existence and income stream once gay legal equality was achieved. Special spicy straights should have been told to fuck off from the get-go, not embraced to artificially boost the numbers. Now here we are, with increasing numbers of normies coming to the conclusion that troons are gross (many oldskool troons are really pissed off by this because again it’s all down to the AGPs and their shitty behaviour), lesbians have been pretty much erased as a group, and gays are getting caught in the backlash. Both are getting increasingly terfy as a result.

Slowest train crash ever.

The LGB created this.

Bingo. The problem with how terfs want to address this is they want to double down on that. And this ideology- which is already rampant in our schools, media, etc- is exactly what triggers the "dysphoria" for a number of kids. A boy who doesn't want to be seen as a vicious beast because of his normal sexual desires can overthink his way into being a "lesbian." A girl who wants to have a boyfriend without being a victim "at risk" for "DV, reproductive coercion, and life ruination!" can overthink her way into being a gayden. This is responsible for far more cases than anyone wants to admit.

Anyone who looks to TERFs for solutions is willfully ignorant of the fact that feminism and LGB pushing is ultimately what caused this via destroying the normal family unit and perverting interpersonal relations.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Bingo. The problem with how terfs want to address this is they want to double down on that. And this ideology- which is already rampant in our schools, media, etc- is exactly what triggers the "dysphoria" for a number of kids. A boy who doesn't want to be seen as a vicious beast because of his normal sexual desires can overthink his way into being a "lesbian." A girl who wants to have a boyfriend without being a victim "at risk" for "DV, reproductive coercion, and life ruination!" can overthink her way into being a gayden. This is responsible for far more cases than anyone wants to admit.

TERFs are the ones who caused this mess, because they're feminists and feminists were the ones saying biology shouldn't matter. Of course, now they say women are defined by their biology, but years ago, they would say that only because you were born with an uterus and ovaries, you still could do anything a man does... well, guess what? having a cock and balls doesn't mean you can't be a woman now! I know a lot of people get mad whenever I mention this, but it's true: they hated biological differences between men and women being the factor of our behaviors, they can't complain now.

So it all really does partly come down to modern ruinous concepts of "capitalism" (specifically so called "market logic") in the end. Destroying the west, leaving open the door to leftism/socialism/communism and delivering society to it and progressivism was only the most clear symptoms. Feminism and progressivism may have caused it but modern capitalism enabled it.

This ^ coming from a capitalist and anti-leftist (socialism/communism)

Consumerism and corporatism rather than capitalism. The problem started when the parents had to leave the household to work for somebody else, rather than working itself. There is a reason why big corpo promotes feminism and abortion: they know workers with families have to ask for days off for their children. I know kids whose parents never attended one single school meeting because they never were allowed by their employers. On average, parents who worked independently were more likely to attend them.

 

[Ser Prize]

TERFs are the ones who caused this mess, because they're feminists and feminists were the ones saying biology shouldn't matter. Of course, now they say women are defined by their biology, but years ago, they would say that only because you were born with an uterus and ovaries, you still could do anything a man does... well, guess what? having a cock and balls doesn't mean you can't be a woman now! I know a lot of people get mad whenever I mention this, but it's true: they hated biological differences between men and women being the factor of our behaviors, they can't complain now.


Consumerism and corporatism rather than capitalism. The problem started when the parents had to leave the household to work for somebody else, rather than working itself. There is a reason why big corpo promotes feminism and abortion: they know workers with families have to ask for days off for their children. I know kids whose parents never attended one single school meeting because they never were allowed by their employers. On average, parents who worked independently were more likely to attend them.

Even the corporatism comes down to feminism. It sucks that both parents aren't home but I imagine having a stay at home mom is way better for kids than two working parents. But they just had to demand and cry their way into male spaces and jobs, doubling the labour pool and destroying any notions of child rearing.

Seriously, I cannot blame feminism enough for all this shit. Wage stagnantion? Feminism. Birth rate cratering? Feminism. Rise of the LGBTQYFUFU shit? Feminism.

 

[Otterly]

It needs to crumble faster. The other factor not mentioned is sexual abuse - it’s not just the usual ‘two months ago I was a kid now I have tits and men are looking at me and I have no idea what to do’ stuff. We all go through that and it’s very strange but you get through it. It’s rape and abuse. A HUGE number of children of both sexes are molested. In girls, this can result in hyper sexualisation but it can also result in complete rejection of the body. Some girls stop eating, some eat too much, some troon out. I wish I could find the article but I read an interview with one girl who had her vagina removed so that nobody could hurt her again.
Grooming, abuse, autism, online culture - it’s all a nasty mix. The real scandals are how many kids are abused, and now how the state is colluding in that abuse by trooning out children. The conclusion is that as a society we would rather mutilate victims than realise just how many nonces we have among us.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

The conclusion is that as a society we would rather mutilate victims than realise just how many nonces we have among us.

NORMALIZING PEDOPHILIA IS THE END GOAL.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

just pretend it didn't happen like so many other weird occurrences in history.

This. This is what will happen. Just like how you didn't learn in school exactly which books the Nazis were burning.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

It needs to crumble faster. The other factor not mentioned is sexual abuse - it’s not just the usual ‘two months ago I was a kid now I have tits and men are looking at me and I have no idea what to do’ stuff. We all go through that and it’s very strange but you get through it. It’s rape and abuse. A HUGE number of children of both sexes are molested. In girls, this can result in hyper sexualisation but it can also result in complete rejection of the body. Some girls stop eating, some eat too much, some troon out. I wish I could find the article but I read an interview with one girl who had her vagina removed so that nobody could hurt her again.
Grooming, abuse, autism, online culture - it’s all a nasty mix. The real scandals are how many kids are abused, and now how the state is colluding in that abuse by trooning out children. The conclusion is that as a society we would rather mutilate victims than realise just how many nonces we have among us.

It's the product of an oversexualized society, rather than direct molestation necessarily. Look at the content our kids are exposed all the time. Look at most female celebrities, either singers or influencers, and check how they act, dress, talk, and behave all around. Of course any girl wouldn't feel comfortable thinking this is how she's supposed to be when she grows up and would think a man it's "better".

 

[The Ugly One]

I have said it before and I will say it again: I am a genuine misogynist and even I don't like how troons treat women. I just want women to shut up and disappear, I don't want them raped and mutilated.

I'm so misogynistic that I want women to be happy, not to cut off their tits and kill themselves.

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

I'm so misogynistic that I want women to be happy, not to cut off their tits and kill themselves.

Women will never be happy. They are joyless materialistic cunts who constantly deny their own instincts while being misled by everyone around them.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

It's the product of an oversexualized society, rather than direct molestation necessarily. Look at the content our kids are exposed all the time.

I've been thinking the same thing.
I absolutely refuse to believe the risible claims from obese Danger Hairs that "One in three girls has been molested!" Utter horseshit.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

I've been thinking the same thing.
I absolutely refuse to believe the risible claims from obese Danger Hairs that "One in three girls has been molested!" Utter horseshit.

Under their terms, any man telling them "you're pretty" can be considered molestation. Ironically, taking young kids, boy and girls, to any of these drag events can be considered as real molestation due to how impertinent and sexually aggressive these performers are.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Under their terms, any man telling them "you're pretty" can be considered molestation. Ironically, taking young kids, boy and girls, to any of these drag events can be considered as real molestation due to how impertinent and sexually aggressive these performers are.

That's a good point you make:

Danger Hairs: "Telling a girl she's pretty is RAPE!"

Also Danger Hairs: "Taking children to Drag shows isn't sexual!"

 

[Snekposter]

NORMALIZING PEDOPHILIA IS THE END GOAL.

Take that clapping shit back to Black Twitter, faggot. No, I don't care that you're being satirical or ironic.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Under their terms, any man telling them "you're pretty" can be considered molestation. Ironically, taking young kids, boy and girls, to any of these drag events can be considered as real molestation due to how impertinent and sexually aggressive these performers are.

Well of course- the people running those events know from personal experience how early exposure to excessively sexual scenarios/materials will goad a kid towards being "queer"- that's the whole point.

 

[The Taco Santo!]

A huge portion of the Western Bungo Stray Dogs fanbase are kids barely out of middle school. This is a seinen manga full of suicide jokes, violence, child abuse, very heavy themes in general, and references to literature kids shouldn't be reading until high school. One of the main antagonists is a pedophile who tried grooming one of the main characters when she was a child. I can instantly tell if someone is a kid the second they try saying that guy isn't actually into prepubescent children.

Nah, they shouldn't be reading that in HS, either.