Joshua Wise & Stephen Boyd The Chris-Chan Extortionists - and the End of Evangelion

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I've really never seen the difference between what you do and what those that came after attempt.
There basically is none. For that specific reason, I only distinguish "funny" and "not funny". My criticism of newer trolling is that it isn't very funny.
Its all poking an exceptional individual to see what he does.
Well ideally, anyway.

The theatrics of Clyde Cash and Liquid made it less about experimenting with Chris' behavior (actually, not at all about experimenting with Chris' behavior) and using him as a comedic actor in a scripted movie. Like getting Robin Williams to voice the comic relief in your disney cartoon.
I've said before I think your theories on Chris's behavior, while rationally presented, are not the gold standard anymore.
I think I still have the most accurate understanding of Chris out there.

But again, I must emphasize this is not because I'm particularly clever. It's because I literally have just listened to more chris material than probably anyone. That's it. To me, Chris has essentially been a podcast (one of several) that I've left running in the background for years.

You can't help but notice some patterns. Chris is incredibly repetitive.

I've described moments where my predictions have failed. My big one was that my "Chris can't be trolled online" prediction depended on Chris not having a reason to return to the internet. I never foresaw Chris' bullshit becoming so financially lucrative, that he'd be constantly exposed to a stream of dipshits wanting to pay for the privilege to whisper sweet nothings in his ear.

That threw me for a loop.
It didn't mesh with your public facing denouncement of trolling. I don't judge people who troll. I've got an issue with inconsistencies.
I don't remember ever denouncing trolling itself. If I did, or if I gave that impression, that was really not my intention.

I'm pretty careful to phrase my critiques about new trolls in terms of why they aren't funny. Because that's really what's important to me.

Personally, I don't like people trolling Chris for various reasons, but that's obviously not an argument to use here, especially not coming from me.

So I focus on things they fucked up.
I also don't entirely agree with the softening of the community. These sadists exist because the old guard enabled it. There would be no reason to bother Chris if we hadn't made Chris an interesting target.
I reckon I don't understand the push to out these new guys when so many people could have equally had their lives ruined were Chris to have had support back then.
I think it's important to consider the stakes are substantially different.

When this all started, Chris was a spry young man in his late twenties. Both his parents were alive. They weren't poor. Chris was fed and taken care of.

It's still mean to fuck with an autistic, but there's a big difference when you're fucking with a vulnerable person in a vulnerable situation (like Chris nowadays), compared to fucking with a vulnerable person (who, at the time everyone believed was full of himself and an asshole) in a very comfortable situation.

I think people expect hearty laughs to justify it nowadays. Because of the issue of hypocrisy, few people are willing to outright say "fucking with Chris is wrong", but it's just been getting more and more pathetic.

Kinda like how activist groups leech sane members when the big goals are accomplished. Women's groups win the vote and equal pay, and then everyone normal goes home and only the crazies are left.
Most of the old trolling could be seen equally as criminal as what these guys are doing.
The fraud angle only adds to the charges.
Extortion. Heh, and you make it sound like it's a small line item tacked onto the end. Like idk, you burglarized someone's house, oh, and here's a parking ticket too.

It's certainly not equally criminal, if you define "equally criminal" in terms of severity of crime. If you only operate on a binary illegal vs illegal, then yeah, I guess they're equally criminal.

When we're talking about old Chris trolling, most of it was questionably legal or in the gray area. Even if something someone did crossed into actual illegal territory, I think the expense of dealing with a small crime across state lines, without money being involved, makes politics a huge factor in whether prosecutions would go forth. It'd take a very politically savvy prosecutor to justify pursuing what could be described as nerdy kids screeching at other nerdy kids online, like on youtube.

I know it was much more than just nerdy kids screeching on youtube, but I think it'd be harder to sell the reality of the situation to a normal person.

When chunks of money come into the picture, especially when you can conjure up images of little old ladies getting fleeced by nigerian princes, I think that makes the politics easier to navigate.
I work in intelligence/cybersecurity. I used to idenfity and build cases on people involved with Chris in my spare cycles to refine my algorithms for identifying people using our LI databases.
I believe it.
Basically proves that Chris will continue to be baited until he's doing something gross in the women's restroom, which will land him on the sex offender's registry. Marvin will come to Chris' defense claiming that he should be absolved of any responsibility to no avail.
You've got a really weird perspective on my opinions on Chris.
Didn't Null say that Rocky wanted to send him to the nuthouse? Talking to a therapist is the first step in qualifying him for admission to a group home. I'm afraid that all of this will get shuffled and jived until Barb dies, and then the whole roof will fall in and it may be too late by that point.
It's a local mental health center. They have like therapy and shit. I think they're rolling out an in-patient treatment center, but it's not long term. It's like for drug addicts or maybe people undergoing mental breakdowns in the moment.

If Chris shows up, act cogent, jabbers at the therapist for a bit, he'll walk right out.
 
Some small things I've learned from this thread,

According to Greene County Sheriff Steven S. Smith you can extort someone and it's their choice to do what you want or not.
Anna is in her early thirties and still in college.

I remember reading the "Reasons against white knighting" article on the cwcki and thinking I would never feel sorry for Chris, things were simpler back then.
 
So...what is the plan/objective here? This is very fucked up.
I think @Ballzymaker94 truly believes that by trolling Chris, he'll get all the lulz and free money off of Chris. Hell I also think he's just a sociopath who wants to ruin someone's life and Chris was just an easy target for him.
 
This is just Bluespike but not funny.
No, Bluespike was never funny, it was fucking retarded and cruel that trolls coaxed a underage kid into having e-sex with a very gullible Chris who didn't know any better. It doesn't help that Bluespike was fucking sadistic enough to get him to shove a medallion up his ass all the while berating and verbally abusing him. These 2 guys are just as bad as Bluespike.
 
I don't remember ever denouncing trolling itself. If I did, or if I gave that impression, that was really not my intention.

Fair. Thanks for clarifying that.

It's certainly not equally criminal, if you define "equally criminal" in terms of severity of crime. If you only operate on a binary illegal vs illegal, then yeah, I guess they're equally criminal.
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When chunks of money come into the picture, especially when you can conjure up images of little old ladies getting fleeced by nigerian princes, I think that makes the politics easier to navigate.

Equally criminal in the sense that an officer could charge an individual with a crime. I was never dealing with the judicial side; build a persona, identify possible suspects, tag evidence, pass to enforcement to get a warrant. Trolling and extortion/fraud would both be felonies in the US since they both were done over the phone/internet. You are absolutely correct in that the state might decide to prosecute one before the other or neither. TBH if the ICC is anything like places in my country even the case of $6,000 is too small. The case would be recorded but probably never pursued because cases like human trafficking, terrorism, pedophilia, and organized financial crime take precedence. I still wouldn't want to risk it hence why I always stuck to correcting ED/CWCki and documenting stuff.
 
Because this is another short film in the CWC Cinematic Universe, so it has something to do with Chris.

Make a thread on these guys, I don't give a shit. I'm just saying there won't be any content besides people getting in a huff because their pet sperg got ripped off. These idiots are just that. Idiots. Where's the laughs? What would you fill the thread with?

You seem to have this notion that having a thread on kiwi farms is some awful punishment that ruins lives. DSP is still chugging and he has an entire sub-forum. Chances are he's even getting his dick wet more often than quite a few kiwi farmers, even if his bad back and gout limits his fucking ability and his Khet is a dead fish in the sack.

Your best hope is that these jackasses get prosecuted and a bunch of random jackholes on a website with a poor reputation isn't going to provide much in the way of admissible evidence. Hearsay isn't admissible.
If you don't care why are you getting in such a huff over it?

As for a thread being punishment, where did I say that? I just happen to think a couple of assclowns like Stephen and Joshua deserve to have their past misdeeds preserved and made known on the net.

Also, haven't given a shit about Chris or his content in a long while. I just think that what happened was a particularly shit thing.
 
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Between Chris growing a backbone on Twitter and her monetizing her brand, it's rather satisfying to see her develop as a person who's just recently following this start to finish.

The only question is if she'll continue to believe CwCville to be a real place. Props to the gang for getting her loose before this sociopathic weaboo managed to make the unfunniest saga even worse.
 
Are you willing to volunteer for life to hold his hand then?

Anything other than putting Chris in the hands of professionals who are being paid to take care of him is just playing with an exceptional individual.
oh my fucking god you moron
Chris can take care of himself just fine, he's not elderly or super-crippled, he just needs:
a.) barb to stop taking his tugboat for her damn bills
b.) removal of incentive to do shit for money on the internet by request

Actually, B might be achieved once barb kicks the bucket (see A) and chris moves elsewhere (either some cheap apartment in the sticks or the projects), as Chris will have no mortgage to pay off, leaving him with plenty of toy money after bills. The patreon is low-risk so he's fine there.

He was doing just fine in the time between getting arrested in 2011 and 14 Branchland Ct burning down (Barb's bullshit aside), he does not need to be locked up or his ass-wiped by an unnecessary nurse.

Bluespike was fucking sadistic enough to get him to shove a medallion up his ass all the while berating and verbally abusing him. These 2 guys are just as bad as Bluespike.
what hitler did was potatoes compared to what chris did

Between Chris growing a backbone on Twitter and her monetizing her brand, it's rather satisfying to see her develop as a person who's just recently following this start to finish.

The only question is if she'll continue to believe CwCville to be a real place. Props to the gang for getting her loose before this sociopathic weaboo managed to make the unfunniest saga even worse.
"her"
 
Between Chris growing a backbone on Twitter and her monetizing her brand, it's rather satisfying to see her develop as a person who's just recently following this start to finish.

Chris getting mouthy on Twitter isn't an indication that he's "growing a backbone". It's just another part of the Chris cycle and something he does from time to time.
 
oh my fucking god you moron
Chris can take care of himself just fine, he's not elderly or super-crippled, he just needs:
a.) barb to stop taking his tugboat for her damn bills
b.) removal of incentive to do shit for money on the internet by request

Actually, B might be achieved once barb kicks the bucket (see A) and chris moves elsewhere (either some cheap apartment in the sticks or the projects), as Chris will have no mortgage to pay off, leaving him with plenty of toy money after bills. The patreon is low-risk so he's fine there.

He was doing just fine in the time between getting arrested in 2011 and 14 Branchland Ct burning down (Barb's bullshit aside), he does not need to be locked up or his ass-wiped by an unnecessary nurse.


what hitler did was potatoes compared to what chris did


"her"

And what is your solution to accomplish B other than having Marvin and Null devote their every waking hour to serving as gatekeepers? If they're down to do the job, great, but they should probably get the proper certifications so that they can paid a salary for what is essentially a full-time job. People who are unintelligent enough to not realize that their make-believe world isn't being nuked via a discord channel are either cared for by family, in a group home situation or killed on the street after driving themselves to homelessness.
 
And what is your solution to accomplish B other than having Marvin and Null devote their every waking hour to serving as gatekeepers? If they're down to do the job, great, but they should probably get the proper certifications so that they can paid a salary for what is essentially a full-time job. People who are unintelligent enough to not realize that their make-believe world isn't being nuked via a discord channel are either cared for by family, in a group home situation or killed on the street after driving themselves to homelessness.
Every waking hour?

More like... 15 minutes a day.
 
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