The Dead Internet Theory

[Maurice Caine]

Food for thought: how many Kiwi Farms accounts are fake? There's almost certainly some bots here.

I could see some A&N posters perhaps, the nature of the board and how threads are laid out makes it plausible.

 

[Sicklick]

The internet has always been centralized. It's true that it used to be more fun and active than it is now (not to mention accomodating and free), but this was bound to happen anyways. Radio is decentralized which is why it is easily the most heavily regulated medium for communications in the US by the FCC. Ham radios are limited to those with licenses, analog television still works but it's illegal to use ever since the switch to digital (you just need to learn van eck phreaking, get an rf modulator from radio shack, a box tv set w/ a crt tube + composite imaging, and a proper antenna) and building spark gap transmitters to send out SOS signals and fm bug transmitters to spy on police cb radios tends to piss off cops. 2-way walkie talkies are p much all they're willing to sell, along with maybe some receivers. Short wave and encrypted short wave (which is actually illegal for any civilian to be playing around with licensed or not) are tightly controlled now.

 

[teriyakiburns]

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This video was on my recommended, so I thought I'd check it out. Some interesting information, but nothing that isn't already available elsewhere, but it had one unique feature: the voice. It's a bot; an AI-generated voice. You can tell by the inflection at the end of sentences, as well as some weird glitches that pop up at certain word boundaries. Now the video content itself is obviously made by a human, but it's got to only be a matter of time before we're seeing entirely botted video content.

Most of the comments feel fake as well. The entire thing is atroturfed to hell and back... I just have to wonder why?

 

[cuddle striker]

Lake Mead: Why the Govt. is Letting it Fail

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This video was on my recommended, so I thought I'd check it out. Some interesting information, but nothing that isn't already available elsewhere, but it had one unique feature: the voice. It's a bot; an AI-generated voice. You can tell by the inflection at the end of sentences, as well as some weird glitches that pop up at certain word boundaries. Now the video content itself is obviously made by a human, but it's got to only be a matter of time before we're seeing entirely botted video content.

Most of the comments feel fake as well. The entire thing is atroturfed to hell and back... I just have to wonder why?

website selling ads, needs content, pays once for the bots instead of again and again for people to make content.

I don't know if that's what this is but it's a possible reason we're seeing it more. the appearance of traffic matters more than whether people even use the site sometimes

 

[Kill a Troon for Pikamee]

I think that it's mostly true.

Ask anyone with some experience in online marketing. It really is very eye-opening, because you realize EVERYTHING you see on the internet outside of extreme right wing nazi terror forums like kiwi farms is an astroturfed ad that someone came up with at a board meeting. Nothing that trends trends organically. If you think that memes like "netflix and chill" or "sir this is wendy's" are organic, they are not. Most of the things that you will see on the internet are spoon fed to you, and there's some product at the end.

The thing is however that really there's not much high tech or fancy tricks involved in making something go viral. You just need to repeat the same thing ad nauseam. The next time you see some extremely stupid comment under a politician's tweet on twitter, copy the content and paste into the search bar. There's 90% chance that you will find the same tweet posted 20-50 times from different accounts. Now if you check these accounts, they will look quite believable at the first sight. There will be a photo of a "real" person as a pfp, and some mention of family, kids, pets, favorite sports team or so on to make it very personal. But if you check the tweets, EVERY single interaction, like and comment made over the span of years will be boosting the impressions of a small group of verified accounts

Another thing you will start noticing if you start paying attention is big accounts completely changing the grift overnight. For the past couple years, it was mostly related to crypto. Out of a sudden, some account starts posting 100% about crypto and nothing else. Most often the tweeting style changes abruptly. Sometimes they don't pay attention and male fitness influencer becomes a female crypto influencer. It's not related only to crypto of course, sometimes politics account will become a diet & lifestyle account or diet & lifestyle account will become a typical meme page

I think that a huge part why they didn't want the Musk deal to go on is that they don't want the investors to realize exactly how bad it is. A lot of people use twitter but they only use it as a newsfeed. All the likes, comments, retweets and so on are massively inflated. To get you an idea how bad it is pick your favorite big grifter account with 40-50K followers and see that they will only have 100 likes on a tweet on average at best, but it will not be uncommon to see accounts with over tens of thousands of followers getting 10 likes

 

[ditto]

I think that a huge part why they didn't want the Musk deal to go on is that they don't want the investors to realize exactly how bad it is.

They're happy for it to go through now because it means a lot of institutional investors will be able to cash out at Musk's expense.

Twitter rewards bot-like behavior from it's users. How the hell can Musk build a working bot detector when it thinks he's a bot and users just act like bots anyway.

 

[Kill a Troon for Pikamee]

users just act like bots anyway.

I think that's the main reason why bots are so widespread and probably impossible to cull. A post menopausal 52 years old woman from Idaho named Shannon who's really into cats and the current thing is indistinguishable from a bot pretending to be a post menopausal 54 years old woman from Wyoming named Betty who's really into cats and the current thing. A retarded libtard could be having conversations with a chatterbot for years, never realizing they're talking to a bot. Would probably consider the bot to be the smartest person they've ever met as well

A pajeet call center worker from New Delhi who's really into crypto is technically indistinguishable from a typical crypto bot. Same goes for the hordes of niggers who use the internet only to reply to tweets of other niggers with reaction gifs of funny niggers, or to reply with unrelated memes under other memes. Most people are barely sentient and the NPC meme is not a meme but that's a topic for another thread

Anyway here's a nice example I've spotted in the wild:

This tweet was so deranged that I just had to search it back and turns out that of course it was posted by 10+ different "people" (only screenshotted top 3). Almost all football (and Ronaldo/Messi specifically) related. So I picked one of these accs at random to take a look, I chose "Rahul".

99.9% of Rahul's content is about football. His comments are never longer than 3-4 words like "messi goat" or "haha ratio penaldo". But if you check Rahul's replies, you'll see that 0.1% of his content is these detailed, multi sentence replies to POTUS, in which the apparent 14 year old muslim kid from the UK is suddenly an US republican who thinks brandon is the best president ever because of his sensible policies regarding covid and ukraine:

So in this case I'm almost certain it's an Agent Smith situation where he would spawn himself into random bystanders. You have this possibly real person but the account is also a part of some democrat party or department of state botnet. How many accounts are like this, where a real person made the account and maybe still uses it but the account is also used by a bot at the same time? Probably millions, and it would probably be impossible to do something about it even if someone had the incentive to do so

 

[seri0us]

I think that's the main reason why bots are so widespread and probably impossible to cull. A post menopausal 52 years old woman from Idaho named Shannon who's really into cats and the current thing is indistinguishable from a bot pretending to be a post menopausal 54 years old woman from Wyoming named Betty who's really into cats and the current thing. A retarded libtard could be having conversations with a chatterbot for years, never realizing they're talking to a bot. Would probably consider the bot to be the smartest person they've ever met as well

A pajeet call center worker from New Delhi who's really into crypto is technically indistinguishable from a typical crypto bot. Same goes for the hordes of niggers who use the internet only to reply to tweets of other niggers with reaction gifs of funny niggers, or to reply with unrelated memes under other memes. Most people are barely sentient and the NPC meme is not a meme but that's a topic for another thread

Anyway here's a nice example I've spotted in the wild:
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This tweet was so deranged that I just had to search it back and turns out that of course it was posted by 10+ different "people" (only screenshotted top 3). Almost all football (and Ronaldo/Messi specifically) related. So I picked one of these accs at random to take a look, I chose "Rahul".

99.9% of Rahul's content is about football. His comments are never longer than 3-4 words like "messi goat" or "haha ratio penaldo". But if you check Rahul's replies, you'll see that 0.1% of his content is these detailed, multi sentence replies to POTUS, in which the apparent 14 year old muslim kid from the UK is suddenly an US republican who thinks brandon is the best president ever because of his sensible policies regarding covid and ukraine:

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So in this case I'm almost certain it's an Agent Smith situation where he would spawn himself into random bystanders. You have this possibly real person but the account is also a part of some democrat party or department of state botnet. How many accounts are like this, where a real person made the account and maybe still uses it but the account is also used by a bot at the same time? Probably millions, and it would probably be impossible to do something about it even if someone had the incentive to do so

I was unable to realise how far and bad this has gotten. Thank you for showing this to us.

 

[Megaton Punch]

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I barely use Twitter at all. I have no account. My usage consists entirely of seeing some 40 IQ opinion from a bluecheck, thinking to myself "not even Twitter could be so retarded as to think this makes sense", checking the replies, and being disappointed in humanity. But even I, with my extremely limited experience with that site, have noticed some very blatant patterns. One you mentioned - sports in bio with a cute pun or something to seem relatable, does literally nothing but retweet leftists - is extremely common. Another one is the middle aged veteran who defected from the right because orange man proved that only the democrats care about bringing the American people together!!!!! You also see a lot of non-Americans who spend all day replying to DNC politicians.

I don't think those are bots, though. At least not all of them. I think they're socks created by the hundreds by some true believer SuperPAC in Portland that somehow has millions of dollars even though nobody has any idea how they're making any money at all. Each employee spends all day hopping from account to account, copy pasting that day's quota of reaction gifs and generic platitudes. And it's all perfectly legal. Bots are unreliable and unsophisticated, but brainwashed zealots can do basically anything.

That "Rahul" account is a combo. His Twitter feed is bot generated, but the suddenly-articulate replies are being supplied by a SuperPAC employee who logs on every so often to make them. Making a Twitter bot that randomly tweets out "go sportsball" is something a freshman could do, but making one that reliably sounds like a human being without relying on copy-pasting from the rest of the site is much more difficult.

 

[BootlegPopeye]

So in this case I'm almost certain it's an Agent Smith situation where he would spawn himself into random bystanders. You have this possibly real person but the account is also a part of some democrat party or department of state botnet. How many accounts are like this, where a real person made the account and maybe still uses it but the account is also used by a bot at the same time? Probably millions, and it would probably be impossible to do something about it even if someone had the incentive to do so

I think some of the accounts like this are, as you say, combination real/bot accounts maybe to avoid being pegged as pure bot and then banned? A patina of real human sounding content and generic normie interests like sportsball tweets with the occasional bot blast keeps them under the radar.

Where these accounts and whoever is running them fuck up, is that the detailed and very specifically worded replies are almost always repeated by other similar partial bot accounts. That's how you found him in the first place, after all.

 

[Kill a Troon for Pikamee]

That "Rahul" account is a combo. His Twitter feed is bot generated, but the suddenly-articulate replies are being supplied by a SuperPAC employee who logs on every so often to make them. Making a Twitter bot that randomly tweets out "go sportsball" is something a freshman could do, but making one that reliably sounds like a human being without relying on copy-pasting from the rest of the site is much more difficult.

Could be, but I checked his sports replies and they look quite organic. Like someone tweeted "player XYZ is inexperienced" and Rahul replied "I experienced your mom tonight lol". This makes me think that millions of brown football fans log in with their twitter to some Messi t-shirt giveaway or something like that and are forever drafted into the US department of state propaganda war

 

[Gig Bucking Fun]

I think that's the main reason why bots are so widespread and probably impossible to cull. A post menopausal 52 years old woman from Idaho named Shannon who's really into cats and the current thing is indistinguishable from a bot pretending to be a post menopausal 54 years old woman from Wyoming named Betty who's really into cats and the current thing. A retarded libtard could be having conversations with a chatterbot for years, never realizing they're talking to a bot. Would probably consider the bot to be the smartest person they've ever met as well

A pajeet call center worker from New Delhi who's really into crypto is technically indistinguishable from a typical crypto bot. Same goes for the hordes of niggers who use the internet only to reply to tweets of other niggers with reaction gifs of funny niggers, or to reply with unrelated memes under other memes. Most people are barely sentient and the NPC meme is not a meme but that's a topic for another thread

Anyway here's a nice example I've spotted in the wild:
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This tweet was so deranged that I just had to search it back and turns out that of course it was posted by 10+ different "people" (only screenshotted top 3). Almost all football (and Ronaldo/Messi specifically) related. So I picked one of these accs at random to take a look, I chose "Rahul".

99.9% of Rahul's content is about football. His comments are never longer than 3-4 words like "messi goat" or "haha ratio penaldo". But if you check Rahul's replies, you'll see that 0.1% of his content is these detailed, multi sentence replies to POTUS, in which the apparent 14 year old muslim kid from the UK is suddenly an US republican who thinks brandon is the best president ever because of his sensible policies regarding covid and ukraine:

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So in this case I'm almost certain it's an Agent Smith situation where he would spawn himself into random bystanders. You have this possibly real person but the account is also a part of some democrat party or department of state botnet. How many accounts are like this, where a real person made the account and maybe still uses it but the account is also used by a bot at the same time? Probably millions, and it would probably be impossible to do something about it even if someone had the incentive to do so

This is extremely interesting. It always seemed kinda funky how Twitter has so many big accounts with little-to-no interaction. I wouldn’t be surprised, though, if a sizable portion of “bots” with high follower counts are really just aspiring influencers buying their way to high numbers.

Still, what you’ve shown is eye-opening, to say the least. I’d like to ask you who you think is behind it?

 

[Kill a Troon for Pikamee]

This is extremely interesting. It always seemed kinda funky how Twitter has so many big accounts with little-to-no interaction. I wouldn’t be surprised, though, if a sizable portion of “bots” with high follower counts are really just aspiring influencers buying their way to high numbers.

Still, what you’ve shown is eye-opening, to say the least. I’d like to ask you who you think is behind it?

I don't believe in a single, centralized bot conspiracy. It is simply hundreds or thousands of PR agencies selling bots. You can buy 100 twitter followers for about $2. You can buy 10,000 for $200. It's really cheap. For amateur grifters who want to make beer money selling substack/podstack/gumroad it's not a problem to buy at least 1,000 followers a month. This is why you have numerous grifters with 40-50k followers with an account that exist for like 6 months. What I've noticed is for example in the diet/fitness niche there is a ton of grifters who have the same follower number within 40-50k. I've literally spotted dozens of accounts having the same 47k followers number which I think can give an idea of a number of bots per niche. So if some poor brown teenager with a patrick bateman pfp can afford a 50k twitter account, obviously the US department of state can afford much, much more

It's really the same on the small scale and big scale. For example there's this acc called "Seed Oil Disrespecter", a typical grifter posting typical diet/fitness shit. This account was doxxed some time ago as a marketing account started by a company producing some type of synthetic cooking oil. They have successfully made "seed oils" into a meme within the "fitness community", and now have accounts on every social media, complete with a merchandise line and whatnot. With minimum investment in followers and retweets, you can quickly create viral memes that will take on their own life. And remember that this was all done by a single micro startup

Now remember that in February as the war in ukraine started, there were news of hundreds of PR agencies announcing they will now work for ukraine for free. This means that they are paid by someone to work for ukraine for free. Then take something even bigger like covid. You have every big news outlet and every small PR agency in the world pushing the same agenda. You have MILLIONS of bots repeating your lines from day one. Within a week, you will have hundreds of millions of real people around the world repeating what the bots say not only online but in real life to their friends and loved ones as well, being indistinguishable from the bots

tl;dr all social media platforms have like 90% bots because their main raison d'etre is manipulating the noosphere and astroturfing whatever current issue needs to be astroturfed at the moment. Bots are vitally needed so that everything that you see streamed to you as "reality" remains fully prefabricated and controlled

 

[Gig Bucking Fun]

I don't believe in a single, centralized bot conspiracy. It is simply hundreds or thousands of PR agencies selling bots. You can buy 100 twitter followers for about $2. You can buy 10,000 for $200. It's really cheap. For amateur grifters who want to make beer money selling substack/podstack/gumroad it's not a problem to buy at least 1,000 followers a month. This is why you have numerous grifters with 40-50k followers with an account that exist for like 6 months. What I've noticed is for example in the diet/fitness niche there is a ton of grifters who have the same follower number within 40-50k. I've literally spotted dozens of accounts having the same 47k followers number which I think can give an idea of a number of bots per niche. So if some poor brown teenager with a patrick bateman pfp can afford a 50k twitter account, obviously the US department of state can afford much, much more

It's really the same on the small scale and big scale. For example there's this acc called "Seed Oil Disrespecter", a typical grifter posting typical diet/fitness shit. This account was doxxed some time ago as a marketing account started by a company producing some type of synthetic cooking oil. They have successfully made "seed oils" into a meme within the "fitness community", and now have accounts on every social media, complete with a merchandise line and whatnot. With minimum investment in followers and retweets, you can quickly create viral memes that will take on their own life. And remember that this was all done by a single micro startup

Now remember that in February as the war in ukraine started, there were news of hundreds of PR agencies announcing they will now work for ukraine for free. This means that they are paid by someone to work for ukraine for free. Then take something even bigger like covid. You have every big news outlet and every small PR agency in the world pushing the same agenda. You have MILLIONS of bots repeating your lines from day one. Within a week, you will have hundreds of millions of real people around the world repeating what the bots say not only online but in real life to their friends and loved ones as well, being indistinguishable from the bots

tl;dr all social media platforms have like 90% bots because their main raison d'etre is manipulating the noosphere and astroturfing whatever current issue needs to be astroturfed at the moment. Bots are vitally needed so that everything that you see streamed to you as "reality" remains fully prefabricated and controlled

On this subject, I found a video that really convinced me most of the internet is retarded enough to fall for the social media ad-turned-content meme.

This is clearly an ad for some company called “InvisaWear”. They posted this ad and played it off as some TikToker recounting her story and indirectly promoting their product.

The entire comment section is people taking the bait and believing the story, hook, line and sinker. The fact that what is essentially a corporate botnet can convince actual people of an agenda parroted by an algorithm is believable.

 

[seri0us]

On this subject, I found a video that really convinced me most of the internet is retarded enough to fall for the social media ad-turned-content meme.

This is clearly an ad for some company called “InvisaWear”. They posted this ad and played it off as some TikToker recounting her story and indirectly promoting their product.

The entire comment section is people taking the bait and believing the story, hook, line and sinker. The fact that what is essentially a corporate botnet can convince actual people of an agenda parroted by an algorithm is believable.

just get a weapon lole

 

[Gig Bucking Fun]

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As a side-note, this is a pretty retarded product. It’s so niche and situational.

The only time this would genuinely be effective is in the case where you realize you’re going out with a potential rapist and you’re threatened to the point where you feel you need to let someone know, but not to the point where you’d pull out your phone to call someone/police, or just scream for help.

I guess the industry for women’s security products has a gullible market. Either that or the likes on the comments are just botted, which I wouldn’t put past them.

 

[teriyakiburns]

They have successfully made "seed oils" into a meme within the "fitness community", and now have accounts on every social media, complete with a merchandise line and whatnot.

You'll find they're riding the meme, rather than being the source of it. Scepticism about the claimed health benefits of seed oils has been growing since the mid 2010s at the very least.

 

[Kill a Troon for Pikamee]

You'll find they're riding the meme, rather than being the source of it. Scepticism about the claimed health benefits of seed oils has been growing since the mid 2010s at the very least.

Vegetable oils are objectively very unhealthy, I'm not saying they invented this particular medical fact. But in marketing you will always rebrand a known thing to make it look new and dominate the discourse. It's like when you change "Kiev" to "Kyiv" (and then make the algorithms promote content with "Kyiv" and demote content with "Kiev"). Very simple and effective. Before that particular marketing campaign astroturfed the "seed oils" keyword the most popular term was PUFAs (polyunsaturated fats), because that's the term you would find in actual medical literature

This is clearly an ad for some company called “InvisaWear”. They posted this ad and played it off as some TikToker recounting her story and indirectly promoting their product.

It is now standard for marketing content to be posted as organic news stories. How many news stories about "son convinces mom to make onlyfans", "woman quits job and becomes onlyfans millionaire" have you seen? Bonus points if it's framed in a way that will make gullible conservatives repost it to signal how outraged they are. Even here on kf you have dozens of onlyfans threads in Articles & News of what is people basically discussing ads without even realizing it.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

It is now standard for marketing content to be posted as organic news stories

This has a Term, it's called Native Advertising.

 

[Kill a Troon for Pikamee]

Interesting, first time that I've seen one of these pro-Biden bots flagged by twitter as a bot. Of course, this didn't stop 10 retards to try debating with it