The Dead Internet Theory

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Carlos Weston Chantor said:
I think that it's mostly true.

Ask anyone with some experience in online marketing. It really is very eye-opening, because you realize EVERYTHING you see on the internet outside of extreme right wing nazi terror forums like kiwi farms is an astroturfed ad that someone came up with at a board meeting. Nothing that trends trends organically. If you think that memes like "netflix and chill" or "sir this is wendy's" are organic, they are not. Most of the things that you will see on the internet are spoon fed to you, and there's some product at the end.
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I think this is the reason why you see accounts on YT that aren't anything special, but still get corporate sponsored products and heaps of views. Companies definitely choose who gets to be an "influencer".
 
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hope picture attached, like, this a fake yt stream with 115k "viewers", started 6 minutes ago with no comments, just playing back an old mcgregor interview. Shows you its easy to get an infinite amount, and all verification bullshit social media has nowadays, like requiring a phone number is just to get more info out of real people
 

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So to revive this topic a bit, a new tool from OpenAI called ChatGPT has been causing chaos recently. It's good at basic programming, isn't very woke, and is very, very good at conversation and writing to the point it's basically indistinguishable from a human in many cases.

Stack overflow has had such an issue with it that they've had to implement a policy to at least temporarily ban its use: https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/421831/temporary-policy-chatgpt-is-banned

If SO is having these issues, you can be sure more sites are right now. HN has been flooded with ChatGPT created content over the last few days.

We are on the cusp of user created content being dead once and for all and I don't think it's dooming to say that at this point.
 
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One of the reasons the push for centralized content platforms (Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, Reddit) and aggressive censorship has gone into overdrive over the past few years is because major social media sites and centralized platforms offer an extensive dataset with feedback mechanisms built-in that can be curated through manual censorship to generate a continously expanding dataset to train neural network models on. GPT-3 and other natural language transformer driven models already integrate these sites into their training dataset repositories but to completely block any wrongthink the base data has to be adjusted too.
 
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Catler said:
We are on the cusp of user created content being dead once and for all and I don't think it's dooming to say that at this point.
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I only wonder how long it will take until big tech will try to become gatekeepers of the AI tech and end users will be relegated to only fill the consumer role. They won't even be prompt smiths, as quite a few AIs record prompts and selected results, probably in part to automate that the process as much as possible.
Shutting down open source and free projects would not be that hard. Suing projects like Stable Diffusion over the sensitive image data the AI was trained on or for copyright breaches would be easy. Even if court would rule in favor of these projects, they would be swamped by legal fees. Fees that giants like Google can easily afford in case someone were to sue them.
Remember how internet went from a wild west to essentially being controlled by a handful of large corporations?

This is the darkest scenario. I think it's worthwhile to bring it up given how many people dismiss negative consequences AIs might have. Hopefully things won't get too grim.
 
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I only wonder how long it will take until big tech will try to become gatekeepers
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They do already but the field is too quickly evolving at this point. Eventually politics will catch on that AI could be used to do something that escaped them since the birth of the internet - get full control over the entire discourse online. Be very wary if a politician talks about "ethical AI", what he really means is "AI for me but not for thee".
 
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AmpleApricots said:
They do already but the field is too quickly evolving at this point. Eventually politics will catch on that AI could be used to do something that escaped them since the birth of the internet - get full control over the entire discourse online. Be very wary if a politician talks about "ethical AI", what he really means is "AI for me but not for thee".
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remember shareblue or whatever shill shit that was
 
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hate to bump this but i think we are there!

My fat fingers just got me to the youtubeshorts page and i was fascinated. somebody is using AI to make scripts from random videos, using an AI voice to read it.
the whole comment section is full of bots, we are weeks away from automatic clickbait...
 
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Does anybody else feel like numbers don't add up sometimes? Like 4chan is supposedly this famous website with millions of views daily but so many threads on even popular boards are slow? And like 40% full of bots? Why does it seem like only half a dozen people ever comment on some boards? Is it really that dead?
Does it really make sense in a population of 7 billion globally? Even if less then half of them are online? Just high thoughts.
 
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melty said:
Does anybody else feel like numbers don't add up sometimes? Like 4chan is supposedly this famous website with millions of views daily but so many threads on even popular boards are slow? And like 40% full of bots? Why does it seem like only half a dozen people ever comment on some boards? Is it really that dead?
Does it really make sense in a population of 7 billion globally? Even if less then half of them are online? Just high thoughts.
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4chan has a LOT of lurkers who never post, newfags who are scared to post, and banned IPs who can't post. There's also a lot of faggots who agenda-post the same thing every day/hour/etc. Slow boards are usually the same ~250 people. It also depends on the time of day. Out of those 7 billion people (isn't it 8 billion now?), how many are channers though? How many speak English? How many of them are terminally online?

Not saying I disagree with you but you might have your numbers a bit skewed. It's likely on purpose too because more users looks better to advertisers. A lot of them are mobilefags too and unique-IPs are probably skewed more than anything.
 
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