The Elder Scrolls

ProblematicUser420 said:
I'm not the one furiously looking through wiki's going over every long winded explanation for every change to tell a guy ES lore is totally not wishy washy.
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You’re the one still getting mad that I posted the widely available lore and that you’re getting it wrong because you can’t even open a webpage.
 
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xXx: State of the Union said:
None of you are talking about ESO, as far as I can tell.

You really need to get on your meds.
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You’re handing out the puzzle pieces like pills though. I’m just saying ESO sucked because of the lore, with a lot of it being established too despite how “loose” Problem is trying to claim it is. They have explanations for it in game but ESO doesn’t even make sense when trying to fit it all together.
 
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Shidoen said:
You’re handing out the puzzle pieces like pills though.
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Because you're acting like an autismo faggot over gay ES lore that is only in books and shit like 1% of players even read.

"The game sucks because it didn't follow the lore!" as if it's a fucking book series where any of it fucking matters and not some drugged up fever dream and a bunch of ass pulls to add flavor to "go to cave and kill/collect thing" quests.

Feel free to link me to some gay ass reddit or discord server though. That will surely help.
 
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xXx: State of the Union said:
Because you're acting like an autismo faggot over gay ES lore that is only in books and shit like 1% of players even read.

"The game sucks because it didn't follow the lore!" as if it's a fucking book series where any of it fucking matters.
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This is an Elder Scrolls thread, I’m talking about Elder Scrolls, if you don’t care about the lore that’s you but the lore is neat and it still relates to Elder Scrolls. Calling me autistic when you’re acting goofy.
 
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Jesus Christ, I take a shit and come back to this.

Why do I even come to the games forum anymore?

Shidoen said:
You’re the one still getting mad that I posted the widely available lore and that you’re getting it wrong because you can’t even open a webpage.
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I haven't gotten anything wrong, though? Outside of calling the Pantheon change a retcon and not just a weird change. Tiber Septim wasn't considered a "god" until Morrowind, Alduin was literally the nordic representation of Akatosh in the same way Kyne was Kynareth and Stuhn was Stendarr until they added books to Skyrim to say that the Nords viewed them as different. Arena had a jungle Cyrodil and then it became a forest. You posting the explanations that came after /with the changes doesn't make me "wrong", because my stance was never that there wasn't an explanation. (also, you're going to have to dig deeper than wiki's if you're new to the franchise, as wiki's are updated as the games go on)

My stance has literally been that Bethesdas changes to lore are lazy and that they make changes on a whim (play it loose), not that it doesn't exist. My first post was the main complaints about ESO seemed to be from lorefags, and you went on to say lore shouldn't be a focus in ESO because of it's constant changing nature which flies in the face of your original "lore is important" point.

I really don't get what you're even mad about other than the fact I'm not sucking Bethesdas dick.
 
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ProblematicUser420 said:
Jesus Christ, I take a shit and come back to this.

Why do I even come to the games forum anymore?


I haven't gotten anything wrong, though? Outside of calling the Pantheon change a retcon and not just a weird change. Tiber Septim wasn't considered a "god" until Morrowind, Alduin was literally the nordic representation of Akatosh in the same way Kyne was Kynareth and Stuhn was Stendarr until they added books to Skyrim to say that the Nords viewed them as different. Arena had a jungle Cyrodil and then it became a forest. You posting the explanations that came after /with the changes doesn't make me "wrong", because my stance was never that there wasn't an explanation. (also, you're going to have to dig deeper than wiki's if you're new to the franchise, as wiki's are updated as the games go on)

My stance has literally been that Bethesdas changes to lore are lazy and that they make changes on a whim (play it loose), not that it doesn't exist. My first post was the main complaints about ESO seemed to be from lorefags, and you went on to say lore shouldn't be a focus in ESO because of it's constant changing nature which flies in the face of your original "lore is important" point.

I really don't get what you're even mad about other than the fact I'm not sucking Bethesdas dick.
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YOU said lore wasn’t important in ESO, I argued it was since it was the 2nd era with a lot of stuff to work with. With Kyne being the Nordic pantheon and Skyrim switching to the Imperial pantheon, it’s no wonder why they adopted Kynareth. The gods are technically different due to culture like irl, you have two different views of Tiber Septim as the emperor from both Skyrim and Cyrodiil, one being the nord hero and the other being the imperial hero. The gods work the same way in that regard Kyne being the og rendition of the modern day imperial Kynareth. The imperial stories adapted the og Kyne to fit in their culture but the Nords still have their ancient stories of old Kyne while still using the modern name and lore of Kynareth.
 
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So Elder Scroll lore is the same as real world lore with all kinds of differences and not one simple easy to digest story, shit gets changed over time just like in real world legends and mythologies
 
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draggs said:
So Elder Scroll lore is the same as real world lore with all kinds of differences and not one simple easy to digest story
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The funny thing is that the changes to the lore have made the main ES games storylines easier and easier to digest, at least since Oblivion.

It's convoluted lore to make the games presentation easier/more palatable.

It's why we will never see a another main ES game set in Black Marsh or the Elven lands, I'm pretty sure.
 
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