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My main team in FF8 is Rinoa with Quistis.
  • I think Irvin is a fag.
  • Zell is too good for this game sadly. I can't have 2 physical attackers in my comps.
  • Selphie had that annoying explosive personality. Still good character but not for me.
I builded Rinoa as a magic-focused character with stats-induced. Quistis is the defensive one.
 
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This guy is the best final fantasy character ever just randomly dropping that.

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Prophetic Spirit said:
My main team in FF8 is Rinoa with Quistis.
  • I think Irvin is a fag.
  • Zell is too good for this game sadly. I can't have 2 physical attackers in my comps.
  • Selphie had that annoying explosive personality. Still good character but not for me.
I builded Rinoa as a magic-focused character with stats-induced. Quistis is the defensive one.
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It really doesn't get better for Irvine, FF8 dropped the ball too hard on the party members.
I ran with a similar lineup but used Zell as the defensive/utility one instead, his limit break is fun and can reach an insane damage output with some support.
 
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Prophetic Spirit said:
Nah, imagine saying that non-ironically.
FF7 is good as it is. Remake/Rebirth thought...
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Ah yes, the gold saucer dates which are only in the Remakes… This thread is so smart.

In general thread-level news, the Rebirth Ultimania came out and reaffirmed that, just like in the OG, the Aerith date is the canon narrative.

And, as for the story, multiple timelines confirmed. Aerith’s fate is technically unknown (whatever that means). Cloud can now see ripples in the timeline (which is why he can still see Aerith I guess, I thought he was in denial). But as always its ambiguous and too complex for me to really try and put it down definitively.

What it all means is an excuse to make changes and to adjust character arcs very easily.
 
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Berrakh said:
Ah yes, the gold saucer dates which are only in the Remakes… This thread is so smart.

In general thread-level news, the Rebirth Ultimania came out and reaffirmed that, just like in the OG, the Aerith date is the canon narrative.

And, as for the story, multiple timelines confirmed. Aerith’s fate is technically unknown (whatever that means). Cloud can now see ripples in the timeline (which is why he can still see Aerith I guess, I thought he was in denial). But as always its ambiguous and too complex for me to really try and put it down definitively.

What it all means is an excuse to make changes and to adjust character arcs very easily.
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Sounds like they may replace Cloud's whole identity crisis with figuring out which reality is which.
 
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Berrakh said:
And, as for the story, multiple timelines confirmed. Aerith’s fate is technically unknown (whatever that means). Cloud can now see ripples in the timeline (which is why he can still see Aerith I guess, I thought he was in denial). But as always its ambiguous and too complex for me to really try and put it down definitively.

What it all means is an excuse to make changes and to adjust character arcs very easily.
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I hate multi-verse / alternate timeline slop. It's almost always been used as a crutch for bad writing.
Dead character? Pull another version of them from another timeline. Need a solution to a problem? Grab it from a universe that already figured it out. Need nostalgia? Copy and paste fan favorite characters/things with minor alterations. Need stakes? Have something in the multiverse get destroyed (there's infinite copies of it, just don't bring that up).

The whispers in the first remake were enough to show that Square can't do anything compelling with this stuff and they doubled down on it in rebirth, so I fully expect some form of narrative suicide in the final act of the next game. At best it'll just be a mediocre retelling of the old game.
 
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Rebirth got me to play the OG FF7, looking back I get why people hate the multiverse aspect of the remakes. I still enjoyed Rebirth though and can't wait for the Great Glacier in Part 3. I want to see how they'll do the snowboarding minigame.

Outside of FF7, I started playing some other Final Fantasys, I've yet to play the two FF16 DLCs but I just started playing FF15. I'm early in the game but it's kind of relaxing driving on the road.
 
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Whirus said:
Rebirth got me to play the OG FF7, looking back I get why people hate the multiverse aspect of the remakes. I still enjoyed Rebirth though and can't wait for the Great Glacier in Part 3. I want to see how they'll do the snowboarding minigame.

Outside of FF7, I started playing some other Final Fantasys, I've yet to play the two FF16 DLCs but I just started playing FF15. I'm early in the game but it's kind of relaxing driving on the road.
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I've always thought people were overly harsh with FF15. I played it Day 1 on the PS4, and while the loading times were horrific, the free roam was super fun, and the combat was varied so long as you actually progressed through getting the different Royal Arms so you got the different combat styles. Good fishing mini-game too. Story wasn't the best, and I could tell at the time they carved out the side stories for DLC, but I finished it with no issue whatsoever. Meanwhile, FF12 and FF13 are so boring with such bad combat, I can't bring myself to get more than 1 or 2 hours into them, let alone finish them.
 
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Resunoit said:
FFXV was my first final fantasy so I do have a big soft spot for it, but even I can admit there are much better final fantasy games and Ardyn and the bros were the only real good aspects of that game.
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Oh sure; FF15 wasn't my first and it's not even in my top five favorite Final Fantasies (9, 7, 5, 4, 6, in that order). I just disagree with people lumping it in with the later slop games (10-2, 12, 13, 13-2, 13-LR) when it actually did something novel and had fun characters, it just suffered from mediocre gameplay.
 
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hello it's me again and i have decided that here would be the place i would plant my 5000TH shitPOST. yay me!

alright, so i finally got to the point in ffvii: remake where i can do the 'top secrets' vr fight where you face a gauntlet of 4 (or 5) summons, followed by what i can only assume is supposed to be a secret megaboss called the pride & joy prototype (or something like that, cbf to look it up). looked up some strategies because i suck at life and here's my results. btw i used cloud, tifa, and barret, with barret(!) acting as my main healer:

shiva: cast firaga to pressure, whale on her with tifa until staggered, cast stop, you win!

fat chocobo: just whale on him, stagger him, whale on him more, avoid the tonberries, revive when needed. it's not like these fights are timed so you may as well take your time.

leviathan: easy as long as you fight her at close range, as she has more long-range attacks than short-range attacks that may miss you if you're standing too close to her.

bahamut / ifrit: idk, mang, just try not to suck at video games. he'll charge up megaflare with a countdown of 5 throughout the battle, there is a high chance it will kill your party unless well-prepared. can knock the counter down to 1 if you stagger him. at less than half health he will summon ifrit, who can safely be ignored if you have a maxed out elemental + fire materia equipped, so he'll just heal you every time he hits you.

pride & joy prototype: equip a character with a maxed out synergy + lightning materia, damage the prototype enough that its legs become targetable, lock onto either one of the legs, use abilities from the two characters NOT equipped with synergy to attack single leg which causes the character with the synergy materia to cast thunder (which uses no mp) every single time another character uses an ability, so just whale on the leg until it's crippled, causing the prototype to fall to the ground and be unable to attack, rise and repeat.

fucking disappointing, tbh. bahamut was harder than the supposed 'megaboss'. however these fights did demonstrate that the synergy materia is op as fuck. also i got an item whose name i cbf to look up, but the character you equip it to starts battle with a full limit break gauge and the gauge passively fills throughout the battle.

-insert many autism puzzle pieces here-
 
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TerranTony98 said:
I hate multi-verse / alternate timeline slop. It's almost always been used as a crutch for bad writing.
Dead character? Pull another version of them from another timeline. Need a solution to a problem? Grab it from a universe that already figured it out. Need nostalgia? Copy and paste fan favorite characters/things with minor alterations. Need stakes? Have something in the multiverse get destroyed (there's infinite copies of it, just don't bring that up).

The whispers in the first remake were enough to show that Square can't do anything compelling with this stuff and they doubled down on it in rebirth, so I fully expect some form of narrative suicide in the final act of the next game. At best it'll just be a mediocre retelling of the old game.
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I agree but this franchise was so badly flanderized in just the one timeline that it basically was a multiverse spanning bout of mediocrity. Like it's actually weirder to say AC is based on OG than to say the Remakes are.
 
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