The Final Fantasy Thread

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ToroidalBoat said:
I haven't played any of the numbered games ("Final Fantasy #") after 6, so I don't know much about her, other than a spoiler.

In Bravely Default, Ouroboros says the Celestial Realm is technologically advanced, free from strife, and a "boring prison" - that they want to "spice up" with evil.
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the tl;dr is she's the main heroine and she's the last member of an Ancient Race. Magical Girl Martyr take one. Or take two if we count Terra. Said race was almost wiped out by the arrival of Jenova, who is Sephiroth's "mother" for theming's sake. She dies praying to Holy to undo Sephiroth's Meteor and the climactic final battle is done to prevent him from stopping Holy's manifestation. So the arbitrary magical wave that saves the world has some bearing to your party and you the player. Then she becomes a sort of demigod, guardian angel. Which has now sent her own memories back in time to her old self and that's the new plot for the Remake.

She was also the sole love interest originally. Then they rewrote the game with Tifa in it to have the infamous love triangle. Then they sort of brought Aerith's old bf back into continuity. Originally he was just a placeholder with no real importance because they needed someone to "be" Cloud in flashbacks and also provide a past connection to Aerith that Sephiroth originally did. So her role in that regard has changed a lot over the years. In the original game she's the one Cloud receives almost all of his initial character development with though because there wasn't enough time to really pad things out.
Which is why I find the slower pace between them a little strange if they're just gonna kill her again. Playing the original again you can totally see they wanted to bias the player into emotionally investing into her. Which worked.
 
How's the new Trials of Mana? I was originally thinking of a Charlie's Angels team...but I heard if I have Reisz to use Charlotte and Hawkeye for story or something? Unfortunately I heard Angela sucks gameplay wise but her storyline is good
 
Geena Davis said:
How's the new Trials of Mana? I was originally thinking of a Charlie's Angels team...but I heard if I have Reisz to use Charlotte and Hawkeye for story or something? Unfortunately I heard Angela sucks gameplay wise but her storyline is good
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I don't know about sucks. Her elemental coverage is pretty good for before you get other stuff (and general use), and I'd rate her late game stuff great for nuking mobs. It depends which class path you go down, but I would agree she's less useful until you get multi-enemy spells.

If you're not sure who to choose, bear in mind that there's three different paths which are based on the main character you choose- for example, Charlotte and Kevin have the same bosses pretty much, but the story will be focused differently.

Charlotte is pretty useful for early healing whichever path you choose (and is one of the earliest joining characters if you choose her) , but for her late game it depends on your other members. Hawkeye can also be good at debuffs, so if you go debuff with him you might not want to make her a Necromancer (though Curse is awesome).
 
Geena Davis said:
I heard if I have Reisz to use Charlotte and Hawkeye for story or something?
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There are three overall arcs in the game's story that depend on who you pick as you first character, paired off by Duran/Angela, Reisz/Hawkeye, and Kevin/Charlotte. If you use one of the pair and have the other one (I think) as your second choice, you'll get some extended scenes and extra dialogue. It's not strictly necessary, and the won't fire off if you have one of those pairs in your party but isn't the main (my first run was Hawkeye/Kevin/Charlotte, and since neither of them were the 'main' that run, the extra Kevin/Charlotte stuff never fired off).
 
MightyBiteySnake said:
Replaying Tactics Advanced for the first time in a while. Very good game if not a bit of a time sink
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After several playthroughs it's very easy to cheese a lot of it, but I like coming up with purposely bizarre but fun setups like the Mog Attack-spamming Gunner squad that makes all those archer comps the game throws at you weep.
 
Geena Davis said:
How's the new Trials of Mana? I was originally thinking of a Charlie's Angels team...but I heard if I have Reisz to use Charlotte and Hawkeye for story or something? Unfortunately I heard Angela sucks gameplay wise but her storyline is good
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Angela wrecks shit with AOE. Your progress transfers over to each consecutive run so getting end game angela for your next two runs has her just decimate every single encounter.

You don't even need healing at that point, nothing survives long enough to do damage to you, even the post game bosses go down like a ton of bricks.

It's a very good game and had a lot of care go into it, it felt like a remaster of a PS2 RPG even though it was originally an SNES game.
 
Cantercoin said:
Possibly dumb question:What's the best final fantasy to start out with if you want to get into the series?
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Honestly, it depends on what kind of setting or genre you're most into.

If you like old-school D&D-inspired medieval fantasy, then either FF1 or FF4.

You want something more sci-fi and a classic? FF7

Personally, I enjoy FF15 unironically.
 
Cantercoin said:
Possibly dumb question:What's the best final fantasy to start out with if you want to get into the series?
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It's probably clichéd to say this, but I think the original FFVII is probably the best place to start. The materia system is probably the best magic system in any Final Fantasy, and the story still moves me to this day.
 
Cantercoin said:
Possibly dumb question:What's the best final fantasy to start out with if you want to get into the series?
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There are multiple good entries if you want to dive in. IV's a bit dated in terms of storytelling and depth, but it's the first game in the series that tries to tell an epic story, and it's the one that introduced the ATB combat system associated with the series' golden years. VI and VII are the fan favorites, you can't go wrong with either of them. IX's excellent, though it's stuffed with easter eggs and subtle references to previous games. X's also a personal favorite, though how much you enjoy it will depend on your tolerance of both the voice acting and the protagonist (I don't mind him personally, but a lot of people hate his guts).
 
MoffAlbert said:
It's probably clichéd to say this, but I think the original FFVII is probably the best place to start. The materia system is probably the best magic system in any Final Fantasy, and the story still moves me to this day.
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I'd agree. It's pretty accessible on many levels without being tedious. Big reason why it's the one everyone knows about.
If all you can do is emulate I find the gba rerelease of 4 to be a pretty good entry.
 
Cantercoin said:
Possibly dumb question:What's the best final fantasy to start out with if you want to get into the series?
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4, 5, 6, or 7 depending on what you want.

4 is the most accessible and conventional, you really can't go wrong with it, there's a few versions of it that kick ass, grab one and enjoy.

5 is probably the most open-ended and gives you the most customization for your characters. A lot of fun in general due to the job system, which offers impressive customization. Less good can be said about the story but at least the music's great. It's the one I recommend for newcomers since it introduces the job system and tons of stuff we take for granted in FF Games now.

6 is considered by most to be the best one story-wise and has probably the best story-to-mechanic integration as well as some of the strongest characterization, but it's easily the hardest of the bunch and the SNES version is buggy as shit by default.

7 is a good intro RPG and is designed to be accessible while still offering a lot in terms of storytelling chops, and is right up with 4 in terms of being easy to get into, and since it was bleeding edge tech at the time it looks pretty damn good by PS1 standards.
 
To ease into the series you usually go from 7 to 10

You want something more complex than those two, you then do 8 or 9

You want something more turn based or older you do 4 or 6

You want a more open battle system you do 12

After all that you want to see the series origins you play 1,2, and 3

You want to see the beginnings of the job class you play 5

You want to see the most current installment play the 7 Remake.

After all that and you still want more you skip the first two 13 games and just play Lightning Returns

You want to see another jumbled unfished mess play 15

You want a weird spinoff that never really went anywhere but allows you to get overpowered early and crush everything in the game with ease, you play Type Zero.
 
Billy_Sama said:
Am I the only person find IX loading was too unbearable? I bought it on sale on the Switch but I thought Square would trim the loading between battles. Maybe I am getting old and don't have the patience.
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I think the issue only lies with the Switch port. I was playing through it on the Switch and when I switched over to the PC port, it was much faster. It's a shame I had already put so much time into the Switch port and save transfers don't exist :(
 
Billy_Sama said:
Am I the only person find IX loading was too unbearable? I bought it on sale on the Switch but I thought Square would trim the loading between battles. Maybe I am getting old and don't have the patience.
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Nah, that is a legitimate problem. I've owned it on both PS1 and Switch, and as much as I love the game, its biggest issue is that it has the slowest load times and the slowest battles out of the three PS1 FF games. If it weren't for that, it might be my absolute favorite Final Fantasy (right now that honor goes to VII).
 
Okay there's 15 soon to be 16 games. Most people agree the earlier entries are better. 15/2=7.5
Correcting for better old titles we get 7. Play 7. Then decide if you want more things in the forward-thinking style of 7 or you were really engrossed in its more turn-based and fantasy elements. That will decide what you play next. The fact that it's not a goofy 2d game also means it should be less of an artifact.
 
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