the future of this site a.k.a kiwifarms (discuss) - alright, kiwifarms is now an onion site and becoming more and more unstable so let's discuss the future of this site!

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The source of Null saying he'd take down the Farms if it stays Tor only is a thread in this very section of the forum: http://kiwifarmsaaf4t2h7gc3dfc5ojhm...he-internet-and-the-people-who-own-it.131320/
http://kiwifarms.net/threads/i-hate-the-internet-and-the-people-who-own-it.131320/

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Ignoring the February deadline since the site was on clearnet and it sounds like Null has some ideas to return to the clearnet this time, Dear Feeder was being a bit of a doomer the first time Thwomp and Co. bullied the greater internet to remove Kiwi Farms. It was genuinely heartwarming when he fought through it and got the site back up on the .net. It's probably still the nuclear option, but Null's got plenty of fight left in him.

This site's content is legal on the clearnet, and Null has always worked to keep it that way. It's where the site belongs, both so everyone can laugh at retards and peak normies by shining a light into the stinkditch.
 
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While I'm totally fine with the site being tor only until a few things die down, this place needs to be on the clearnet, as much as certain elements and one thwomp faced cretin work against that.

Tor does weed out imbeciles that don't use a pass manager and for whatever reason can't figure out how to use a damn bookmark, but having a place like this to archive internet idiocy is, at least to me, a useful warning to some who would overshare on social media or do other dumb shit. It also shines a very bright light on troons, and making everyone aware of their fucked up fetishes and antisocial behavior is really nothing but a good thing.

All that said, I really think this site should stay tor only throughout 2024, mainly due to the US election and what those tend to be like now. It's not really the best on a usability front, but it's far from the old dialup days. Having to switch tor circuts if the site runs like molasses isn't a huge deal if you only have to click one thing (or tinker with nodes), ya know?

I do miss new users coming in and being assholes/morons/shitposters and fucking around and finding out, as that's imo a big part of what the site culture is, but we already have several, and I really don't see that stopping, just slowing some.

Ultimately it's all up to null, ofc. Man ain't got much quit in him.
 
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TOR only is a pain in many ways. KF being exclusively on it has managed to get a surprising number of people who've never used TOR before to start but it's silly to pretend that it doesn't cut out a lot of casual readers and accessibility to troon documentation. It also ties into the delegitimisation of the site in the minds of normies.

And frankly, the castrati chorus should not get their way.
 
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While Jersh said that on Oct 2022, he also said that there are plans to get on clearnet.
Let it flow. Until then, Tor works quite well. I'm literally getting faster video/image uploads on some Tor circuits compared to the clearnet. Some circuits are bad though, that's also true.
If this can be fixed, Jersh is the guy that can do it, he brought it back so many times and faced legal challenges, even whole nation states like NZ or w/e. Have some patience, cause you don't really have an alternative to KF.
 
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I can’t wait for the site to get back on the clearnet honestly. Tor is slow on my phone and it’s a bitch loading photos and watching videos is literally impossible. And of course we’re losing out on all of the people that contribute that don’t have Tor. Though I can certainly understand why Null is taking his time.
 
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Onni Kalsarikännit said:
Then fucking report the fedposts?

A fedposting fucktard was what got us kicked from Cloudflare last year.
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No, what got us kicked from cloudflare was a crotch-rotted tranny with a hateboner for the fact that Null didn't take down his thread. The fedposter - who posted on 4chan - was just a convenient cover.
 
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Onni Kalsarikännit said:
Then fucking report the fedposts?

A fedposting fucktard was what got us kicked from Cloudflare last year.
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A single post made, shown to cloudflare and deleted within minutes, by a previously inactive account everyone suspects was a troon sleeper.

There was nothing to be done about it, twitter would be over immediately if held to the same standard.
 
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teriyakiburns said:
No, what got us kicked from cloudflare was a crotch-rotted tranny with a hateboner for the fact that Null didn't take down his thread. The fedposter - who posted on 4chan - was just a convenient cover.
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OrangeManCostume said:
A single post made, shown to cloudflare and deleted within minutes, by a previously inactive account everyone suspects was a troon sleeper.

There was nothing to be done about it, twitter would be over immediately if held to the same standard.
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This one specific fedpost in the Keffals thread was the missing puzzle piece. The last necessary event in a chain of events. So yes, it was that one post that got us kicked.

Doesn't matter that it was very convenient for Cloudflare to use that post.
Doesn't matter that the post got quickly deleted.
Doesn't matter that the account who posted it got hacked.
Doesn't matter that it was very lickely a gayop from someone who wanted to damage Kiww Farms.
Doesn't matter that Twitter gets away with people fedposting there. It's not about fucking Twitter, it's about Kiwi Farms.
The end result is what matters: Kiwi Farms got kicked from Cloudflare. That's what matters. One single retarded post damaged the forum.

Did Cloudflare reverse their decision? Did I miss their "Oh, the account who posted the threat got hacked? Oh wow, that changes everything. We will allow Kiwi Farms back under our wings!" statement or what? What did Kiwi Farms get out of it that Cloudflare lost some money and acknowledged that it probably was the wrong decision they made? Null had to deal with their shitty decision and to come up with a solution.

So if you see a fedpost, report it. End of story.

Why do we even need to discuss this?
 
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If anything's been proven it's that this site is extremely resilient. Hell, a nuclear war could happen and this forum could some how find a way to survive it while other large sites would be knocked offline or be half functioning at best.
 
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Lieutenant Rasczak said:
If anything's been proven it's that this site is extremely resilient. Hell, a nuclear war could happen and this forum could some how find a way to survive it while other large sites would be knocked offline or be half functioning at best.
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Someone has to laugh at all the freaks a nuclear war would make.
 
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I'm fine on either clearnet or tor, it doesn't matter to me as long as i get to laugh at retards. What does matter is that someone calling up and writing letters to families of tech people to threaten them to take down an archive and discussion site with info about his sexual harassment history gets to walk away scot free. After all these years lurking it still somehow baffles me that people like this never seem to get their just desserts.
 
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Onni Kalsarikännit said:
Then fucking report the fedposts?

A fedposting fucktard was what got us kicked from Cloudflare last year.
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Base invader is one of @patcon guy aka Arkomia’s sock accounts, just let you know. He has 8 accounts total and half of them are pink triangled.

In his deleted posts he posted a IP grabber on TOR.
 
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Neuroticks said:
I'm fine on either clearnet or tor, it doesn't matter to me as long as i get to laugh at retards. What does matter is that someone calling up and writing letters to families of tech people to threaten them to take down an archive and discussion site with info about his sexual harassment history gets to walk away scot free. After all these years lurking it still somehow baffles me that people like this never seem to get their just desserts.
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forget it neuroticks

it's chinatown
 
Why do half of the videos here not play properly ? And the picture loading time isn't ideal. But at least we have a place where we can call each other homos. Semper fi.
 
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