The Godzilla Thread - Plus other giant monsters, no matter how popular or obscure

Shun Oguri was underused in his role and the mecha/pilot angle was weak. The KOTM Ghidorah connection was barely added in and there was no mention of the eco-terrorist group, unless they're saving that for a future film. Bryan Tyree Henry was annoying. He was more Don Knotts than Djimon Hounsou. Skarsgård was fine, he spend a lot of the film looking shocked and surprised. It's a shame the characters from KOTM were cut from the film. The movie just ends with a weird use of The Hollies. Kong Skull Island at least used better songs and had better animu references.
Pretty much what I'm thinking, there was a lot of b-grade actors in that movie that I can shake a stick at, not to mention on why the producers hired the death note diretor is beyond me.
I swear much of the budget goes to the marketing instead of good writers and set pieces, what a wasted portenal.
 
My main issue is just how it didn't feel connected to anything related to Kong SI. Like no characters returned, no references, we got ONE skull crawler for a second but that's it. If you had removed Skull Island from the canon and just had Kong show up randomly, it wouldn't have changed anything.
 
Not too disappointed with how the fight went against Mecha G. In every Godzilla movie he has lost the first round to Mecha Godzilla and has only been able to win the second round with assistance from humans or other monsters. Showa Godzilla had an assist from King Caesar, in the sequel Mechagodzilla's control unit was destroyed which helped Godzilla get the win. Heisei Godzilla was nearly killed by Mecha Godzilla and needed to be recharged by Fire Rodan. Millennium Godzilla fought Kiryu to a draw in the first movie and lost the rematch in the sequel.

Heisi Mecha Godzilla is particularly disappointing. That Mecha G hardly moved and most of its attacks were beam spam.

It was nice to see Godzilla restored to his Heisei era menace instead of having him be like Gamera.
 
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I may be alone in this, but the 2014 movie is still my favorite of the Murican films. While there wasn't as much Monster stuff, it meant more, and I actually liked the human sub plot. Because there was a single human characters story unfolding, and it was a basic one "get home to family". That makes for way better cinematic glue, than 3-4 groups of humans doing pseudoscience shit.
 
I don't know if it's just me but I'm not a fan of Godzilla being some sort of ancient species. Godzilla works better as a human-made monster. Nuclear testing on what was already lurking in the ocean coupled with man's hubris created a huuuge problem and he can either punish us or redeem us. That shit.

The idea of Godzilla being part of some ancient race really takes a lot out of his presence, as well as just how separate and solitary he is from the world. Sure, the other monsters already existing/coming from space/etc. Is already pretty out there but having Godzilla be just another relative of an existing species removes the original intent of the character.
 
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I don't know if it's just me but I'm not a fan of Godzilla being some sort of ancient species. Godzilla works better as a human-made monster. Nuclear testing on what was already lurking in the ocean coupled with man's hubris created a huuuge problem and he can either punish us or redeem us. That shit.

The idea of Godzilla being part of some ancient race really takes a lot out of his presence, as well as just how separate and solitary he is from the world. Sure, the other monsters already existing/coming from space/etc. Is already pretty out there but having Godzilla be just another relative of an existing species removes the original intent of the character.
I understand where you are coming from, but I'm okay with it given that I watch these movies with a "Showa Era" lens. To me, the MonsterVerse is more inspired by the sillier, more schlocky, "Godzilla is the good guy" Showa Era movies from Toho.

Had this movie been more inspired by either the very first movie, or the Heisei Era, then I'd be giving the same grievance.
 
I understand where you are coming from, but I'm okay with it given that I watch these movies with a "Showa Era" lens. To me, the MonsterVerse is more inspired by the sillier, more schlocky, "Godzilla is the good guy" Showa Era movies from Toho.

Had this movie been more inspired by either the very first movie, or the Heisei Era, then I'd be giving the same grievance.

Oh don't get me wrong. I love the Showa Era to pieces. But even then, Godzilla is still a solitary single entity not connected to a race of ancient Godzillas. Silly as it is, Godzilla being of nuclear origin is always there. Minya/Minilla I don't think is his biological son either.

I'm mostly just wanted to complain about the movie implying that there were a bunch of Kongs and Godzillas that fought during ancient times. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
I really liked it. Reminded me of the campiness of the older movies in a lot of ways. Loads better then the last movie.
 
I did like it when Mechagodzilla got fuckin Black Knight'd :story:
 
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Oh yeah, monke sat on the throne hehe.
 
In the car heading to the IMAX. Trailers start at 7:30, probably won't come back into the thread until anywhere from 10:30 to midnight. Been doing my best to avoid spoilers, especially YouTube 'cause it was recommending me clips. >:/

Predictable or not, I hope it's a blast.
 
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Well I ended up watching it on HBO Max since my plans for a theatrical viewing did not pan out as planned. Like others, my thoughts on this installment are mixed. It definitely showed that it was the shortest of MonsterVerse movies with you going from scene to scene without time for said scene to breathe. A lot of plot points that are brought up in passing are not dwelled upon (Godzilla "defeating" the other Titans and Skull Island being destroyed) and new characters are not given more backstory (like what @Gaear Grimsrud said about the Serizawa character). I get that this genre of movies are not thoughtful and deep pieces of cinema (you can count on one hand the few that do qualify) but with the post-production delays, COVID-19, and finally the hype being built in the last months, I was hoping GvK would not come off as a "meh" entry.

Even with the cons I mentioned, there were some pros I can give to the movie. The first is not having Godzilla fighting Kong and reckoning shit be Mecha G in disguise. While that could be a nice twist for those unfamiliar with the Showa era, it could still come as cop-out given how the movie was being promoted. Speaking of the Showa era, I did like the callback to certain moments in that series such as the beam clash and Kong shoving a wooden object in Godzilla's mouth. Also the monster fights were the highlights of this movie.

With no mid or post-credit scene it appears this may be the last of the MonsterVerse and it is going out with a whimper.
 
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Well I ended up watching it on HBO Max since my plans for a theatrical viewing did not pan out as planned. Like others, my thoughts on this installment are mixed. It definitely showed that it was the shortest of MonsterVerse movies with you go from scene to scene without time for said scene to breath. A lot of plot points that are brought up in passing are not dwelled upon (Godzilla "defeating" the other Titans and Skull Island being destroyed) and new characters are not given more backstory (like what @Gaear Grimsrud said about the Serizawa character). I get that this genre of movies are not thoughtful and deep pieces of cinema (you can count on one hand the few that do qualify) but with the post-production delays, COVID-19, and finally the hype being built in the last months, I was hoping GvK would not come off as a "meh" entry.

Even with the cons I mentioned, there were some pros I can give to the movie. The first is not having Godzilla fighting Kong and reckoning shit be Mecha G in disguise. While that could be a nice twist for those unfamiliar with the Showa era, it could still come as cop-out given how the movie was being promoted. Speaking of the Showa era, I did like the callback to certain moments in that series such as the beam clash and Kong shoving a wooden object in Godzilla's mouth.

With no mid or post-credit scene it appears this may be the last of the MonsterVerse and it is going out with a whimper.
we'll see how much china props up its box office, if they come through big enough there will be more. it doesnt look like they will though, 6 days and only $70 million in china + another $50 million elsewhere. this looks like another financial loss for the monsterverse like kotm
 
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we'll see how much china props up its box office, if they come through big enough there will be more. it doesnt look like they will though, 6 days and only $70 million in china + another $50 million elsewhere. this looks like another financial loss for the monsterverse like kotm
I don't necessarily think we should cater all of our tastes to China. However, if they get us to ease up on the magical tween girls phenomenon, I'm all for it.
 
So I enjoyed the movie overall but it felt like there was scenes missing especially just as the the final fight finished. Mecha Godzilla just wasn’t bulky looking enough imo. Also when Mecha Godzilla went full Skynet who was controlling it? Was it the mind of the pilot, an AI or Gidorah? Apex motivation purely being we should be on top of the food chain was just flat.

We could have done without the Scooby gang in favour of fleshing out Apex and possibly even linking them with the echo terrorists from King of the Monsters who are arguably a march larger threat in the universe.
Well I ended up watching it on HBO Max since my plans for a theatrical viewing did not pan out as planned. Like others, my thoughts on this installment are mixed. It definitely showed that it was the shortest of MonsterVerse movies with you go from scene to scene without time for said scene to breath. A lot of plot points that are brought up in passing are not dwelled upon (Godzilla "defeating" the other Titans and Skull Island being destroyed) and new characters are not given more backstory (like what @Gaear Grimsrud said about the Serizawa character). I get that this genre of movies are not thoughtful and deep pieces of cinema (you can count on one hand the few that do qualify) but with the post-production delays, COVID-19, and finally the hype being built in the last months, I was hoping GvK would not come off as a "meh" entry.

Even with the cons I mentioned, there were some pros I can give to the movie. The first is not having Godzilla fighting Kong and reckoning shit be Mecha G in disguise. While that could be a nice twist for those unfamiliar with the Showa era, it could still come as cop-out given how the movie was being promoted. Speaking of the Showa era, I did like the callback to certain moments in that series such as the beam clash and Kong shoving a wooden object in Godzilla's mouth.

With no mid or post-credit scene it appears this may be the last of the MonsterVerse and it is going out with a whimper.
You know that scene at the end where kong is just running around the hollow earth? That was supposed to be the end credit scene. The director realised they didn’t have a good ending scene so they used that in its place.
We originally shot a post-credits scene, but then we ended up using the footage in the actual movie," he says. "It was one of those things, when we were doing our final stage in the editing, we realized we didn’t have a strong enough ending. Without giving too much away, the actual ending of the film is from footage that we had taken from a post-credits scene. Being crafty in an indie movie way, we actually ended up using that.
 
Also when Mecha Godzilla went full Skynet who was controlling it? Was it the mind of the pilot, an AI or Gidorah?
I think Ghidora but not in an aware "Fuck you, I'm back and pissed" way, more like just the raw instinct of it. The computer they poor the alcohol on was supposed to be connecting the brain computer to MechaG through a satellite, I don't think there was an AI.

Anyone know how downloading the rock worked to make a source of power?
 
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