💬 Off-Topic "The Good Ones" - For the 1% of trannies that pass and/or aren't otherwise fucking insane

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Android raptor said:
Satan and Lilith are pretty cool tho
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Lilith:
Adam did not have 2 wives, When Adam's wife was created, he named her “woman” meaning “of man, or from man.” originally. Lilith is an owl not a person. The word “Lilith” is a Hebrew word that refers to a nocturnal bird of prey, a type of owl found in the desert areas of the Middle East as mentioned at Isaiah 34:14. So, the term “lilith” does not apply to a person in the Scriptures.
Babylonian legends/ jewish folklore/myths claim that “Lilith” was Adam's first wife that left him because she was frustrated that his love for her had weakened so much … after they turned their back on God. Thus, the various stories of a woman “Lilith” are not in the Bible. I believe there is another Jewish myth out there that says "Lilith refused to lay underneath Adam because she believed they were created from the same soil and thus married the devil to bare Adams satanic offspring"

Satan:
The Great Deceiver, nuff said really. Mind you I say that with an agnostic jaundice eye towards religion in general. In this life only two things are guaranteed taxes and death, what's beyond it, is not. But that doesn't mean valuable lessons and morality can't be learned from all different religions and implemented.

Android raptor said:
Abrahamic God is a dick, that's the main reason I reject him.
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But getting to the quote text you posted, based off of what you said even though you think God is a dick and you reject him for that, you would agree that the lgbt movement itself is an outright rejection of God and not just Christianity, Islam, Orthodox Judaism, but even the practices of Buddhism and self discipline. Or are you one of those people who believe "everybody is created equal" even though by every measurable metric that's not true besides a misrepresentation of the new testament? Personally I don't need a religion to tell me what I can see with my own eyes and with data.

Edit: that's ok I wouldn't expect you to understand, seems you have a very basic generic Tumblr IQ.
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Procrastinhater said:
The comedian?
I thought he just crossdressed for his act I didn't realize he was a troon.
Shame he was pretty funny from what I've seen of him. Isn't that the guy who presented the Oscars and shat all over the Hollywood freaks, basically called them all pedos to their faces?
That was the only good thing about the Oscars for years.
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He’s currently hoping to stand as MP for the Labour Party in a constituency that (rightly or wrongly) had an all female shortlist policy.

It’s going down about as well as you would expect from the subjects of Terf Island, but it is doing a fair amount of damage to his party. Seems to give zero shits about that, surprisingly.

He was very funny though and I liked his look when he was a transvestite, rather than skinwalking someone’s Nan.
 
Won't give names, but I met a troon online. Had an interesting backstory and I even spoke with them on the phone. Apparently they came from money on the west coast and ended up in the northeast, is currently a scientist, and also a member of some obscure feminist religion.

The picture I got was...passable. Not attractive in the slightest but I were on the street I would have to look closely to suspect anything, apparently on their local government, and had a bizarre set of reactionary beliefs(which went along with the background and weird religion).

Is the only tranny I have ever met I respected enough to use their pronouns.
 
My experience with "good" trannies is limited to an eccentric with a bizarre religion you'd have to google and beliefs so unexpected you'd have not been able to make them up.

I dunno, maybe I haven't run into a "normal" troon. I suppose that makes sense tho-normal and troon don't belong in the same ontological category.
 
I think you could in the past make the distinction between transexual as personal identity and tranny as political movement.

The former would have made exhaustive efforts to “pass” would have not had the same package of lib-left beliefs(at least not uniformly), and could be tolerated. The latter see it and are used as a battering ram against normative sex roles and sane society.

You see some of this now where trannies are in fact not encouraged to pass or look or act like the sex they want to be-but to be as repulsive and stick out-the point being to shock and confuse, to provoke.*

*This is done intentionally, btw it’s “queerness” as revolutionary social project, the aim being to continually undermine normal sexual and social behavior and fixtures.
 
Anyone I was going to mention already got a mention, except for one.

I didn't see anyone mention Scarlett, the Starcraft 2 pro.

I'm ready for someone to say "oh by the way here's a cache of really really gay drama which is really hard to find on the internet" but she seems to pretty much stay in her lane, do her thing, and not be a massive asshole. She acts like a good one, I've seen nothing to contradict this so far, and people she interacts with every day (Korean Koreans) have only good things to say about her.

As far as I can tell the only kinda iffy aspect is being dubbed the first woman in the GSL while not being a woman, but technically I don't think she asked for that, if that makes any sense, she just wanted to compete against the best. I don't see her, or anyone else, celebrating her identity: they just say "she" and congratulate her when she wins things. Against other men, the best players in the world.

Most importantly I can't find any evidence of Scarlett doing the troon professional competitor trope where a troon she/her's their way into a female tournament or league and dumpsters everyone involved. Maybe Starcraft is just too much of a meritocracy for that to happen, but I think if Scarlett had done things like that I'd see a tournament result reflecting it and I can't find any. Not engaging in that kind of predatory behavior is probably the biggest tell that there's actual character underlying her identity, because with her skill it would be trivial for her to do that if there was an opportunity.

Which really goes to how I see trannies in general: trust is an issue since the chances of split loyalties to the hive mind and/or general mental instability is too high (and the consequences for mis-reading that can be disastrous), but there's no reason they can't be good people, and there's no reason they can't be the exception that proves the rule. If you're not a shite, your actions should reflect that, and like the anecdotes about nonpassing but otherwise solid trannies in communities you wouldn't expect them to be, those actions if consistent will earn people's trust and respect. This sounds obvious but the seeming rejection of that model for community acceptance by the vocal trans community is a big part of why we are where we are: cheap power IS intoxicating.
 
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All it takes is not be a sex pest and keep your boundaries, i'll even use the pronouns because who cares, it takes extra energy to antagonize people and i am never up to it if i can avoid it.

Men certainly don't care about fujoshis apropiating muh manhood, in fact for decades its been encouraged that women invade men spaces and seen as a good thing that everything thats masculine becomes emasculated, the mfts were a good bug in the system because the opposite doesn't hold true and women clearly have a lot of priviledges, free rides and safe spaces they don't want dudes in a wig usurping from them. When some autistic man wearing pantyhose gets an easy scholarship and a promotion campaign kissing his ass just for identifying as a woman i can just chuckle.
 
A few seem relatively sane (apart from, you know, being willing to mutilate their bodies), such as Blaire White, but I imagine (or at least hope) that there’s a lot more of them off the internet, just living normal lives.

As for ones that genuinely pass, I don’t think any do in all circumstances from all angles or at all times with their voices. But I think the closest I know of would be:
  • Abby Parmelee: but she’s actually intersex (XX male, IIRC), so might not be the best example.
  • Emily Tressa: when not dressed as a drag queen or with her eyebrows shaved off, which just makes her look like an alien instead.
  • Robin Jaspers: even sounds like a girl when singing.
  • Hunter Schafer: Jules from Euphoria. Seems to look most consistently female in model makeup, and interestingly not always in the show itself.
  • Nicole Maines: some other actress.
  • Kim Petras: maybe less so now after the botched plastic surgery and weight gain, but previously looked reasonably attractive.
Sarina Valentina also looked convincingly female before going overboard with plastic surgery. I’d imagine there are some similar passing pornstars and camgirls out there.

I thought Zoe @firion seemed to come close to the sweet spot of both passing relatively well and being seemingly relatively sane (assuming obvious autism doesn’t count), but maybe being in a relationship with Bella tells a different story.
 
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