💬 Off-Topic "The Good Ones" - For the 1% of trannies that pass and/or aren't otherwise fucking insane

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Most importantly I can't find any evidence of Scarlett doing the troon professional competitor trope where a troon she/her's their way into a female tournament or league and dumpsters everyone involved. Maybe Starcraft is just too much of a meritocracy for that to happen, but I think if Scarlett had done things like that I'd see a tournament result reflecting it and I can't find any.
Mostly true. When Scarlett started ranking high in major tourneys 5ish years ago, the Canadian media did the usual "first female" psyop and then there was some typical terfing and sperging and whiteknighting in the comment sections, but the whole thing fizzled surprisingly quickly.

Probably part of what let it fizzle quickly is that Scarlett didn't give the press a million quotes, leading inevitably to a follow-up story about "brave athlete stands up to fascist misogynist cis white men" blah blah. Leading to endless follow-up stories. Someone like keffals would just have to do all that. And that probably just makes sense right - Scarlett doesn't have time for all that shit, Scarlett's gota practice starcraft 14 hours/day. And Scarlett derives joy from being good at something and doing a good job, instead of sperging for ditch thirsty journos.

Also a side anecdote - Earlier this year I was watching a random Artosis brood war stream where he was deciding whether to unban random followers. So next up was some twitch sperg who said shit about Scarlett in his chat. So the stream chat instantly turned into 8chan vs reddit but Artosis said "uh yeah I don't do politics or care about news stuff but Scarlett is my friend and if you say shit about my friends you don't get unbanned."

Finally - we don't have to worry about Scarlett taking opportunity from female starcrafters because there's no serious women's league (I'm pretty sure) and there are no women in the top 1,000. It's like chess and poker, the XX humans just can't compete with XYs.
 
Nah, but I wanna say until Yaniv came around troon was used to describe the stinkbeasts & wasn't a general umbrella term like it is now.
Troon was originally the term trans members of Something Awful used to refer to themselves (it's a portmanteau of 'trans' and 'goon'). Some of us Kiwis decided to use it to refer to the freaks and fakers.
 
Troon was originally the term trans members of Something Awful used to refer to themselves (it's a portmanteau of 'trans' and 'goon'). Some of us Kiwis decided to use it to refer to the freaks and fakers.
Something Sensitive refugees also brought the pejorative version with them as they migrated here, I know I saw it floating around there as a pejorative as early as 2014 when I lurked though wayback suggests 2013 is the earliest documented instance there since that's when the "non goon troons" thread was posted. That's close to the start on that forum, so it may have come into common pejorative use prior on one of the earlier offshoots like SASS ,TNE, or MPC.
 
Normal/passing trannies don't exist, but I want one!

Okay, maybe not an actual tranny, but, like...a femboy on estrogen. Who actually passes as a woman. And hasn't cut off his wiener.

Why am I such a faggot?
 
Normal/passing trannies don't exist, but I want one!

Okay, maybe not an actual tranny, but, like...a femboy on estrogen. Who actually passes as a woman. And hasn't cut off his wiener.

Why am I such a faggot?
i hate to break it to you but estrogen literally just gives you moobs and acne
 
Not really sure if this is the right thread, but I guess I'll just have to link a post in the correct forum to this one.

Most of you would probably be familiar with who Lynn Conway is, but if not I would totally recommend giving this website a visit for some true 'web1.0 batshitery' as someone else on the farms described it.


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As I proceed, I'd just like you to keep in mind that all of this ancient blog is still update as recently last and is being hosted on the fucking University of Michigan's website.
Also, some people may feel that what i have done here is cruel, I;m only sharing because I think other may be interested in it and not for base pwnage. Whilst I, too, have sympathy for Lynn who has my respect as brilliant and creative scientist, Lynn also supported the sexual harassment of Michael J. Bailey's prepubescent daughters by Andrea James in the early 2000s

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The content on this website is extremely interesting, but I became interested in his power words when even all declassified publications from the mid 1966 have been altered or simply redacted. Over the course of the blog, Conway uses the self-admitted pseudonym 'Robert Sanders' to denote his deadname, which is justified as a means of 'protecting the identities of friends and family'. The effect of the tact is that I've seen some journalists (back in the late 1990s when Conway was forced out of stealth) mistook it for the actual name.

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Lynn is seemingly unaware that living '30 years stealth' doesn't apply to the female pharmacy clerk who knows you buy a full douche preparation from every week and tampons zero times

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Needless to say, this is a cautionary tale in how oversharing only the information you want others to know will lead to the oversharing of information you'd rather have kept private.

case in point: I'm not sure Lynn knows about the wayback machine (NB: Holy Shit this site has functioning archives from 2000)
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Lynn was born into a seemingly Upper Middle Class family in NY whose father was of a reasonably high profile (the divorce of his parents in the 1940s when he was just a small child obviously had a big psychological impact but that's all in the blog)

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Was is interesting is that 'Robert' entered MIT (later to drop out) in 1956~1957, this mean that he likely went graduated high school in 1955~1956, as evidenced by documentation of his femboy arc

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Luckily, Lynn shared which highschool he went to...

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...and this highschool just so happens to have archival yearbooks open to the public for the class of '55

ngl, it was actually kind of hard to compare across the 100s of potential faces and match a name

However, one 'Rufus Savage' had a very familiar overbite

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My memory of how I sumbled across this is little hazy, but I found that Lynn actually is still hosting a fully archived html version of a pamphlet of the class of '55 reunion on the same fucking University of Michigan domain !!!!!!

http://web.eecs.umich.edu/~mirror/WPHS/40thReunion/40thReunion.html

Along with the yearbook I found!!!

http://web.eecs.umich.edu/~mirror/WPHS/Oracle/Oracle.html

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Gee, I wonder why this 'R. L. Savage only has their initials listed?

:gunt:S U S:gunt:
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*que ironside theme*

Also a google of the name Rufus L. savage returns the obituary of his father. Apparently one of the first American petrochemical engineers to work in Saudi Arabia... and we found out where 'Lynn' comes from
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I was also able to find out some info on Lynn's younger brother, who he also failed to anonymize
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...for someone who was responsible for so much of the digital age, Lynn doesn't appear to know what 'inspect element' is

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Not really sure if this is the right thread, but I guess I'll just have to link a post in the correct forum to this one.

Most of you would probably be familiar with who Lynn Conway is, but if not I would totally recommend giving this website a visit for some true 'web1.0 batshitery' as someone else on the farms described it.


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As I proceed, I'd just like you to keep in mind that all of this ancient blog is still update as recently last and is being hosted on the fucking University of Michigan's website.
Also, some people may feel that what i have done here is cruel, I;m only sharing because I think other may be interested in it and not for base pwnage. Whilst I, too, have sympathy for Lynn who has my respect as brilliant and creative scientist, Lynn also supported the sexual harassment of Michael J. Bailey's prepubescent daughters by Andrea James in the early 2000s

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The content on this website is extremely interesting, but I became interested in his power words when even all declassified publications from the mid 1966 have been altered or simply redacted. Over the course of the blog, Conway uses the self-admitted pseudonym 'Robert Sanders' to denote his deadname, which is justified as a means of 'protecting the identities of friends and family'. The effect of the tact is that I've seen some journalists (back in the late 1990s when Conway was forced out of stealth) mistook it for the actual name.

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Lynn is seemingly unaware that living '30 years stealth' doesn't apply to the female pharmacy clerk who knows you buy a full douche preparation from every week and tampons zero times

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Needless to say, this is a cautionary tale in how oversharing only the information you want others to know will lead to the oversharing of information you'd rather have kept private.

case in point: I'm not sure Lynn knows about the wayback machine (NB: Holy Shit this site has functioning archives from 2000)
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Lynn was born into a seemingly Upper Middle Class family in NY whose father was of a reasonably high profile (the divorce of his parents in the 1940s when he was just a small child obviously had a big psychological impact but that's all in the blog)

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Was is interesting is that 'Robert' entered MIT (later to drop out) in 1956~1957, this mean that he likely went graduated high school in 1955~1956, as evidenced by documentation of his femboy arc

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Luckily, Lynn shared which highschool he went to...

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...and this highschool just so happens to have archival yearbooks open to the public for the class of '55

ngl, it was actually kind of hard to compare across the 100s of potential faces and match a name

However, one 'Rufus Savage' had a very familiar overbite

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My memory of how I sumbled across this is little hazy, but I found that Lynn actually is still hosting a fully archived html version of a pamphlet of the class of '55 reunion on the same fucking University of Michigan domain !!!!!!

http://web.eecs.umich.edu/~mirror/WPHS/40thReunion/40thReunion.html

Along with the yearbook I found!!!

http://web.eecs.umich.edu/~mirror/WPHS/Oracle/Oracle.html

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Gee, I wonder why this 'R. L. Savage only has their initials listed?

:gunt:S U S:gunt:
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*que ironside theme*

Also a google of the name Rufus L. savage returns the obituary of his father. Apparently one of the first American petrochemical engineers to work in Saudi Arabia... and we found out where 'Lynn' comes from
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I was also able to find out some info on Lynn's younger brother, who he also failed to anonymize
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...for someone who was responsible for so much of the digital age, Lynn doesn't appear to know what 'inspect element' is

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You've done some good work on this.
I wasn't familiar with this story before.
 
On a related note, I actually believe that most of the crazy trans activists aren't really transgender, in the sense that they don't actually have gender dysphoria. They push self-identification as the only requirement to being trans because it's the only way they can be considered trans.
 
I know this is a thread for "The good ones", and this TiF princess was extremely good at her job.
Unfortunately, her job was crushing resistance on behalf of the evil Japanese invaders.
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  • Convinced her Emperor cousin to submit to the Japanese without a fight.
  • Personally lead an army for several years crushing freedom fighters.
  • A music star (you can judge for yourself if it was good or bad)
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And of course, she was raped by her stepfather as a child.
 
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I know this is a thread for "The good ones", and this TiF princess was extremely good at her job.
Unfortunately, her job was crushing resistance on behalf of the evil Japanese invaders.
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  • Convinced her Emperor brother to submit to the Japanese without a fight.
  • Personally lead an army for several years crushing freedom fighters.
  • A music star (you can judge for yourself if it was good or bad)
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And of course, she was raped by her stepfather as a child.
You want to share her name?
 
It's not that easy.

Manchu actual name: Aisin Gioro Xianyu
Royal name: Dongzhen
Chinese common name: Jin Bihui.
Japanese name after she was adopted: Kawashima Yoshiko
Chinese translation of her Japanese name after arrest: Chuangdao Fangzi

No troon name surprisingly

Yeah, I don't think she was transgender, but rather a transvestite.
 
I can't think of one IRL that wasn't either noticeably not a TRUE an HONEST woman/man or unbearably annoying to deal with. The only one I can actually listen to is Sphere Hunter, who seemed to be the victim of the trans-to-porn pipeline before getting the fuck out (probably not before getting some STDs) and starting a youtube channel. Sure, her videos are kinda shilling her favorite games and franchises with very little criticism, but at least it's part of an identity that isn't "trans".
 
Not so much about troons but about how they're discussed.


I hate how kf has reached the echochamber level where anyone going slightly against the grain when people are criticizing "thing" gets accused of being some stereotypical supporter of "thing".

I don't mean that as "me smarter than dumb kiwis" either, it's got nothing to do with me it's a site culture I saw when lurking way before making an account.

In kiwifarms case peak schizo is when the "thing" is anything trans related. Eg, I was against posting minors on here in some trans thread and about 3 people thought that meant I wanted kids to get GRS. No one should base their knowledge on trans people on kf, not because trans people are perfect but because of kf is so skewed in one direction you will never get unbiased info.

The irony is, I actually signed up for kiwifarms partly to be able to shit on trans shit on social media but kf was so schizo and cruel (I dislike telling people to kill themselves) about it that it actually made me more pro trans in a "this is what they have to deal with?" Sorta way. Plus I just fucking quit social media.

Edit: "more pro trans" not "more trans".
 
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Not so much about troons but about how they're discussed.


I hate how kf has reached the echochamber level where anyone going slightly against the grain when people are criticizing "thing" gets accused of being some stereotypical supporter of "thing".

I don't mean that as "me smarter than dumb kiwis" either, it's got nothing to do with me it's a site culture I saw when lurking way before making an account.

In kiwifarms case peak schizo is when the "thing" is anything trans related. Eg, I was against posting minors on here in some trans thread and about 3 people thought that meant I wanted kids to get GRS. No one should base their knowledge on trans people on kf, not because trans people are perfect but because of kf is so skewed in one direction you will never get unbiased info.

The irony is, I actually signed up for kiwifarms partly to be able to shit on trans shit on social media but kf was so schizo and cruel (I dislike telling people to kill themselves) about it that it actually made me more pro trans in a "this is what they have to deal with?" Sorta way. Plus I just fucking quit social media.

Edit: "more pro trans" not "more trans".

Some people act like it is such a horrible selfish and narcissistic act to want to be cormfortable in your own skin and not totally hate yourself when you look in the mirror.
 
A person being tolerable to interact with and having basic manners doesn't mean they're good, normal or sane. Fucked up, horrible people can still manage to be polite. Says a lot about trannies that the few who do pass that low bar are held up as rare credits to their species.
 
Not so much about troons but about how they're discussed.


I hate how kf has reached the echochamber level where anyone going slightly against the grain when people are criticizing "thing" gets accused of being some stereotypical supporter of "thing".

I don't mean that as "me smarter than dumb kiwis" either, it's got nothing to do with me it's a site culture I saw when lurking way before making an account.

In kiwifarms case peak schizo is when the "thing" is anything trans related. Eg, I was against posting minors on here in some trans thread and about 3 people thought that meant I wanted kids to get GRS. No one should base their knowledge on trans people on kf, not because trans people are perfect but because of kf is so skewed in one direction you will never get unbiased info.

The irony is, I actually signed up for kiwifarms partly to be able to shit on trans shit on social media but kf was so schizo and cruel (I dislike telling people to kill themselves) about it that it actually made me more pro trans in a "this is what they have to deal with?" Sorta way. Plus I just fucking quit social media.

Edit: "more pro trans" not "more trans".
I agree, it’s not really about proper discussion, it’s about saying it from such a pedestal, we have a lot of truth here but anything said in even the most mildly positive trans inclusion gets people reeing. If there was an attempt to cut back on the venomous discussion sometimes and less jokes and from a more calm and analytical take on dismantling the trans narrative I think more people would take it more seriously. I am not against making edgy jokes, but the extreme hostility some users have here make it near impossible for others to take seriously. I have personally some trans people that are grounded people if they keep to themselves aren’t being abrasive about it.

I do feel especially Sorry for those that have been brutalised into being this way out of sexual abuse, the farms obviously picks thé obviously picks the absolute worst and most dangerous people for humours sake and they do ignore a lot of them can be somewhat smart and provide interesting stuff to humanity, there should be a tranny dérangement thread I swear to take some people down a peg imao.
 
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