The Holocaust Thread - The Great Debate Between Affirmers, Revisionists and Deniers

[Kola]

Again there are plenty of points to question and examine but it’s ludicrous to say there were no death camps based on the evidence that clearly there were some.

And again I would like to see some of that evidence. A letter with a post hoc explanation that this was actually written in code but was actually common knowledge and somehow everyone reading the letter knew exactly how to decode it is not evidence.

 

[Neodanthril]

imply anything other than ultimately extermination

You can find correspondences between Churchill and various allied higher ups when he explicitly talks about exterminating the Germans, so

none of the people accused at the Nuremberg trials denied being a part of killing Jews.

They were not legally allowed to argue that particular point. That 6 million Jews were masturbated to death in awwshits was taken fact in what's called judicial notice. The only defense the nazis were allowed to make is they weren't involved or were just following orders. That case was such a sham they had Rudolph hess confessing that camps that were not being called death camps were death camps

 

[One Winged Pear Farmer]

“They weren’t allowed to deny it” is a retard cope. Almost as retarded as them claiming they had no choice and were following orders considering it wasn’t unheard of for nazis who refused to participate to simply be reassigned and there are no records of people being killed for refusing to carry out genocidal orders. You can say they had no choice but I can guarantee if most people are accused of participating in a genocide they didn’t do they will still deny it regardless of any stipulations given to them. You are also selling the idea of Jewish masterminds fabricating the greatest false flag in history while simultaneously being retarded enough to not understand that a good false flag requires real bodies in order to be remotely believable. Not to mention it would mean that the German command in Berlin was burning documents for shits and giggles. If there was no genocide there would be zero reason to be concerned about burning records while the soviets are on a nonstop rape train from the East

 

[Trump's Chosen]

Lmao yes, being questioned in front of a jury sure is torture. Goring’s fatass sure looked under duress when he was laughing to other party members at the start.

No, that's not being tortured.

Are you genuinely unaware of the torture that was done, like the torture of Rudolf Höss that was revealed 40 years later by people that dived into allied documents?

He had confessed to killing 2.5 million jews at auschwitz, a number practically no historian now accepts. Jupp Aschenbrenner confessed under torture that he had helped work on the mobile gas chambers in a specific period of time. Year later he was able to prove the falsehood of his torture.

In a lot of cases family members were threatened with harm if they did not sign. In the Dachau case a lot of death sentence convictions were overturned because each of the defendants had their testicles crushed into permanent damage, which is one of the examples where the tortures were acknowledged in their own timeframe, instead of later due to document diving.

I will now graciously accept your admission that you made a mistake and that you did not previously know about this. Surely you wouldn't want to make such an egregious error without correcting your mistake.

 

[One Winged Pear Farmer]

No, that's not being tortured.

Are you genuinely unaware of the torture that was done, like the torture of Rudolf Höss that was revealed 40 years later by people that dived into allied documents?

He had confessed to killing 2.5 million jews at auschwitz, a number practically no historian now accepts. Jupp Aschenbrenner confessed under torture that he had helped work on the mobile gas chambers in a specific period of time. Year later he was able to prove the falsehood of his torture.

In a lot of cases family members were threatened with harm if they did not sign. In the Dachau case a lot of death sentence convictions were overturned because each of the defendants had their testicles crushed into permanent damage, which is one of the examples where the tortures were acknowledged in their own timeframe, instead of later due to document diving.

I will now graciously accept your admission that you made a mistake and that you did not previously know about this. Surely you wouldn't want to make such an egregious error without correcting your mistake.

Nah sounds pretty justified, and doesn’t discount the numerous other proofs that they carried out serious acts. Dont really care if it was millions or a few hundreds, any individual directly involved with such camps deserves worse.

 

[Bonesjones]

This is dumb. Look at the account. Literally nothing about the account makes it seem like a sockpuppet.

The whole point of sock puppets is to make your propaganda look organic you fucking retard.

Because @FunPosting101 has been here since 2019, posts in a ton of different subjects. Like the only thing that seems to suggest he's a sockpuppet is that he disagrees with people that think disagreement with them is impossible without having a nefarious agenda.

The thing that makes him a sock puppet is to show up and shit up the thread while adding nothing, much like the rest of you.

 

[Althalus]

Nah sounds pretty justified, and doesn’t discount the numerous other proofs that they carried out serious acts. Dont really care if it was millions or a few hundreds, any individual directly involved with such camps deserves worse.

>"They deserved torture because they did bad things"
>"Btw, we """"know"""" they did those things because we tortured them until they confessed
> They deserved worse because we """"know""""" they confessed to it.

Do you realize how retarded you sound? Literal circular logic.

I thought Jews were supposed to have high verbal IQ.....

 

[One Winged Pear Farmer]

>"They deserved torture because they did bad things"
>How do we know they did bad things?
>"We tortured them until they confessed, they deserved worse btw"

Do you realize how retarded you sound? Literal circular logic.

I thought Jews were supposed to have high verbal IQ.....

There’s a litany of other reasons we can tell the Nazis were involved with death camps, the claim was that he confessed to a number that is not supported. The number is irrelevant to the reality of the actions. Guess the destroyed documents were just making sure no one got ahold of Goebbels’ homoerotic hitler fan fictions

 

[Althalus]

the claim was that he confessed to a number that is not supported.

The claim was that he confessed to a false number, and also confessed to using a mobile gas chamber, both of these admissions were made under torture, were subsequently retracted, and are not supported by evidence.

The number is irrelevant to the reality of the actions

You can't just throw out flippant statements like "the numbers are irrelevant to his actions" when 1), the alleged death numbers are the focus of most of the arguments in this thread, and 2) it is extremely relevant, as it LITERALLY makes the difference between whether or not he did the claimed actions.

 

[Bonesjones]

There’s a litany of other reasons we can tell the Nazis were involved with death camps, the claim was that he confessed to a number that is not supported. The number is irrelevant to the reality of the actions. Guess the destroyed documents were just making sure no one got ahold of Goebbels’ homoerotic hitler fan fictions

Ok now prove it scientifically. Show us proof of a single gassed jew. I'll wait.

 

[One Winged Pear Farmer]

The claim was that he confessed to a false number, and also confessed to using a mobile gas chamber, both of these admissions were made under torture, were subsequently retracted, and are not supported by evidence.

You can't just throw out flippant statements like "the numbers are irrelevant to his actions" when 1), the alleged death numbers are the focus of most of the arguments in this thread, and 2) it is extremely relevant, as it LITERALLY makes the difference between whether or not he did it.

No, whether it was 2 million or 25 it would still stand that he murdered innocents, almost certainly including children. That’s enough for me to not care what they did to him. Also the numbers that are relevant to the thread overall are total numbers. However even if you were to prove that the 6 million number is over blown; which hell could be possible, if it was even in the thousands that’s a pretty clear case for it being a systemic and planned progrom aimed at wiping out a targeted group. Weird how hard you faggots defend larpers in designer uniforms that killed children but go off I guess

 

[Trump's Chosen]

“They weren’t allowed to deny it” is a retard cope

Nah sounds pretty justified

That goalpost moved at the speed of light.

 

[One Winged Pear Farmer]

That goalpost moved at the speed of light.

Not really, the claim of it being illegal to deny it was retarded and the fact that they tortured child murderers is based, two things can be true

 

[Trump's Chosen]

The thing that makes him a sock puppet is to show up and shit up the thread while adding nothing, much like the rest of you.

Yes, I'm sure he made the account a year in advance of this thread and spend time commenting on completely unrelated stuff, so that he could shit up page 329 to advance his propaganda goals 5 years after.

He could be adding valuable discussion, like accusing people of being shills without any substantiation why that would be the case.

 

[Bonesjones]

Yes, I'm sure he made the account a year in advance of this thread and spend time commenting on completely unrelated stuff, so that he could shit up page 329 to advance his propaganda goals 5 years after.

He could be adding valuable discussion, like accusing people of being shills without any substantiation why that would be the case.

My posts literally make up a quarter of the thread you illiterate fuck.

 

[Trump's Chosen]

My posts literally make up a quarter of the thread you illiterate fuck.

I agree, there should be a minimum amount of posts in this thread before you are allowed to post in this thread.

 

[Justin Igger]

“They weren’t allowed to deny it” is a retard cope

right, people not being allowed to deny the holocaust is a ridiculous notion.

a good false flag requires real bodies in order to be remotely believable.

You don’t say.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/aMsiMRiKEWOj

 

[cigint]

Lmao yes, being questioned in front of a jury sure is torture

"I saw a video where he wasn't tortured, proving he was never tortured."

Under normal circumstances I would regard argumentation that is this retarded to be concern-trolling, but this is one of the rare cases where I think the poster actually just is this stupid, and not facetiously disingenuous.

 

[TJT]

Moreover, when you factor in POWs taken into the losses category, (as you should, since those are still losses) what the soviets did becomes much less impressive in this regard.

Barbarossa was the largest land invasion in history. Handwaving it away makes perfect sense. Come on now dude.


Also curious, I went to look at this link that has been linked in this thread like a hundred times and its been deleted from the site?

https://www.auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschwitz-prisoners/prisoner-numbers/

 

[FunPosting101]

Overlord was the largest amphibious invasion in history. Handwaving it away makes perfect sense. Come on now dude.

See? I can do this sort of sarcastic, dismissive handwaving too. Doesn't change the fact that when you actually look at the loss figures objectively; (I.E not ignoring POWs taken, for example.) what the Russians accomplished looks much less impressive.