The Kiwi Farms userscripts - AKA Autistically fixing the reaction system that Null broke

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Xenforo's actual thread watch function just isn't very good. If you follow a large number of threads, you'll get a ton of notifs in the alerts section. Clicking this alerts section to check what you have will automatically clear all the notifs regardless of whether you actually open the updated threads or not, which either forces you to just let it sit and accumulate or to just open a billion tabs in new windows every time (Something Null actually complained at me for doing when the site was on really thin ice because it was straining the back end, lol). Furthermore, it'll just stop updating you on a thread every now and then, despite you having followed it. It's not even specific to kiwi farms but just xenforo in general and I don't know why it's so botched. The more "intuitive" option doesn't work, so of course people track by reactions.

In addition to that, forums are ultimately a social networking site and the point of those, as the name implies, is to be social. Why would I just post random shit into the void that nobody's going to see if I could do something more productive instead? I don't necessarily care to read a bunch of nonsense from very fast threads but if there's notifications of any kind to a message I posted, positive or negative, it indicates that there's some type of conversation around something I was involved in that I'm more likely to care about. Caring about how others respond to you when socializing isn't "counterintuitive" or "brain broken," it's just how human socialization works on a fundamental level and I don't know why it's being characterized as so weird to want to know what others think of something you posted for others to read.

As for navigating through subforums, that works great if you really love specific subforums or whatever but if you have varied interests it's not so great. There's a thread I follow in at least every forum, and I don't think there's any forum where I actively follow a large number of threads at a time. Under the @Lidl Drip model of forum navigation, am I supposed to just open the entire website at once to check for any activity every time I feel like using the site, given that notifications don't work very well? That seems far more neurotic than checking the tab that tells me whether people are engaged in a discussion I engaged in or not, and a far less intuitive way to use a social networking website such as this.
 
Xenforo's actual thread watch function just isn't very good. If you follow a large number of threads, you'll get a ton of notifs in the alerts section. Clicking this alerts section to check what you have will automatically clear all the notifs regardless of whether you actually open the updated threads or not,
Friend, just click the bell again if you know you have multi notifs. The new ones will remain highlighted.
Alternatively, open the alerts window in a new tab.

It's retarded, but it works.
 
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Or would we?
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Xenforo's actual thread watch function just isn't very good. If you follow a large number of threads, you'll get a ton of notifs in the alerts section. Clicking this alerts section to check what you have will automatically clear all the notifs regardless of whether you actually open the updated threads or not, which either forces you to just let it sit and accumulate or to just open a billion tabs in new windows every time (Something Null actually complained at me for doing when the site was on really thin ice because it was straining the back end, lol). Furthermore, it'll just stop updating you on a thread every now and then, despite you having followed it. It's not even specific to kiwi farms but just xenforo in general and I don't know why it's so botched. The more "intuitive" option doesn't work, so of course people track by reactions.

In addition to that, forums are ultimately a social networking site and the point of those, as the name implies, is to be social. Why would I just post random shit into the void that nobody's going to see if I could do something more productive instead? I don't necessarily care to read a bunch of nonsense from very fast threads but if there's notifications of any kind to a message I posted, positive or negative, it indicates that there's some type of conversation around something I was involved in that I'm more likely to care about. Caring about how others respond to you when socializing isn't "counterintuitive" or "brain broken," it's just how human socialization works on a fundamental level and I don't know why it's being characterized as so weird to want to know what others think of something you posted for others to read.

As for navigating through subforums, that works great if you really love specific subforums or whatever but if you have specific and varied interests it's not so great. There's a thread I follow in at least every forum, and I don't think there's any forum where I actively follow a large number of threads at a time. Under the @Lidl Drip model of forum navigation, am I supposed to just open the entire website at once to check for any activity every time I feel like using the site, given that notifications don't work very well? That seems far more neurotic than checking the tab that tells me whether people are engaged in a discussion I engaged in or not, and a far less intuitive way to use a social networking website such as this.
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Also, looking at reactions I have found a lot of users I have never seen post before and check out their profile. It's just a fun way to interact with the site and see the users that are on it and just hand waving it as "reddit upvotes bad" is so frustrating.
This is a good point. I loved checking out the user profiles who were reacting to my posts, both new and old. It's a great way to easily explore new areas of the site in a more natural fashion. The more I think about it the more I feel this decision stifles the innate curiosity that this community thrives on.
 
This is a good point. I loved checking out the user profiles who were reacting to my posts, both new and old. It's a great way to easily explore new areas of the site in a more natural fashion. The more I think about it the more I feel this decision stifles the innate curiosity that this community thrives on.
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This is a good point. I loved checking out the user profiles who were reacting to my posts, both new and old. It's a great way to easily explore new areas of the site in a more natural fashion. The more I think about it the more I feel this decision stifles the innate curiosity that this community thrives on.
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Looking forward to next year when reactions are axed entirely while null is in a bad mood, and we get to see thread clutter, something reactions were intended to curb, increase tenfold. Will be a real return to ye olden days of forums.
Have problem
Humanity comes up with "Eureka" solution to problem
Solution becomes tradition
Tradition abandoned because it's "antiquated"
Problem comes back
 
Looking forward to next year when reactions are axed entirely while null is in a bad mood, and we get to see thread clutter, something reactions were intended to curb, increase tenfold. Will be a real return to ye olden days of forums.
At this point if that happens people will just disregard the whole "Don't comment if you don't care" rules the subforums have for a very good fucking reason and it'll make jannies actually demand payment from Jersh over a problem he made.
 
This is a good point. I loved checking out the user profiles who were reacting to my posts, both new and old. It's a great way to easily explore new areas of the site in a more natural fashion. The more I think about it the more I feel this decision stifles the innate curiosity that this community thrives on.
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Guys, I think this new sticker system is far better than the original, change my mind.
 
At this point if that happens people will just disregard the whole "Don't comment if you don't care" rules the subforums have for a very good fucking reason and it'll make jannies actually demand payment from Jersh over a problem he made.
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Guys, I think this new sticker system is far better than the original, change my mind.
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@SanicBlackMagic I reated with :agree:
 
Have problem
Humanity comes up with "Eureka" solution to problem
Solution becomes tradition
Tradition abandoned because it's "antiquated"
Problem comes back
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Guys, I think this new sticker system is far better than the original, change my mind.
it shits up the thread more, but whats one more tool in the tool box
 
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