The Kiwi Farms userscripts - AKA Autistically fixing the reaction system that Null broke

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That hurt, honestly. I loved the stickers, and I don't think I deserve to be hated.
As humans, we are hardwired to care what other people think of us. When we contribute something to a group, we have a deeply seeded need to know how it was received.

People denigrating this or saying we're like redditors (but for some reason not like the users of X) are just trying to appeal to each other. It's two different sides to the same psychological need.

Ultimately, I think there's a reason why it's more fun to post here than "into the void" on a site like graph.org, and it's the community responses. The fact you could get 100 trash cans in 5 minutes if your thought was actually dumb makes it feel like a fun risk.
 
We only just started 2025 and already we have the first seat-of-your-pants sweeping change made to the site. Does this bode well for the rest of the year?

So the whole thing he posted on April 1st about paying 20$ to get the notifications back is also not a thing anymore I take it?
 
Josh's stubbornness is a blessing and a curse at the same time. It's the reason we were able to stay afloat during de-platforming campaigns but at the same time it's the reason why he refuses to change dumb decisions like this one

Being able to see the reaction should be OPTIONAL, if a person would want to see the reaction they should be able to, purposefully sabotaging attempts at doing so is completely unnecessary and retarded
 
Being able to see the reaction should be OPTIONAL, if a person would want to see the reaction they should be able to, purposefully sabotaging attempts at doing so is completely unnecessary and retarded
It was up until the point where Josh decided we shouldn't have the option. Twice.
 
Every time something gets obliterated and I don't know why I'm either directly told what happened or directly linked what happened, I never seem to find things out on my own eh? No but seriously this is fucking hilarious as it is autistic. INB4 the site is shutdown because someone made a code involving reaction again.
 
People denigrating this or saying we're like redditors (but for some reason not like the users of X) are just trying to appeal to each other. It's two different sides to the same psychological need.
The worst thing is, the comparison between reddit karma and reaction score is completely misplaced. Reddit karma isn't maligned because it's a numerical score added to posts. Virtually every forum or social media platform made now has some similar system in place. Karma is widely maligned because it's obtrusive, difficult to ignore, and arguably engineered to enforce maximum social conformity. If you drop under a certain score, you become unable to post in certain areas, and you'll likely find yourself surreptitiously banned from others. If you want to survive on reddit, you have to tailor your posts around the idea of continually farming karma, or you get run out.

Here, people get obsessed over reaction score and stickers for no other reason than they care about the people actually handing them out. You lose nothing from a negative score, nothing happens at all. In fact it's actually quite difficult to deliberately maintain a negative reaction score assuming you arent some weird troll or pedo. Users invest a piece of themselves into these little icons, absent any outward incentive to do so beyond internal social clout. If that isn't an indicator of excellent community health, I don't know what possibly could be.

Seriously Josh, I'm sure it's annoying dealing with people sperging about the reaction system, but at the end of the day they're doing it out of love for the thing YOU built. They're doing it because the community YOU built is so damn successful, people give a shit if they're a part of it or not.
 
For me the whole point of posting to a forum is to engage with other people, is that not the case for you?
As humans, we are hardwired to care what other people think of us.
Yes, but not everyone uses that input to adjust to the community - there's plenty of people who develop in opposition to it.
The notion of taking other people's feedback into consideration to shift one's habits accordingly (past childhood, where it's mostly just enforced) is a basic social skill that is a huge predictor on whether or not someone will function in and connect to people outside their usual cultural sphere - but some can't and some do not want to.
It's the difference between a rapefugee incapable of speaking anything but sandnigger no matter what and a dude from Syria who masters English/Dutch/Swedish/German in a few years, gets a job and starts being part of the pot.

Expecting someone who goes through life in "My way or no way" mode to understand that different people enjoy connecting to and interacting with others in different ways is a pretty big ask. It's like a Muzzie in a land of agnostics - one that reckons that on top of faggots, he's gonna Jihad extra hard against stickers on the internet.
 
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This is just a joke right? Dear Sneeder will only keep it like this for like a day right?:stress:
I didn't care for reaction scores but the received reacts where a convenient way to look into how lively a thread has been since the last post.
You should bottle and sell whatever you use to stay so optimistic.
 
The worst thing is, the comparison between reddit karma and reaction score is completely misplaced. Reddit karma isn't maligned because it's a numerical score added to posts. Virtually every forum or social media platform made now has some similar system in place. Karma is widely maligned because it's obtrusive, difficult to ignore, and arguably engineered to enforce maximum social conformity. If you drop under a certain score, you become unable to post in certain areas, and you'll likely find yourself surreptitiously banned from others. If you want to survive on reddit, you have to tailor your posts around the idea of continually farming karma, or you get run out.

Here, people get obsessed over reaction score and stickers for no other reason than they care about the people actually handing them out. You lose nothing from a negative score, nothing happens at all. In fact it's actually quite difficult to deliberately maintain a negative reaction score assuming you arent some weird troll or pedo. Users invest a piece of themselves into these little icons, absent any outward incentive to do so beyond internal social clout. If that isn't an indicator of excellent community health, I don't know what possibly could be.

Seriously Josh, I'm sure it's annoying dealing with people sperging about the reaction system, but at the end of the day they're doing it out of love for the thing YOU built. They're doing it because the community YOU built is so damn successful, people give a shit if they're a part of it or not.
This is very well said.
 
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You could say that Null...
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...smoked a faggot.
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

(I did not thumbnail the image. Take that)
 
The worst thing is, the comparison between reddit karma and reaction score is completely misplaced.
Downvoting on Reddit suppresses a post with default sorting rules, whereas here if you get enough negative stickers, your post can end up highlighted. The Reddit voting system is engineered to make posts and users who don't conform simply disappear as their posts get buried and soon they find themselves unable to post anywhere.

Not hiding posts with lots of negative stickers but instead making them more prominent completely separates the Kiwi Karma system from Reddit.

Which was a long-winded way of saying I :agree: with your post.
 
The worst thing is, the comparison between reddit karma and reaction score is completely misplaced. Reddit karma isn't maligned because it's a numerical score added to posts. Virtually every forum or social media platform made now has some similar system in place. Karma is widely maligned because it's obtrusive, difficult to ignore, and arguably engineered to enforce maximum social conformity. If you drop under a certain score, you become unable to post in certain areas, and you'll likely find yourself surreptitiously banned from others. If you want to survive on reddit, you have to tailor your posts around the idea of continually farming karma, or you get run out.

Here, people get obsessed over reaction score and stickers for no other reason than they care about the people actually handing them out. You lose nothing from a negative score, nothing happens at all. In fact it's actually quite difficult to deliberately maintain a negative reaction score assuming you arent some weird troll or pedo. Users invest a piece of themselves into these little icons, absent any outward incentive to do so beyond internal social clout. If that isn't an indicator of excellent community health, I don't know what possibly could be.

Seriously Josh, I'm sure it's annoying dealing with people sperging about the reaction system, but at the end of the day they're doing it out of love for the thing YOU built. They're doing it because the community YOU built is so damn successful, people give a shit if they're a part of it or not.
I reacted with :winner:

To expand on that last paragraph: we're sperging about this because being able to see reacts to our posts was useful to seeing how active threads we recently posted in were. Null may not want the site to be used that way, but as someone else posted earlier, Null shouldn't be surprised if someone eats the sandwich sideways after he makes it.
 
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