The Last of Us Franchise - Because it's apparently a franchise now. This thread has been double-DMCA’d by Sony Interactive Entertainment.

For the same reason we've still been reading AoT even though it's turned into an incomprehensible clusterfuck about Nazis, time-travel, and pigs.

They've invested too much time into it, and they love a good trainwreck.

Naaaaaah, unless a lot changed on the last 2-3 months (been busy with finals and shit), AoT is just getting a Nordic Lelouch ending. I know what I am expecting to happen but it's all about the ride and clearing points. You might argue some conflicts get resolved with a handwave and I can agree with that to an extend.

The second point is more like it. They just want to end their Mr Bones Wild Ride.
 
Try Fallout New Vegas for the PS3 (if he's an RPG fan), the Saints Row series, or RDR1/2. Saints Row in particular despite it's map size emphasizes exploration and random events and is like a more fun/chaotic GTA.
If you have a PC, I would do FO:NV on that. The game is a buggy mess, and being able to fix Bethesda's mistakes for them at least makes the game more playable.
 
Here is something I was thinking about... How sequencing the events differently would impact reaction to this game. We have here our PC killed in front of his surrogate daughter and fan favorite character in the first 2 hours, followed by some gameplay as Ellie, then having to take control of Abby with some "but she's not actually bad/she has reasons" to try to get you to like her.

Instead (and this will go to marketing as well) you start as Abby and you play the first 1/3rd of the game as her. Give her some sympathetic qualities, kinda a cool person, while also dropping hints about Joel killing her dad, enough that fans can go "I wonder how they will react/meet each other". Then you can have them meet, and then she starts to beat him down... Wait, wtf is going on?

Then you have the rest of the game playing as Ellie, having Joel interactions leading up to the Joel in One scene. Joel dies either brutally like he does in the game proper or better, doing the one last heroic sacrifice, and Ellie starts on a quest to kill Abby. Either kill Abby or at the end or have her escape without Ellie going "no, just go", setting up a 3rd game hook.

Of course, that requires more effort and thought than "lol Joel's dead, here is a bit of backstory, now like Abby bigot". Literally reframing scenes and changing a few things would probably be alter perception somewhat.

I keep thinking of Assassins Creed 3. You play as Haytham, he's cool, makes friends with all these historical characters, and then it's revealed he's a Templar, and now he's the villain. Same idea. Here is Abby, she's kinda cool, you play as her for a while... And now she's unquestionably the villain, go get her.
 
Because of that reason I have a friend who really wants to love this game because evil 4chan hates it arguing that it shouldn't be allowed to stream singleplayer games because they're a "one time experience", and having people stream them robs sales from the developers. Like jesus christ, stop sucking the dicks of the triple A studios
Didn't know all those single player games with branching paths and a variety of ways to build a character were one time experiences. I've been playing Grim Dawn wrong this whole time. :story:
 
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Too many fingers.

Seriously wondering who would want this merch now.
 
So I'm watching an LP of this game and I'm at the part where Ellie gets captured by one of the guys who were present during Joel's execution.

First off, if this guy recognizes her then why the fuck does he take her in alive? She screamed "you're dead" and has already been shown to pursue you after you left her alive the first time.

He captures her and some other guy comes in and says the new blanket order from above is to kill all trespassers on sight, so this unnamed guy gets ready to execute Ellie. But this other guy that fucking recognizes Ellie is like "no what if she has info." But now not only are you dealing with someone who threatened vengeance and has shown to be pursuant in that vengeance, but you are now also being commanded by a higher up to kill her anyway.

All that isn't taking into account that Tommy is also active and has been shown to be brutally pursuing them as well. Assuming they haven't captured Tommy yet they may very well attribute that brutality to Ellie, giving even less reason to keep her alive.

This game makes no fucking sense.
 
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He losses the use of one leg, he has only one eye left, his wife divorces him and last we see of him he's emotionally blackmailing Ellie into leaving Dina to go look for Abby again across the country

Holy shit I forgot about this. It renders the entire first half of the game pointless, since the player is told to search for Tommy by Maria and to bring him back to her. The first half of the game is fucking pointless because they end up divorcing, which not only is awful from a narrative standpoint, but makes the player feel like they wasted their time... Wait, that's a theme here with the ending too, isn't it...
 
Edit to not doublepost: also a journalist having the balls to say that "you did not play the game" get fucked cunt your kind has a extensive record of never ever finishing a game
The funny part about that is that in this day and age, people don't need to play the game to know they hate it. That first stream by Xqc or whatever had 50k people watching it and they end. Mutahar had 10k watching when he bailed out. Nearly a day later I checked and at least a couple other people streaming the game had almost 20k people watching. TLOU2 was supposed to be a huge game, so tens of thousands of people are tuning in to watch their favorite stream play it. Sure some few hundred or even a few thousand might be going from stream to stream to see people react to the juicy bits. But overall tens of thousands of people are learning the story of the game without ever playing it, and hating the game and deciding to never buy it instead of being eager to try playing it themselves.
 
Uwe Boll also knew when to throw in the towel. He eventually left the movie industry and instead he and his wife are actually successful small time restaurateurs.

But more on topic, the only reason the game is even getting released NOW is because of the massive leak. Imagine if the leak didn't happen - TLOU2 had a non-zero chance of being the next vaporware game after Halflife 3.
I thought he quit because his movies were just exploiting a loophole in German tax law that was closed?

Whoever called this "The Last Jedi of Vidya" deserves a medal and a bottle of Talisker 18. Has there ever been a game so nakedly (hah) hostile to the player just for wanting to enjoy it? Much like TLJ, by about midway through the first act, you've been aggressively trained into not caring what happens to any of these people.

Although now I want a cut where Rose Tico charges through a door and is killed off immediately by a blaster bolt to the face out of nowhere.
If I was a game developer, I'd include tranny sex for loved characters too just to troll and rile up gamers.
Personally I think it would be more fun to troll the sort of people who get mad when there isn't a tranny.

This makes me wonder if Druckman will get #metoo'd after blowing up the fucking morality boat the feminist retards were riding on and also setting fire to it with this game.

Like I can't even think of a sex scene in a game that matches it, even the witcher 3 was more tame(and also had their women look like women).
Druckman's controlling nature, overwhelming desire towards inflicting suffering, lack of an actual creative spark, and the astonishingly tone-deaf nature of his pandering make me think that he may be an actual psychopath with actual rape victims. Although a Sony executive covertly drumming up false sexual accusations against him as an excuse to get rid of him isn't unlikely either.

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Gems from Twitter. Troy's is particularly dumb and tone deaf.
Not going to lie, I actually thought that this was a right-wing troll at first. Horseshoe theory in action here.

I bet this is Druckman's attempt at a call-back.
SEE THE PARALLELS. IT'S ALL CONNECTED. ELLIE LITERALLY AS BAD AS DAVID.
Or else anybody competent enough to create a new boss fight was driven off by that point.

I don't know how but the franchise as a whole already feels used up before the second entry even comes out
A sequel never needed to exist for any reason besides money. But I guess that's why you used the soulless corp-speak word "franchise" to describe it, isn't it?

So, what's more likely - Druckmann has at least 5gb of kiddie porn on his computer or that he's raped at least 5 women?
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In case people needed more proof that game companies wheels out bagfuls of cash for positive reviews to game journos.

Game journos can't burn fast enough.
Bagfuls? No, like members of Congress, the real scandal is just how cheaply they can be bought.

The really ironic thing about Druckmann wanting to make a film and impress hollywood is how he explicitly shits all over what made the first entry great, and that if this were an actual film and actual critics saw this, it would get eviscerated to hell and back and I'd doubt if it would have even made half of its budget.

The poor characterization, the plot holes, the weird and nonsensical sex, the absolutely retarded ending, basic bitch message, and completely bunk artsy shot near the end. Roger Ebert would have given it 1 and a half stars.

Neil Druckmann hates you and he wants you to know that while he shoves his slop of a game down your mouth as he cries in pain about not being able to make REAL movies.
It's all cargo cult-ism by somebody who wants to be rich and famous and part of the Hollywood social scene and exercise directorial control over beautiful actresses he can molest, but doesn't have looks, charm, or talent.

Yeah...true and honest women ALWAYS bend over the sawhorse to take it in the asshole when the guy they are with suddenly has an urge to fuck. Sorry all the virgins who produced this shit, but anal sex is NOT the go-to act the first time a man and a woman hook up. And that leaked scene was buttfucking, no question about it. Dude looks like a lady.
It's the Druckman stand-in that's doing it, to the character we spent most of the game playing and thus in theory identify with. Druckman wants us to imagine being fucked by him, and since the player can be either male or female, anal sex is the most broadly applicable.

You say that but I don’t remember Religious Rightism tearing down statues of George Washington.
The United States has a severe shortage of pagan idols in public spaces to tear down, but if it didn't, the Religious Right absolutely would have had rioters destroying them.

I personally hate when franchises advance their plots via secondary media.

The same sort of stuff happened to Assassin’s Creed, and it only made the plots lines worse.

I understand that novels have a shorter turnaround period than video games, but for goodness sakes, use them to expand the universe laterally!
I absolutely never ever read this kind of shit. It's almost always crapped out cheap and under deadline for hire by some worthless hack who doesn't give a shit and certainly doesn't share the creative vision of the original developers. If it is put out by the original developers, their talent isn't usually in writing anyway so it still is unlikely to be good.
 
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