The Last of Us Franchise - Because it's apparently a franchise now. This thread has been double-DMCA’d by Sony Interactive Entertainment.

  • 🐕 I am attempting to get the site runnning as fast as possible. If you are experiencing slow page load times, please report it.
Wasn't she already pretending to be lesbian for good points? I guess she's getting higher on the progressive stack.
She's always had short hair but I don't think she ever made it "official." Her brother, on the other hand, came out as bi in 2014. (Two left-of-Mao LGBTQIAP+ siblings in one family? Zomg how could that be?)
 
  • Like
Reactions: BlazikenLover
I finally got around to playing Wolfenstein: The New Colossus and after playing it and seeing how bad it was first hand I couldn't help but notice how similar it felt to TLOU2 in terms of shitting the bed. Both games are about 3 hours long without cutscenes and forced walking and talking segments. Both improved some things about combat but there's only like 2 hours of combat because the game is 90% cutscenes. Both games have stories that don't even seem neccessary to tell and have very little impact outside of one character death. Both games beat you over the head with preachy social justice shit that feels completely out of place compared to the first games.

The worst part is this. Both games have heavily pregnant women partaking in combat, and TLOU2 still does it worse. At least Wolfenstein is cheesy so it doesn't matter, in TLOU2 it is just plain retarded. There are 2 games I can think of this happening in total, and TLOU2 still ends up being the shittiest of the options. You'd think they would be smart enough to avoid this kind of stuff since New Colossus came out 3 years before TLOU2 and bombed hard enough to basically kill the series.
 
You're right, I couldn't put my finger on it. He looks diminished, somehow.... I think they want this to be the definitive edition for the people who watch the tv show without knowing anything about the game.

"He looks...weaker/smaller...somehow"
Except its for real.
Jesus, he's never going to stop being a crybaby over his piece of shit game, is he?

Paul Fag is still mad over his 2016 Ghostbusters movie being a failure that even Sony recognised as so (hence why Afterlife was made).

These people are just good at holding grudge, its the motiff of leftist ideology
Cuckmann couldn't resist butting into something and making it about himself, this time in response to Ron Gilbert taking an absence from social media, due to criticism about Return to Monkey Island:
nothing to do with TLoU but what happened with Return to Monkey Island?

Im kind of scared for it now, ngl.
The worst part is this. Both games have heavily pregnant women partaking in combat, and TLOU2 still does it worse. At least Wolfenstein is cheesy so it doesn't matter, in TLOU2 it is just plain retarded. There are 2 games I can think of this happening in total, and TLOU2 still ends up being the shittiest of the options. You'd think they would be smart enough to avoid this kind of stuff since New Colossus came out 3 years before TLOU2 and bombed hard enough to basically kill the series.

Honestly, New Colossus kind of killed the series too. They had Young Blood as a last ditch effort to save it but it only solidified its fate.

Doesnt help killing nazis isnt what it used to be anymore, the concept got both too cartoonish and too loose that it means "anyone I dont like". Nazis arent something that both sides agreed that were evil and needed to be destroyed and didnt relate whatsoever to the other side no matter what.
 
Honestly, New Colossus kind of killed the series too. They had Young Blood as a last ditch effort to save it but it only solidified its fate.

Doesnt help killing nazis isnt what it used to be anymore, the concept got both too cartoonish and too loose that it means "anyone I dont like". Nazis arent something that both sides agreed that were evil and needed to be destroyed and didnt relate whatsoever to the other side no matter what.
That's what I meant. You would think they would learn from the example of New Colossus bombing and basically killing its series, but instead they did a ton of the same stupid things in TLOU2.
 
nothing to do with TLoU but what happened with Return to Monkey Island?

Im kind of scared for it now, ngl.

The Return to Monkey Island thread has more info, but the basic explanation is that the game was revealed to have an artstyle that people didn't like, at all. In response to those comments, Ron Gilbert went full manchild mode, and said that he won't be commenting about the game until it's release, saying that those comments are toxic.

And then Cuckmann decided to butt-in, to make that controversy about himself as well.
 
Honestly, New Colossus kind of killed the series too. They had Young Blood as a last ditch effort to save it but it only solidified its fate.

Doesnt help killing nazis isnt what it used to be anymore, the concept got both too cartoonish and too loose that it means "anyone I dont like". Nazis arent something that both sides agreed that were evil and needed to be destroyed and didnt relate whatsoever to the other side no matter what.
It was quite cartoonish back in the day as well, with nazi zombies, cyborg Hitler, and sorcerers.

What I think happened is the nazis as an enemy got emasculated. Every nazi is portrayed as an oaf and as useless. There's also way too much cutscenes wasted on scenes that do nothing for the plot, and what plot is there is nonsensical.

In my ideal New Colossus the useless nazi bitch from the first game gets killed in the first mission as BJ blows up the nazi carrier. The destruction of the carrier and the destruction to deathhead's lair leads to armed US resistance against the occupying nazis and their puppet government.

To ensure peace and order high command in Berlin sends a small unit of 7 or so "supersoldiers" to lead the efforts to crush all resistance.

These 7 men and women become the main antagonists and opposition against BJ. They're unhinged sociopaths, but also highly skilled and very dangerous. Sort of similar to the band of mercs every metal gear solid game introduced.

This means every main mission ends with a unique and exciting boss fight. Every boss also has quirks for their soldiers, meaning the enemies in the game are varied

Cut out the part with BJ's dad being a fat drunken redneck that forces BJ to shoot his dog, kills his mother, then gets murdered by BJ. Can include that BJ grew up impoverished and in a society where there is deep racial animosity, but don't turn anyone into a stereotype.
 
Cut out the part with BJ's dad being a fat drunken redneck that forces BJ to shoot his dog, kills his mother, then gets murdered by BJ. Can include that BJ grew up impoverished and in a society where there is deep racial animosity, but don't turn anyone into a stereotype.
That shit was so pointless, we didn't need any more reason for BJ to despise Nazis after every atrocity he had seen in the games (be it the abominations they created, the eldritch horrors they unleash, watching Feargus/Wyatt get slowly mutilated by Deathshead, or any of the real life shit they've done). I enjoyed Wolfenstein for its over the top weapons & setting, not watching some asshole beat his wife (I don't care if money was supposed to be involved, an antisemite marrying a Jewish woman in the 1910s is asinine) & kid while forcing the kid to shoot his dog.

BJ should've died at the end of The New Order, at least then I wouldn't have to see him somehow survive getting his head cut off by putting some stupid ring on the neck of a super soldier body. I'm supposed to believe that glorified choker allows him to eat and breath as if nothing happened (don't get me started on that gadget that allows him to squeeze through pipes, is his body now made of rubber?)?

After TNC and the horrible twins in Youngblood (and ripping off Operation Cinder from Star Wars), I have no hope for this series.
 
That shit was so pointless, we didn't need any more reason for BJ to despise Nazis after every atrocity he had seen in the games (be it the abominations they created, the eldritch horrors they unleash, watching Feargus/Wyatt get slowly mutilated by Deathshead, or any of the real life shit they've done). I enjoyed Wolfenstein for its over the top weapons & setting, not watching some asshole beat his wife (I don't care if money was supposed to be involved, an antisemite marrying a Jewish woman in the 1910s is asinine) & kid while forcing the kid to shoot his dog.

BJ should've died at the end of The New Order, at least then I wouldn't have to see him somehow survive getting his head cut off by putting some stupid ring on the neck of a super soldier body. I'm supposed to believe that glorified choker allows him to eat and breath as if nothing happened (don't get me started on that gadget that allows him to squeeze through pipes, is his body now made of rubber?)?

After TNC and the horrible twins in Youngblood (and ripping off Operation Cinder from Star Wars), I have no hope for this series.
I really detested the BJ childhood scenes. It's completely over the top and does nothing for the story. I guess it's there so that the writer can whinge more about racism and airing out their father issues.
More competently they would as I said perhaps show that BJ grew up rather impoverished, his mother and father arguing because of money, his dad having to teach him how to hunt at a young age so that they had food on the table.
This then ties into the story as the leader of occupied America is a sort of soft spoken intellectual similar to Breen in Half Life 2. He points out that under his leadership America has prospered, welfare policies brought over by the nazis has ensured that no family goes hungry or suffer from unemployment. But of course it comes at the expense of liberty, and it's built on top of a mountain of corpses. And in the end the american puppet leader is executed by the supersoldiers brought over from Germany, as it's the start of a plot where a coup is enacted all over the Reich to eliminate the old guard and implement the true ideal society, where might is right and the strongest take what they can.
Thereby BJ and his crew doesn't liberate the US through fucking magic, but instead events they set in motion become the catalyst for infighting among the occupiers, and the coup gives the US resistance the time it needs to shake off the occupiers without reinforcements from Europe.
 
The Return to Monkey Island thread has more info, but the basic explanation is that the game was revealed to have an artstyle that people didn't like, at all. In response to those comments, Ron Gilbert went full manchild mode, and said that he won't be commenting about the game until it's release, saying that those comments are toxic.

And then Cuckmann decided to butt-in, to make that controversy about himself as well.

1656966057147.png
These 7 men and women become the main antagonists and opposition against BJ. They're unhinged sociopaths, but also highly skilled and very dangerous. Sort of similar to the band of mercs every metal gear solid game introduced.

This means every main mission ends with a unique and exciting boss fight. Every boss also has quirks for their soldiers, meaning the enemies in the game are varied

You could say it resembles how the original worked with each boss at the end of an episode, you could easily call it a callback.
Cut out the part with BJ's dad being a fat drunken redneck that forces BJ to shoot his dog, kills his mother, then gets murdered by BJ. Can include that BJ grew up impoverished and in a society where there is deep racial animosity, but don't turn anyone into a stereotype.

They had to get the obligatory "Father bad" trope/message out of the way.
That shit was so pointless, we didn't need any more reason for BJ to despise Nazis after every atrocity he had seen in the games (be it the abominations they created, the eldritch horrors they unleash, watching Feargus/Wyatt get slowly mutilated by Deathshead, or any of the real life shit they've done). I enjoyed Wolfenstein for its over the top weapons & setting, not watching some asshole beat his wife (I don't care if money was supposed to be involved, an antisemite marrying a Jewish woman in the 1910s is asinine) & kid while forcing the kid to shoot his dog.

Because we really need more reasons to hate Nazis. Jesus Christ, what they think their audience is. We have been hammered over and over that Nazis were bad people, dont need to make them borderline cartoonish more than they already are in Wolfenstein.
BJ should've died at the end of The New Order, at least then I wouldn't have to see him somehow survive getting his head cut off by putting some stupid ring on the neck of a super soldier body. I'm supposed to believe that glorified choker allows him to eat and breath as if nothing happened (don't get me started on that gadget that allows him to squeeze through pipes, is his body now made of rubber?)?

Thats literally something out of Drake of the 99 Dragons. Im not joking, the master of the protagonist gets his head put on a machine but cue the scene after the boss fight and he is suddenly ok.
After TNC and the horrible twins in Youngblood (and ripping off Operation Cinder from Star Wars), I have no hope for this series.

Neither does Id to be honest, its clear that they seem to looking forward towards more Doom or at least a possible Quake reboot. Its nothing official but I legit think Id is putting this franchise to rest again, maybe to reboot it again in a couple of years when they feel the negativity around TNC and Y.B died off.

airing out their father issues.

MANY of these grew up without a father (or an abusive one) and they have, somewhat understandably depending on the circunstances, held some grudges but I see a lot using this an excuse to send anti patriarchal messages, as if ever father is just like their abusive/missing ones.

Its not a healthy way to deal with those inner demons. The best way to get back at your bad/missing father is by being the best father yourself to your child, and even then, do it because you are a good person and you love them.

But then again, Im motivating a healthy mindset instead of fanning those flames so people in places of power can use it for their own agendas.
More competently they would as I said perhaps show that BJ grew up rather impoverished, his mother and father arguing because of money, his dad having to teach him how to hunt at a young age so that they had food on the table.

Feels like God of War was only the recent example of a piece of media showing fatherhood in a good light. Kratos is a very flawed man but its clear he loves his boy, he just isnt very good at showing it for obvious reasons. But by the end of the game, its clear father and son are closer and trust each other with their own sentiments and secrets. Then again, the director had very personal experience by being a father himself by that point of his life. Thats a healthy way to project it.

We had the original TLoU where we had a flawed but still well intended father but...yeah.
This then ties into the story as the leader of occupied America is a sort of soft spoken intellectual similar to Breen in Half Life 2. He points out that under his leadership America has prospered, welfare policies brought over by the nazis has ensured that no family goes hungry or suffer from unemployment. But of course it comes at the expense of liberty, and it's built on top of a mountain of corpses. And in the end the american puppet leader is executed by the supersoldiers brought over from Germany, as it's the start of a plot where a coup is enacted all over the Reich to eliminate the old guard and implement the true ideal society, where might is right and the strongest take what they can.
Thereby BJ and his crew doesn't liberate the US through fucking magic, but instead events they set in motion become the catalyst for infighting among the occupiers, and the coup gives the US resistance the time it needs to shake off the occupiers without reinforcements from Europe.

Honestly, that feels slower but far more realistic...and I guess thats why Id didnt do it (outside of the fact they probably couldnt come up with a plot that engaging themselves).

Each entry could have been further and further victories in almost like a chronicle of sorts. Real sense of progression and excuse to keep the series consistently producing content.
But nah.
 
While it doesn't look as bad as tlou2's butterfaces, people justify tess' change by using the realism card
The stupid thing is I'm suspecting someone will likely defend the choice because "She looks more like her voice actress now", ignoring that the voice actress is now a decade older than when the game originally came out
 
Back