The Last of Us Franchise - Because it's apparently a franchise now. This thread has been double-DMCA’d by Sony Interactive Entertainment.

[mindlessobserver]

Jim Sterling releases his take.

The tl;dw is "the story of this thing isn't that great. Stop comparing it to Schindler's List FFS. (Oh and also have I mentioned crunch is bad recently? Yes? Well, I'll bring it up again anyway.)"

The thing about Schindlers List is it draws on largely historical events of a very horrific tragedy. Speilberg didn't need to dream up the unrelenting horror from whole cloth, and the context in an event that actually happened is what gave it its power. This is a game about Zombie Mushrooms. Trying to shoe horn in emotional masochism like in Schindlers List is a fools errand, and to compare it to Schindlers List are the words of a fool. But then, these are Video Game critics we are talking about here.

 

[StrawberryDeath]

this is for destroying the franchise

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Ah, yes, Animals of Farthing Wood... One of those delightful cartoons that look vaguely like they'd be fun and kid-friendly about, well, animals of Farthing Wood, but instead of being kid-friendly it depicts the grim reality.

The classic scene of the Shrike having killed all the newborn mice babies, and it doesn't give a fuck because that's what shrikes do.

This scene traumatized me as a child along with the hanging, undead corpse scene in the Treasure Island anime.

 

[The handsome tard]

You know, Im surprised that neither Tommy or Joel brought the fact that they had just saved Abby's life and that now she will just kill them like that? I dont think it would have changed the outcome but it would have forced Abby into the wall in terms of admiting on his face that he did a mistake or that saving her life doesnt change a thing, it would have shown how truly petty she is to her friends and allies (tho I doubt those POS would have cared their Abby queen is an ungrateful bitch, they all seem to be pretty petty themselves).

I also miss the days when we thought that Abby's section was going to be set in the past and Part 2 would do the Godfather thing by having Part 2 be both a prequel and sequel. It didnt sound perfect but by God...seems like such a better idea than what we fucking got. Hell, some thought Abby was pregnant with Ellen in the trailers given how the cultist lady was this close to stabbing her belly, as if there was something else she was threatening in Abby. I even personally had this theory ( along time ago when I still believed this sequel would be any good) that Abby would meet Joel during his bandit days and maybe come close to killing him but she would spare him. It would be a good dose of irony, like, this man will practically raise your daughter in a few years. I also imagined the "prequel" segments would probably have some sort of explanation as to how Ellen was immune, maybe Abby was exposed to something while pregnant that caused her daughter to build immunity and thus we would have witnessed the "method" to give birth to an immune and etc and then maybe Abby would die on childbirth and it would all be rather sad and depressing (I even imagined that it would happen in the same operating room Ellen would be on years later and that Joel saved her from). Perhaps they could also imply that Abby wouldnt have wanted Ellen to be disected and used (probably for nothing) for a so called "cure", showing that Joel did truly did the right thing at the end, fullfilling the wishes of Ellen's mother, perhaps as an universal way of returning the favor for sparing him...

But naaaaaaah, we got this instead. Fuck...

 

[BiggerChungus]

I didn't even like TLOU 1, but man, fuck Cuckmann.

 

[The handsome tard]

Sibling pre-ordered it. This should be fun to watch.

At least make the brat get a refund so sony doesnt get the money. Reminds me of my nephew wishing to get the game (even tho when the first one came out he was still in his diapers), I tried to warn him without spoilers while doing a Planet of the apes reference.

"Be careful, Lucas...you may not like what you will find."

And the reference flew right over his head because he doesnt watch them "old movies", prfff...uncultured brat.

 

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

At least make the brat get a refund so sony doesnt get the money. Reminds me of my nephew wishing to get the game (even tho when the first one came out he was still in his diapers), I tried to warn him without spoilers while doing a Planet of the apes reference.

"Be careful, Lucas...you may not like what you will find."

And the reference flew right over his head because he doesnt watch them "old movies", prfff...uncultured brat.

If I couldn't convince him to not get it in the first place, I don't think I can convince him to get a refund. Besides, he legitimately likes the gameplay; as he put it, everything besides the story is a 10.

 

[The handsome tard]

If I couldn't convince him to not get it in the first place, I don't think I can convince him to get a refund. Besides, he legitimately likes the gameplay; as he put it, everything besides the story is a 10.

I understand, as I said, I see the situation you are in...but still

"This was, indeed, a turd covered in cake frosting of the finest kind but that frosting was just so good that it balances it out. It made me feel like literal shit but everything else was peeerfect. 11/10"

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

Any bets on what people that have sunk too much on this shit are going use to rag on Ghost of Tsushima? I liked all 3 Infamous games and I want to see what they’ve been working on for almost as long as ND was working on this turd.

 

[Dysnomia]

Ah, yes, Animals of Farthing Wood... One of those delightful cartoons that look vaguely like they'd be fun and kid-friendly about, well, animals of Farthing Wood, but instead of being kid-friendly it depicts the grim reality.

The classic scene of the Shrike having killed all the newborn mice babies, and it doesn't give a fuck because that's what shrikes do.

So, what's TLOU3 gonna be like? I hope it goes for the "The Mist" twist ending, with the game focusing on Abby and the other person on the boat, and wether Abby is gonna turn or not, and when the other character finally kills Abby, the Army rolls along proclaiming they have a cure and are restoring order.

Poetic Justice for Abby's actions indeed.

Is TLOU3 a definite go? I would think part 2 would be the Andromeda of the franchise.

Now it just dawned on me, this shot of Abby makes her look like the bastard child of River Phoenix and Eddie Furlong.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

It was a contrast of one characters death in a video game vs. another with a similar desired outcome that failed miserably on TLOUS2 and worked damn well in RDR2. Shows that death, tragic and awful, can be powerful in story telling and that revenge is not always a fruitless enterprise but rewarding for righting past misdeeds.

If RDR 2 was written by Druckmann Arthur would've died at the end of the prologue and then you'd have played the rest of the game as Leopold Strauss or Micah Bell who'd have beaten you to death with a sack of adorable puppies only for us to then see them have absolutely no consequences for this. You'd also walk away at the end as you hunted them down as John Marston and go fucking live in Tahiti getting a blowjob from a native.

 

[Notgoodwithusernames]

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All 4 of those tropes are something that can be objectively proven

Broken Base
A lot of fans really hate certain narrative decisions made in the game. Some either don’t mind or like them

Base Breaking character
Abby is widely disliked yet some people like her (for some reason)

Overshadowed by controversy: The vast majority of conversations around the game are centered on certain controversies (IE crunch, the leaks, Sony’s pathetic attempts to suppress the information, the aforementioned plot developments, games also getting flack from the lgbt community)

The scrappy: as mentioned previously A lot of people dislike Abby

 

[verissimus]

Jesus Tyrone...bit much to call this the George Floyd of gaming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e59LGuZg5Lc

The bigots/sexist incels are running loose

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSONXmvwI48

 

[Pinochet Was Right]

Or if you want to stick with Druckmann wanting to put out a message against revenge, maybe have Abby look back on everything she's gained and just decide that she's over it. Yeah that's controversial, but I get the feeling that given enough time and enough positive experience, that anger and desire for vengeance might just die down. Have her look at this old man who's in his late 50s or early 60s and determine that it just isn't worth it and that her group should move on instead of fighting a war and wasting more human life.

How about this: after building towards a revenge climax, Joel ends up sacrificing his life to save the others including Ellie and Abby. Thus robbing the latter from getting revenge and at the same time owing him her life, giving her one hell of a moral shock.

I can imagine it, she being "you fucking old man what are you doing" and Joel going out like "I'm saving your asses, ungrateful bitch"

Took me 5 fucking minutes to come up with that.

I immediately know someone has trouble getting laid the second they start calling other people "incels". Mostly from my time on GameFAQs where the guys who used the insult the most were also the users that spent 20+years crying about being virgins and nobody loving them.

It's like the saying "only newfags say newfag". Ever since lefties found out about the i-word, it's been the favorite of soyfaced babyfat male feminists overcompensating.

EDIT: and whenever any Karen on the business uses it, it kinda smells like she can use "lack of sex" as an insult because she got her job by sucking schlongs.

 

[Richard29]

I am back after 3 days... So did this game bomb or sell well?

So far. Seems some people legit hate it
But i am curious if normies suckered into the game

 

[Noideawhattopick]

Druckman is a womanha

VG24/7 calls The Last Of Us II Detractors per "incels"

Jesus christ we getting something like this again?

 

[M3xus]

Even the niche indie channel I follow is making fun of it.

Somewhat related, is this the AI the Sonyggers are praising? Because that barely looks a step beyond the original Deus Ex's AI.

 

[The Penultimate Warrior]

This scene traumatized me as a child along with the hanging, undead corpse scene in the Treasure Island anime.

I still remember that scene with the hedgehog couple getting run over (she is too terrified to move out the way, her partner chooses to go back and die with her rather than be alone - in a cartoon meant for children), which led to a young me bursting into tears and my mum desperately trying to come up with a reason why they might have survived.

 

[Someone in a Tree]

Jim Sterling releases his take.

The tl;dw is "the story of this thing isn't that great. Stop comparing it to Schindler's List FFS. (Oh and also have I mentioned crunch is bad recently? Yes? Well, I'll bring it up again anyway.)"

I’m not going to pretend like I’m a fan of his (though I probably like him better than most people here), but the second half of the video in which he brings up contemporary reviews of Heavy Rain is spot on. And what he says about games journalists desperately trying to validate their position of games being high art also applies to gamers doing the same thing. So many people trying to convince the world that certain games are masterpieces because they are not fun.

 

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

Somewhat related, is this the AI the Sonyggers are praising? Because that barely looks a step beyond the original Deus Ex's AI.

Hey that's not fair. At least in Deus Ex the AI had halfway decent hearing and you couldn't cheese them by ducking.