The Legend of Heroes Series - Possibly The Most Underrated JRPG Series

[Golfing on the Moon 1971]

I thought Daybreak 2 was good, but I started becoming disillusioned with the franchise's writing earlier than most people after replaying SC and seeing how the issues were there from day 1 we just hadn't been overexposed to them yet, and then experiencing how awful Ao was, and then playing the overhyped CS3 in which nothing happened. After that I wrote off the main story as it became clear there would never be satisfying payoffs. I would say that Daybreak 2 being a "filler" game actually does better than most games in that it doesn't have any storyline that was built up to stomp on and ruin. Yeah, the villain is forgettable, but I prefer that to being utterly infuriated seeing the writers shit all over their story yet again.

Charging $45 for alternate costumes is obscene. Given how Trails week 1 sales in Japan have been holding steady at 50,000 for the past three games (as opposed to 100k+ during the Cold Steel era), I have to wonder if Falcom knows the well is drying up and is trying to milk the cow as much as possible.

 

[Estelle Bright]

What is the Kiwifarmers take on Sky 1st?
Hate it because it's a remake? Love it because it's better than whatever is happening at present in the story? Please do share your opinion.

 

[Slap47]

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What is the Kiwifarmers take on Sky 1st?
Hate it because it's a remake? Love it because it's better than whatever is happening at present in the story? Please do share your opinion.

The localization will probably be the deciding factor for people here. They are not using the old Xseed script, but apparently GungHo is made up of former Xseed people.
The localization hate seems to take two forms:

"Xseed was great, fuck NISA
"Fuck Xseed, fuck NISA"

So will assume that Xseed is just better.

I like the combat of the newest games and some of the quality of life stuff (quest directions, NPC conversation tracking, etc) so I think it will be good gameplay wise. We already know the story and world they are using is good so I see no reason to doubt the game.

 

[Estelle Bright]

The localization will probably be the deciding factor for people here. They are not using the old Xseed script, but apparently GungHo is made up of former Xseed people.

They are not using the old Xseed script? What makes you say that?
Most of Xseeds staff went over to NISA actually like Hatsuu who localized Sky FC SC Coldsteel 1 and 2, I'm pretty sure she did the bulk if not all of the translation. She was also the one that made Estelles character so different from her original form.

Everything I've seen suggested they will either use the old Xseed script or the boring original JP script where Estelle has none of her wacky lines.

 

[AWarmToiletSeat]

boring original JP script

Kill him.

 

[00R-Gundam]

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What is the Kiwifarmers take on Sky 1st?
Hate it because it's a remake? Love it because it's better than whatever is happening at present in the story? Please do share your opinion.

I love FC. That said idk how to feel about this remake. On one hand is good that they are bringing back the og trilogy(hopeful) but at the same time i feel they are gonna mess with the lines and change the script to be more "modern audience". Regardless of the outcome of the game, if its good then it wil make for a good entry point alongside having Estelle and her wacky shenanigans, if its bad, we will always have FC. I would like to see more of the game before giving any definite thoughts.

 

[Estelle Bright]

I love FC. That said idk how to feel about this remake. On one hand is good that they are bringing back the og trilogy(hopeful) but at the same time i feel they are gonna mess with the lines and change the script to be more "modern audience". Regardless of the outcome of the game, if its good then it wil make for a good entry point alongside having Estelle and her wacky shenanigans, if its bad, we will always have FC. I would like to see more of the game before giving any definite thoughts.

I have similar thoughts about this. FC is my favorite game in the series and it's truly the game that hooks you. All Falcom has to do is not do anything with the script and everyone wins. While I'm afraid for the censorship that could happen there is also a very decent chance that they will leave the script intact as to respect one of the localizers that almost an heroed while translating SC.

The game itself so far looks good imo, a lot more faithful and promising than most remakes that come out these days but I'm a bit worried Kondo doesn't pull a FF7 remake situation with time janitors rewriting the plot of the original.

 

[GloryToArztotska]

Best face portrait in gaming, hands-down.

 

[00R-Gundam]

I have similar thoughts about this. FC is my favorite game in the series and it's truly the game that hooks you. All Falcom has to do is not do anything with the script and everyone wins. While I'm afraid for the censorship that could happen there is also a very decent chance that they will leave the script intact as to respect one of the localizers that almost an heroed while translating SC.

The game itself so far looks good imo, a lot more faithful and promising than most remakes that come out these days but I'm a bit worried Kondo doesn't pull a FF7 remake situation with time janitors rewriting the plot of the original.

I wonder how they will tackle the cross dressing scenes. In my opinion they works as they are and any changes, i feel it would take away from it.

 

[Estelle Bright]

I wonder how they will tackle the cross dressing scenes. In my opinion they works as they are and any changes, i feel it would take away from it.

Considering around that time is when Estelle really starts to cement her feelings towards Joshua I doubt they would go the extreme woke route of making Joshua some weird twink icon. There are always schizos though that will shit up wherever I am with their blasphemy.

I can again bring up FF7 remake that also had a crossdressing scene and that was turned so gay it was rage-inducing. Cloud going undercover as a girl got turned into a full on dance section with a gay dude with a lisp.

 

[00R-Gundam]

Considering around that time is when Estelle really starts to cement her feelings towards Joshua I doubt they would go the extreme woke route of making Joshua some weird twink icon. There are always schizos though that will shit up wherever I am with their blasphemy.

I can again bring up FF7 remake that also had a crossdressing scene and that was turned so gay it was rage-inducing. Cloud going undercover as a girl got turned into a full on dance section with a gay dude with a lisp.

I just hope they dont ruin my nibba Olivier or make Schera a Black Queen. They all work just fine. All the fujoshis are gonna losing their shit with this game.

Also since i noticed youre new. Welcome to the farms and to the Trails thread. Remember that youre here forever.

 

[Estelle Bright]

I just hope they dont ruin my nibba Olivier or make Schera a Black Queen. They all work just fine. All the fujoshis are gonna losing their shit with this game.

heh, nah they made Schera look about 20 years younger but she's still the same chocolate gypsy you know and love. I don't even know how you would ruin Olivier when he's the exact type of flamboyant white guy that kocher would want. Except he's competent.

Also since i noticed youre new. Welcome to the farms and to the Trails thread. Remember that youre here forever.

Well see about that, I'm a 4chan refugee. My loyalties lie elsewhere but this seems like a nice place.

 

[AWarmToiletSeat]

I just hope they dont ruin my nibba Olivier or make Schera a Black Queen. They all work just fine. All the fujoshis are gonna losing their shit with this game.

Also since i noticed youre new. Welcome to the farms and to the Trails thread. Remember that youre here forever.

heh, nah they made Schera look about 20 years younger but she's still the same chocolate gypsy you know and love. I don't even know how you would ruin Olivier when he's the exact type of flamboyant white guy that kocher would want. Except he's competent.

Well see about that, I'm a 4chan refugee. My loyalties lie elsewhere but this seems like a nice place.

Welcom /fg/ refugee. I was once one of you.

 

[Estelle Bright]

Welcom /fg/ refugee. I was once one of you.

what's your story?

 

[AWarmToiletSeat]

what's your story?

Same as a lot of people. The 4chan culture became very frustrating, and having a productive conversation with anyone felt impossible. 4chan became a zoo whose only goal was to see which monkey could screech the loudest.

 

[Estelle Bright]

Same as a lot of people. The 4chan culture became very frustrating, and having a productive conversation with anyone felt impossible. 4chan became a zoo whose only goal was to see which monkey could screech the loudest.

I get you, though I definitely enjoy the schizo fun posting part of /fg/ the constant screeching over which arc is better or which shitty self-insert is literally more me definitely got really annoying. Recently there's been some users that are so obnoxious you could recognize them outside /fg/ like the Weissmanfujo if you remember who that is or rageanon that would chase any female poster to the ends of the earth spamming rean porn with their waifu at them on different boards. It's very funny and very autistic at the same time.

 

[00R-Gundam]

As a newbie to the franchise i cang comment on whats the best arc, but so far FC is Peak Trails. Currently playing SC. Eventually i will join the sperging just give me like 11 games more i think

 

[Golfing on the Moon 1971]

It is a remake of a game I have already played twice, so I am not very enthused. The first half of FC is very boring. I am not a fan of the artstyle of 1st. I wish it looked like Cold Steel or Daybreak.

I anticipate Queen Alicia's pathetic "Colonel Richard dislikes me because he thinks women can't lead!" line to get played up. The protagonists had no valid rebuttal to Richard's preemptive measures besides "hopes and dreams!" as if that would save their country from the conflict to come. And Richard was right.

 

[Estelle Bright]

I anticipate Queen Alicia's pathetic "Colonel Richard dislikes me because he thinks women can't lead!" line to get played up. The protagonists had no valid rebuttal to Richard's preemptive measures besides "hopes and dreams!" as if that would save their country from the conflict to come. And Richard was right.

Richard was right about everything and the games go on to prove him right.
The reason these super-fast ships started appearing in Erebonia was because the dumbass Queen decided to sell their one edge, the Arseilles engine, to the empire during the trade deal. Hopefully they don't turn him into some bad Hitler allegory. He's the best "villain" in the series.

 

[Flopper]

What is the Kiwifarmers take on Sky 1st?

Really hope they don't do time loop bullshit, based on what happened at the end of Kai.