The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[Betonhaus]

Honestly, just doing a fresh install would make more sense than trying to change the ubuntu repositories to debian repositories.

Obviously, but I would still like to know the answer

 

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Obviously, but I would still like to know the answer

Ubuntu and Debian do things too differently for this to be worth it, even if you had the know-how, you'd have better luck converting a plain Debian Stable system to Debian Sid/Unstable.

I wouldn't know if there are helper tools for converting Debian to Ubuntu, similar to ELEV8 that RHEL clones are using to help migrate installs of old CentOS to new releases of enterprise Linux.

 

[Betonhaus]

Ubuntu and Debian do things too differently for this to be worth it, even if you had the know-how

What would be an example of a difference that would make migrating difficult?

 

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What would be an example of a difference that would make migrating difficult?

Trying to downgrade newer packages to older builds with configurations neither provided nor supported by Debian.

So, breakages.

It's already a bit of a gamble to downgrade backported packages to the stable channel releases.

 

[ZMOT]

Was the mic working in the same port under another OS or DE? I ask because I once spent about four hours unsuccessfully trying to unfuck an audio driver. Turned out, the audio driver was fine. The issue was that my headset was plugged into a headphone jack, not a combo jack. I also just had a buzzing noise, because all that was being picked up was minor electrical interference.

one issue I had one was that pulseaudio decided to crank the input literally to 1000% or something trying to hear a flea fart. once dialed WAY down it worked as it should.

Moved to Fedora Silverblue (KDE version) because OpenSuSE seems like they're trying to make it clear they don't care about KDE.

what did they do this time? it's run by libtards, so nothing should be surprising.

 

[std::string]

So, breakages.

There's a pretty good chance that force downgrading an Ubuntu package to a Debian one would result in apt making you type "Yes, do as I say!" which is a pretty good indication that you're going to fuck your system up.

Also if you wind up force downgrading something like libc (whether accidentally or intentionally) then your Ubuntu packages just won't run anymore because they're compiled against a newer version.

 

[Betonhaus]

Trying to downgrade newer packages to older builds with configurations neither provided nor supported by Debian.

So, breakages.

It's already a bit of a gamble to downgrade backported packages to the stable channel releases.

Linux Mint 21.3 (not 22) is based on Ubuntu 22.04, and LMDE6 is based on Debian 12 and has newer packages. Ubuntu and Debian alternate on which has the newer packages with every biannual release

 

[Taser Confetti]

what did they do this time? it's run by libtards, so nothing should be surprising.

Not one thing in particular - just the fact that the KDE version has almost zero maintainers. I’m still butthurt about how they massacred Gnome 2x and refuse to use 3x.

Far as I can tell every disto worth talking about is ran by libtards. At this point as long as the computer is stable, leaves me alone and doesn’t literally try to inject me with troon shine I’m happy.

 

[Betonhaus]

Not one thing in particular - just the fact that the KDE version has almost zero maintainers. I’m still butthurt about how they massacred Gnome 2x and refuse to use 3x.

Far as I can tell every disto worth talking about is ran by libtards. At this point as long as the computer is stable, leaves me alone and doesn’t literally try to inject me with troon shine I’m happy.

if SUSE doesn't have enough maintainers to handle KDE they may not be able to keep up with the frequency of patches and updates, and decide it's better to just drop the whole system.

 

[std::string]

Not one thing in particular - just the fact that the KDE version has almost zero maintainers. I’m still butthurt about how they massacred Gnome 2x and refuse to use 3x.

Don't a lot of the KDE devs use OpenSuSE Tumbleweed? You think they'd step in to keep it alive.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

Lunduke talks about gnome's actual policy to ban anyone posting links to him.

 

[Susanna]

There's a pretty good chance that force downgrading an Ubuntu package to a Debian one would result in apt making you type "Yes, do as I say!" which is a pretty good indication that you're going to fuck your system up.

Didn't they remove this from apt after Linus "Tech Tips" typed "Yes, do as I say!" to the question "do you really want to remove GNOME?" and then posted a video complaining about it.

 

[Taser Confetti]

if SUSE doesn't have enough maintainers to handle KDE they may not be able to keep up with the frequency of patches and updates, and decide it's better to just drop the whole system.

It already updates slower than “Aeon” so yeah that’s why I decided to jump ship now.

 

[Wood]

What would be an example of a difference that would make migrating difficult?

Each Debian version is supported to upgrade only from (I think) 2 previous stable versions. Ubuntu and Debian diverged significantly over the years, packages may have different names, they might have different version eras set, there could be conflicting files, the depends/suggests/conflicts will be wrong (especially the conflicts), etc...

 

[Betonhaus]

Each Debian version is supported to upgrade only from (I think) 2 previous stable versions. Ubuntu and Debian diverged significantly over the years, packages may have different names, they might have different version eras set, there could be conflicting files, the depends/suggests/conflicts will be wrong (especially the conflicts), etc...

it doesn't sound impossible to identify all the packages that were modified by Ubuntu or Debian and dedicate a team to checking them.
at least, it seems feasible to develop a tool that can analyse the system and identify the conflicts.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

How is KDE Neon in comparison to Kubuntu? Want to find something normie friendly to try KDE 6

 

[Betonhaus]

How is KDE Neon in comparison to Kubuntu? Want to find something normie friendly to try KDE 6

It's a stable base with the latest KDE packages. I'd say it would be better, but join the KDE support forums so you can notify them of bugs you encounter so they can be patched.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

It's a stable base with the latest KDE packages. I'd say it would be better, but join the KDE support forums so you can notify them of bugs you encounter so they can be patched.

I'll give this one final go then so I can see how well Wayland works with modern nvidia drivers.

Edit: Never mind Neon doesn't support Nvidia drivers. I guess I'll either wait for Kubuntu to move to KDE 6 or try Fedora.

 

[TheDataHorder]

How is KDE Neon in comparison to Kubuntu? Want to find something normie friendly to try KDE 6

don't bother.
installing package updates on the damn thing takes eons thanks to their stupid updater.
you're honesty better off waiting for kubuntu to update to kde 6 or installing kde 6 yourself manually. (whether its via distro provided packages or compiling a stable version yourself)

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

don't bother.
installing package updates on the damn thing takes eons thanks to their stupid updater.
you're honesty better off waiting for kubuntu to update to kde 6 or installing kde 6 yourself manually. (whether its via distro provided packages or compiling a stable version yourself)

Decided to give Nobara another go for a laugh and at this point I may just troon out myself. KDE 6 with the latest drivers fixed nearly all of my issues and my gaming performance was mostly fine. Some stupid glitches, but it does give me hope

Still won't stick with it since Nobara is an obvious hobby distro, it's aesthetically shit, and some other functions specific to this distro don't work good.

Kubuntu using KDE 6 is my next attempt.