The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[Lard Shart]

At the low end, I just go for the cheapest thing that works so I don't really have to care if I beat it around, drop it, or whatever. That means they're shit but I don't generally care. I generally only use them for shit like web browsing anyway, and if I want to do "real" work, VNC in to control my home computer instead.

This is why I loved my Chromebook. Cheap, light, snappy. It made me realize I only really needed three things out of an OS: a web browser, a Linux terminal, and some basic stuff (file manager, video player, etc.). I don't really care which OS I'm using nowadays since they all have the three components.

Might sound contrarian but I like when the previously native programs move to web browsers, this way I'm not forced to use a particular OS, and it provides synchronization by design. Just put it on my Linux server which I use for basically anything at this point, there ya go I can use it on every device in my (virtual) private network; PC, laptop, phone (all using different OS's BTW).

It's a bit like how Rob Pike described his dream setup (although his version sounds more like "You'll own nothing and be happy", while I like running my own server).

 

[Betonhaus]

There are some decent high end laptops out there not made by apple. I would probably get a framework or something along those lines of I wanted to buy something new, that was high end.

Personally I think it's better to just get something used, a couple years old. You can look on eBay and see if anything decent stands out. I personally if I was going to get another, would probably get one similar to the 2019 Thinkpad. There is a series that has a bit higher specs and actually lets you have a backlit keyboard. I can't remember the name. But if I was in the market for another, and I saw a decent deal on eBay that would be what I would get. It's spending the same price as a crappy Chromebook, to get a laptop that would probably be 3x the price if you were buying something similar brand new.

you can get three-to-five year old ThinkPads for dirt cheap on ebay, as that's when companies replace and upgrade their fleet of computers. My X1 Yoga gen 5 retailed for $1,500 and i got it for $175 and it's been an awesome computer.

 

[WhiteNight]

I personally if I was going to get another, would probably get one similar to the 2019 Thinkpad.

You can often find good deals on barely used or even new Thinkpads on Lenovo's outlet store:

https://www.lenovo.com/us/outletus/en/laptops/?visibleDatas=698%3AThinkPad

 

[xXthrowawayaccountXx]

Call me prejudiced, but all the people I've met who didn't have at least a passing interest in and a desire to learn how the stuff they interact with every day works weren't much interested in the stuff "outside of staring at monitors" beyond consuming vapid shit.

Does it hurt when you shove your own head up your ass like that?

Even being generous and adding the "unknown" as being part of linux, it doesn't even top 4%. With a 5% margin of error, we could say your entire OS doesn't even arguably exist. Yet, somehow, that entire 23.75% userbase there does not use their computer to code, edit videos, play games, do any kind of work or personal related task because that's what your own personal friend group of five linux users think of windows users. None of this widespread discrepancy of users is the fault of a bad UI/UX experience, because everyone in the world expect you just logs on to tiktok and reddit all day with no other reason to use the computer.

I am still very much right about everything I said before, and people are mad because they need to cope.

 

[AnOminous]

As a Windows normie that sometimes or rarely uses linux, I'd like you to explain as slowly as possible why you want this stuff instead of something that works and gives you no hassle. Please take your time.

That meme is utterly retarded. It's just a source code dump.

apt-install whatever

Probably something like clamav. Or just don't even bother and don't do retarded shit that gives you viruses.

 

[Computer Guardian]

Does it hurt when you shove your own head up your ass like that?
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Even being generous and adding the "unknown" as being part of linux, it doesn't even top 4%. With a 5% margin of error, we could say your entire OS doesn't even arguably exist. Yet, somehow, that entire 23.75% userbase there does not use their computer to code, edit videos, play games, do any kind of work or personal related task because that's what your own personal friend group of five linux users think of windows users. None of this widespread discrepancy of users is the fault of a bad UI/UX experience, because everyone in the world expect you just logs on to tiktok and reddit all day with no other reason to use the computer.

I am still very much right about everything I said before, and people are mad because they need to cope.

Did you forget that Android (especially without the google stuff) is based off the Linux kernel, you fucking retard?

 

[jONALD]

Does it hurt when you shove your own head up your ass like that?
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Even being generous and adding the "unknown" as being part of linux, it doesn't even top 4%. With a 5% margin of error, we could say your entire OS doesn't even arguably exist. Yet, somehow, that entire 23.75% userbase there does not use their computer to code, edit videos, play games, do any kind of work or personal related task because that's what your own personal friend group of five linux users think of windows users. None of this widespread discrepancy of users is the fault of a bad UI/UX experience, because everyone in the world expect you just logs on to tiktok and reddit all day with no other reason to use the computer.

I am still very much right about everything I said before, and people are mad because they need to cope.

You WILL learn to use your computer and you WILL like it!

 

[Eternal Spirit of Light]

Does it hurt when you shove your own head up your ass like that?
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Even being generous and adding the "unknown" as being part of linux, it doesn't even top 4%. With a 5% margin of error, we could say your entire OS doesn't even arguably exist. Yet, somehow, that entire 23.75% userbase there does not use their computer to code, edit videos, play games, do any kind of work or personal related task because that's what your own personal friend group of five linux users think of windows users. None of this widespread discrepancy of users is the fault of a bad UI/UX experience, because everyone in the world expect you just logs on to tiktok and reddit all day with no other reason to use the computer.

I am still very much right about everything I said before, and people are mad because they need to cope.

TLDR: I'm a stupid faggot who can't use the CLI which is why I stick to GoySoft Windows because it treats me like a child

 

[Max Free]

Did you forget that Android (especially without the google stuff) is based off the Linux kernel, you fucking retard?

If only Linux Desktop developers would learn a thing or two from it.

 

[GNU Abyss]

Yet, somehow, that entire 23.75% userbase there does not use their computer to code, edit videos, play games, do any kind of work or personal related task because that's what your own personal friend group of five linux users think of windows users.

I don't think this is what I said or even implied. If you use a thing every day, you should familiarize yourself with it. I know how my washing machine works and I'm not an electrician. I know what to do if my toilet's water tank stops flushing despite not being a plumber. Water doesn't materialize in the tap, food doesn't grow in grocery stores, etc. Why is a computer's OS the only exception? It's not some impenetrable black box that only grizzled autists can fix. You don't have to stop making art or editing videos to learn how the system works, bit by bit. This isn't exclusive to Linux, doing it on Windows is helpful too (would save a lot of time for OS hoppers who go back anyway).

None of this widespread discrepancy of users is the fault of a bad UI/UX experience, because everyone in the world expect you just logs on to tiktok and reddit all day with no other reason to use the computer.

One could argue that streamlining UX in the direction of taking action away from the user and obfuscating everything behind "Oopsie woopsie, something went wrong! Sowwy " makes for retarded users a few generations down the line. Easier to use, sure, but the definition of what's considered "easy" will keep sliding toward ridicilous shit the more you keep people from learning how things work for themselves.

 

[Betonhaus]

One could argue that streamlining UX in the direction of taking action away from the user and obfuscating everything behind "Oopsie woopsie, something went wrong! Sowwy " makes for retarded users a few generations down the line. Easier to use, sure, but the definition of what's considered "easy" will keep sliding toward ridicilous shit the more you keep people from learning how things work for themselves

In a few generations "technomancy" will be a real skill.

 

[analrapist]

One could argue that streamlining UX in the direction of taking action away from the user and obfuscating everything

I'm crossing the streams here, and the few that grasp what I'm saying will reject it because iconoclasm is considered heterodoxy these days, but I believe that the Scriptural principle of idolatry was supposed to keep us from making visual representations of things and using unambiguous semantic means like language to represent reality. In the beginning was the Word, not the Icon.

My journey as a programmer began with QBASIC. Then to Turbo Pascal / Assembly. Then to Visual Basic, then to Delphi. I got hung up at the Delphi stage for a very long time. It wasn't until tragedy hit, and I had to depend on my netbook, that I really learned Linux. That's where I picked up the command line proper in my 30s. I remember the magic of learning how to compose pipes! Just months after that epiphany, I was performing using pipes. The time I spent with UI stuff now feels like a Dark Age, full of cargo cultism. Even after a decade or more spent making a living off my code, there were so many things I did not fully grasp until I took the Linux command line plunge. The old QBASIC DOS days came in handy because I was always great at Batch scripting. But that was a pale glimmer of what a full GNU system was capable of!

These kids, raised on pictures and not words, man, they're alien to me. There's so much they miss because they never perceive the proper semantic representations of language, just pictures of things.

 

[GNU Abyss]

I'm crossing the streams here, and the few that grasp what I'm saying will reject it because iconoclasm is considered heterodoxy these days, but I believe that the Scriptural principle of idolatry was supposed to keep us from making visual representations of things and using unambiguous semantic means like language to represent reality. In the beginning was the Word, not the Icon.

My journey as a programmer began with QBASIC. Then to Turbo Pascal / Assembly. Then to Visual Basic, then to Delphi. I got hung up at the Delphi stage for a very long time. It wasn't until tragedy hit, and I had to depend on my netbook, that I really learned Linux. That's where I picked up the command line proper in my 30s. I remember the magic of learning how to compose pipes! Just months after that epiphany, I was performing using pipes. The time I spent with UI stuff now feels like a Dark Age, full of cargo cultism. Even after a decade or more spent making a living off my code, there were so many things I did not fully grasp until I took the Linux command line plunge. The old QBASIC DOS days came in handy because I was always great at Batch scripting. But that was a pale glimmer of what a full GNU system was capable of!

These kids, raised on pictures and not words, man, they're alien to me. There's so much they miss because they never perceive the proper semantic representations of language, just pictures of things.

There's nothing stopping FOSS software from becoming a mix of the two where applicable. Some GUI programs are just fancy wrappers around calling a CLI utility with the necessary flags. Showing the user what gets called when they press a button after filling in all the inputs, if they wish to, would be a good way to bridge the gap. Quake-style console dropdown if you want to be fancy.

 

[Max Free]

I'm crossing the streams here, and the few that grasp what I'm saying will reject it because iconoclasm is considered heterodoxy these days, but I believe that the Scriptural principle of idolatry was supposed to keep us from making visual representations of things and using unambiguous semantic means like language to represent reality. In the beginning was the Word, not the Icon.

Linux is totally not a cult, btw.

 

[Aidan]

Linux is totally not a cult, btw.

It isn't a cult. But you should definitely check it out and try to get your friends and family into it and alienate those who don't realize how awesome Linux is.

 

[TheDataHorder]

It isn't a cult. But you should definitely check it out and try to get your friends and family into it and alienate those who don't realize how awesome Linux is.
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in the name of the kernel, FOSS and gnu utilities, amen.

 

[Lapsus of the bepsus]

i decided to write my own mullvad helper script instead of using the official client since it shits its pants without a systemd service running and i dont have that shit
if you ever find yourself in a similar situation you might find it useful: https://codeberg.org/listentomecomputer/mullvadctl
warning it does NOT have any killswitch functionality and is very barebones but if you're just lazy like me it'll do
you will need a few dependencies (jq json parser, wg-quick from wireguard-tools, curl) and to generate wireguard configs on the mullvad website and save them into /etc/wireguard

 

[analrapist]

CONFIG_NVME_COMMON=y
CONFIG_NVME_CORE=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NVME=y

This is all it took to change the gentoo-kernel installer to generate kernel images that don't require any initrd on my system. I am playing to Gentoo's strengths for sure, but yeah. Love this.

 

[Meriasek]

I saw some great KDE Plasma themes emulating Windows 3.1. Finally some good GUI choices.

 

[TheDataHorder]

I saw some great KDE Plasma themes emulating Windows 3.1. Finally some good GUI choices.

interesting information.
i have a dev vm where i compile random shit on it if i wanna see what it does. every few months i delete it and remake it to start fresh and every time i do, i like to use some weird and wacky DE or theme for shits and giggles.
i think i know what I'll be using next after MaXX.