The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[prollyanotherlurker]

Now Firefox is reading more than writing?

I've been seeing you talk about this for a while. What distro are you using it on out of curiosity?

And even completely unrelated to your problem. These days I would probably just drop Firefox all together. There is no real, good reason to use it now. At least in my opinion.

For your issue. I've seen people make suggestions. It's obviously something weird going on. Personally if I was going to try fixing it. The first place I would look would be about config. Well second. I would start in troubleshoot mode. Or at least mess around with hardware acceleration turn it off or on. Then go from there.

This guy knows how to tease an episode. The cold start clips include Brodie talking about programming socks. Arch turns you trans. And idk I literally just started watching. Once I get further it will probably be gay and boring. But who knows.

I ended up watching the whole thing. Right towards the end, for the last question. It sounded like he started talking shit about the gnome devs. And a part was cut out. Of something he must have said. I wasn't watching, to see if there was an obvious cut. But from the sound, that seems to be what happened.

He probably realized he will get shit from them if whatever he said was left in.

Jokes aside, I hate when distro devs put the neofetch every time you open a terminal

At least it's usually easy to take it out. Though the only ones I've seen do it. Are the preconfigured type, distros, like Manjaro, or popos types. I can't remember specific ones that do, but that is the category of distros I've seen doing it.

 

[Betonhaus]

>try to find the link for the repository
>find it
>404'd
>check the profile of the dev
>"Blocked user" (meaning banned)
FreeDesktop trannies never fail to entertain

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so is he going to put it on Github or something or just give up?

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

Damn just saw this. Probably worth another post instead of an edit.

Xorg fork. Tbh I don't know how much I believe it's going to actually last. If it's whole thing is just. We aren't dei. I need to actually watch. That could be lunduke adding his own politics stuff on top.

Damn. Idk if I don't refresh enough. I post. Then instead of being on the actual last pages. I get another popping up. With the there are more messages, do you want to see them? Thing.

This is only something I've noticed in the last day or two. But it keeps happening. So idk.

Edit: yeah. Definitely a dumb choice to make the video title that. When it could have been something to actually advertise it to people other than just the right. If you want that fork to do well.

Like the part about redhat standing in the way of a new xorg release. Instead of just dei would have probably been an over all better move if you want to actually get as many people as possible on the side of this fork.

 

[analrapist]

wtf is this? another way to mount drives???? brother wtf

It works fine. I actually used it on my current Gentoo-Systemd install. More as a lark than anything. fstab is better because your config isn't spread across one-file-per-mount, to say nothing of the fact that each .mount file takes several lines. But It Werks(tm)! Negrates only please. We don't want newbies getting bad ideas.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

It's obviously something weird going on.

Speaking of, FF is now back to writing ~20 MB every so often. It really irks me that I dunno what this mystery data is. If it was just browsing data then shouldn't it be KB?

> mozillabullshit.log

How would I stop it from logging after I've seen enough?

 

[dec05eba]

>try to find the link for the repository
>find it
>404'd
>check the profile of the dev
>"Blocked user" (meaning banned)
FreeDesktop trannies never fail to entertain

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They also removed all of his pull requests, including the namespace security thing. This fucking redhat IBM NIGGER intentionally chose to ignore security improvement:
also reminder what kind of company redhat (IBM) is:

 

[Susanna]

wtf is this? another way to mount drives???? brother wtf

Can I talk to you about your lord and saviour, NixOS?

 

[The Saltening]

Can I talk to you about your lord and saviour, NixOS?

NO I LIKE MY ENDEAVOUROS ADVENTURE

 

[volatile puar]

Damn just saw this. Probably worth another post instead of an edit.

Xorg fork. Tbh I don't know how much I believe it's going to actually last. If it's whole thing is just. We aren't dei. I need to actually watch. That could be lunduke adding his own politics stuff on top.

Damn. Idk if I don't refresh enough. I post. Then instead of being on the actual last pages. I get another popping up. With the there are more messages, do you want to see them? Thing.

This is only something I've noticed in the last day or two. But it keeps happening. So idk.

The dev himself made it clear that it would be "non-dei" in a very gay way, but Lunduke is just happy that the project is "non-political" so he's emphasizing it more than it deserves. It's primarily about continuing and fixing X11, with a very large first update to remove technical debt.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

The dev himself made it clear that it would be "non-dei" in a very gay way, but Lunduke is just happy that the project is "non-political" so he's emphasizing it more than it deserves. It's primarily about continuing and fixing X11, with a very large first update to remove technical debt.

Yeah. I just edited in that I see that now.

I really think that title, and way of pushing this story. Is pretty dumb on lundukes part.

For me, sure I like having non-rust tranny projects. But overall. It's probably not the smartest thing to label this project as. When it's just starting

 

[Betonhaus]

Is he calling it X12?

 

[Prj4MW8iPT3vmFM2rzDc]

I switched to nobara. ='(

 

[analrapist]

>try to find the link for the repository
>find it
>404'd
>check the profile of the dev
>"Blocked user" (meaning banned)
FreeDesktop trannies never fail to entertain

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I am shocked at how transparent they're being. The project moves and it's over. How childish is this behavior from them? This is Mean Girls Club tier nonsense.

 

[Betonhaus]

I am shocked at how transparent they're being. The project moves and it's over. How childish is this behavior from them? This is Mean Girls Club tier nonsense.

It would be hilarious if the X12 developer moves to another platform and the projects sick of tranny shit start also moving, killing off freedesktop

 

[Susanna]

You’re right. X11 is obsolete and Wayland still is missing critical functionality. What we need is a new standard everyone can get behind.
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[Betonhaus]

You’re right. X11 is obsolete and Wayland still is missing critical functionality. What we need is a new standard everyone can get behind.
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X12 would likely be backwards compatible with X11, assuming it doesn't faceplant out the door.

But imagine the salt if he just puts in all the changes he tried to put into X11 but was rejected and not only does it work and is stable, it does everything Wayland can do and some distros start adopting it.

 

[GrimPortents]

X12 would likely be backwards compatible with X11, assuming it doesn't faceplant out the door.

But imagine the salt if he just puts in all the changes he tried to put into X11 but was rejected and not only does it work and is stable, it does everything Wayland can do and some distros start adopting it.

A pipe dream for sure but a nice one nonetheless.

 

[Betonhaus]

A pipe dream for sure but a nice one nonetheless.

I'm not sure, how much work would it actually be to implement HDR or whatever the really noteable features of Wayland into X11?

 

[ToroidalBoat]

hey @GNU Abyss, @prollyanotherlurker, and @teriyakiburns

Found exactly what is going on, after I used fatrace in Terminal. That mysterious ~20 MB writing happened, and a bunch of this showed:

/home/[ToroidalBoat]/.cache/mozilla/firefox/[profile folder]/safebrowsing-updating/google4/goog-phish-proto-1.vlpset

So what is that and how do I stop it? BTW, that "safebrowsing-updating" folder does not show up in that file viewer of the OS somehow.

edit:

Oh yeah, also even with caching disabled, if I watch a YT vid, a bunch of this crap-o-rama shows up in the Terminal output of fatrace:

/home/[ToroidalBoat]/.mozilla/firefox/[profile folder]/storage/private/[some code].sqlite-wal

and

/home/[ToroidalBoat]/.mozilla/firefox/[profile folder]/storage/private/[some code]/cache/caches.sqlite-wal

edit again:

It looks like that mysterious ~20 MB of writes are a constantly updating blacklist of bad sites -- which would explain why the free space on the drive doesn't change and why it only happens when online, so disabling it may increase the risks of running into a malware site. That said, disabling that could be with going to about:config, looking up "safebrowsing", and setting the "download" related settings to false. But again -- and especially on Windows -- this could mean the increased risk of going to a bad website.

I still dunno how to stop the YT caching BS though.

edit yet again:

Going to about:preference and disabling "safe browsing" seems to work, but you may want a DNS service to block bad URLs after doing that, like quad9 as @GNU Abyss suggested.

(disable "safe browsing" by going to about:preferences and unselect "Block dangerous and deceptive content")

 

[Fcret]

In Linux news, an active X11 developer has decided to fork the project and is insinuating that the project has been allowed to languish primarily because of interference by Red Hat/IBM. It seems a little optimistic to me, but it would be really funny if he was right and a single developer managed to fix X11 and Wayland dies on the vine because they couldn't make it feature complete with nearly 2 decades of development.

Wayland has big money behind it - not just Red Hat/IBM but also Valve, AMD, Intel, and Nvidia now. The speed at which Wayland development has accelerated recently is a pretty good indication that it'll probably outpace X11 within a year or two.

Also I don't think it's really a conspiracy. The creators of the X11 protocol (who were the leads for xorg) have stated that, at the very least, X11 as a protocol is too fragmented and too rooted in 1980s assumptions about computing to really continue development. New functionality is difficult to implement due to the mountains of tech debt that have accrued over the last 30 or so years. Wayland is not a perfect successor, but it's better for 90% of users and ultimately development is always going to go where the users are.

In an ideal world, both X11 and Wayland would continue development but developers are expensive and you have to prioritize what you can get funding and support for.