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I am shocked at how transparent they're being. The project moves and it's over. How childish is this behavior from them? This is Mean Girls Club tier nonsense.
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FreeDesktop trannies never fail to entertain
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It would be hilarious if the X12 developer moves to another platform and the projects sick of tranny shit start also moving, killing off freedesktop
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You’re right. X11 is obsolete and Wayland still is missing critical functionality. What we need is a new standard everyone can get behind.
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X12 would likely be backwards compatible with X11, assuming it doesn't faceplant out the door.
But imagine the salt if he just puts in all the changes he tried to put into X11 but was rejected and not only does it work and is stable, it does everything Wayland can do and some distros start adopting it.
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A pipe dream for sure but a nice one nonetheless.
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I'm not sure, how much work would it actually be to implement HDR or whatever the really noteable features of Wayland into X11?
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hey @GNU Abyss, @prollyanotherlurker, and @teriyakiburns
Found exactly what is going on, after I used fatrace in Terminal. That mysterious ~20 MB writing happened, and a bunch of this showed:
So what is that and how do I stop it? BTW, that "safebrowsing-updating" folder does not show up in that file viewer of the OS somehow.
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Oh yeah, also even with caching disabled, if I watch a YT vid, a bunch of this crap-o-rama shows up in the Terminal output of fatrace:
and
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It looks like that mysterious ~20 MB of writes are a constantly updating blacklist of bad sites -- which would explain why the free space on the drive doesn't change and why it only happens when online, so disabling it may increase the risks of running into a malware site. That said, disabling that could be with going to about:config, looking up "safebrowsing", and setting the "download" related settings to false. But again -- and especially on Windows -- this could mean the increased risk of going to a bad website.
I still dunno how to stop the YT caching BS though.
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Going to about:preference and disabling "safe browsing" seems to work, but you may want a DNS service to block bad URLs after doing that, like quad9 as @GNU Abyss suggested.
(disable "safe browsing" by going to about:preferences and unselect "Block dangerous and deceptive content")
Found exactly what is going on, after I used fatrace in Terminal. That mysterious ~20 MB writing happened, and a bunch of this showed:
/home/[ToroidalBoat]/.cache/mozilla/firefox/[profile folder]/safebrowsing-updating/google4/goog-phish-proto-1.vlpsetSo what is that and how do I stop it? BTW, that "safebrowsing-updating" folder does not show up in that file viewer of the OS somehow.
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Oh yeah, also even with caching disabled, if I watch a YT vid, a bunch of this crap-o-rama shows up in the Terminal output of fatrace:
/home/[ToroidalBoat]/.mozilla/firefox/[profile folder]/storage/private/[some code].sqlite-waland
/home/[ToroidalBoat]/.mozilla/firefox/[profile folder]/storage/private/[some code]/cache/caches.sqlite-waledit again:
It looks like that mysterious ~20 MB of writes are a constantly updating blacklist of bad sites -- which would explain why the free space on the drive doesn't change and why it only happens when online, so disabling it may increase the risks of running into a malware site. That said, disabling that could be with going to about:config, looking up "safebrowsing", and setting the "download" related settings to false. But again -- and especially on Windows -- this could mean the increased risk of going to a bad website.
I still dunno how to stop the YT caching BS though.
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Going to about:preference and disabling "safe browsing" seems to work, but you may want a DNS service to block bad URLs after doing that, like quad9 as @GNU Abyss suggested.
(disable "safe browsing" by going to about:preferences and unselect "Block dangerous and deceptive content")
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Wayland has big money behind it - not just Red Hat/IBM but also Valve, AMD, Intel, and Nvidia now. The speed at which Wayland development has accelerated recently is a pretty good indication that it'll probably outpace X11 within a year or two.
Also I don't think it's really a conspiracy. The creators of the X11 protocol (who were the leads for xorg) have stated that, at the very least, X11 as a protocol is too fragmented and too rooted in 1980s assumptions about computing to really continue development. New functionality is difficult to implement due to the mountains of tech debt that have accrued over the last 30 or so years. Wayland is not a perfect successor, but it's better for 90% of users and ultimately development is always going to go where the users are.
In an ideal world, both X11 and Wayland would continue development but developers are expensive and you have to prioritize what you can get funding and support for.
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I think that's just how modern browsers are, they're relentless on disk I/O. For example, my system SSD's like to wear out, and usually I thought that it was just Windows being Windows. But then I used NirSoft's AppReadWriteCounter and found out that Vivaldi was being merciless on disk I/O while every other process, including system ones were nowhere near that. After moving the profile folder to the secondary SSD and symlinking it back, I managed to get the first sign of wearout on it ever since I bought it. Hell, if you look at the screenshot of the software, you can see that Chrome and Firefox are the biggest outliers, and trust me when I say that that screenshot only represents maybe a minute of R/W monitoring.
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GNU Abyss
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If you really don't want to visit bad websites, you can use DNS blocklists instead of Safe Browsing. Here's an example. As for caching, you likely can't. Youtube makes a lot of requests in the background and keeps shit stored as part of its telemetry.
Does pacman specifically mention these two conflicting? Try running it in verbose mode and see what else it has to say.
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Does uBlock block malware sites as well?
I guess the best solution with YT is to not use YT. At least I got the caching reduced to a few MB at most. Can not imagine how bad YT would be with browser caching enabled.
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Are you running this on windows? I mean, I assumed it was linux, but maybe you mentioned it a while back and I forgot or didn't notice. I mean, the /home/username is obviously linux/unix. So I really wouldn't worry much about if it is going to effect winows.
Anyway. I usually disable safe browsing anyway. Mostly out of my dislike , and distrust for google.
Definitely not a substitute or really, doing the same thing, but I recommend enabling https only mode. And just using common sense with the actual sites you visit, and links you click.
the dns block lists is also a good idea. You can even skip a bit of extra effort and enable a dns in your browser than does filtering, without having to even edit your /etc/hosts. Though you will obviously get a lot more control if you are actually setting up a blocklist.
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It would make more sense to call it X11R8 honestly. The underlying protocol changes for the big numbers and it hasn't changed in an Internet-eon.
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I think you can put entire DNS blocklists in ublock and it will work. Google telemetry and browser caching aside, you may be interested in using a DNS provider that is automatically managed to block malicious domains. For example, you could set your DNS up to be 9.9.9.9 (quad9) and chances are decent your computer would never interact with a known malicious domain.
Your browser may handle DNS independent of the rest of your computer, so check the DNS setting of your browser if you do this.
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Another ~20 MB write.
Must be some other setting. So I need to know how to disable "safebrowsing" entirely. Not just the mode, but the endless auto-updates.
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I think it may be as simple as going to about:preferences and disabling "Block dangerous and deceptive content"?
(but could also be disabling the download-related preferences mentioned earlier)
Must be some other setting. So I need to know how to disable "safebrowsing" entirely. Not just the mode, but the endless auto-updates.
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I think it may be as simple as going to about:preferences and disabling "Block dangerous and deceptive content"?
(but could also be disabling the download-related preferences mentioned earlier)
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Basic HDR support isn't hard. It's just reading monitor EDID and setting a linux drm api property value. The harder part is if you aren't playing a game/video in fullscreen and have to tonemap non-hdr content to the same range so it doesn't look weird. Since X11 has external compositors so that would have to be implemented in the compositors.
I dont know where this meme came from. When you run modern graphical applications X11 works pretty much exactly the same way as Wayland does, even using the same linux drm api and mesa gbm. It's not hard to add new functionality, Xorg code is actually pretty clean.
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Peak Code of Conduct commissar behavior.
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