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It’s also a genuinely very useful site indeed. You can download CAD files of many, many components, which makes it a very useful database when you’re designing things to print on a 3D printer.
 
prollyanotherlurker said:
If you want something super easy to write scripts for, that isn't systemd. Dinit from what I've heard uses a similar format to systemd.

Also, there is s6, and runit, They both work in similar ways. They seem like they might be complicated if you look at them from the outside. But really if you understand what's going on they're pretty simple. Instead of having a service file, they have service directories. With a file called run that is an executable, that starts the service, that can be as simple as one line that starts a program. There are some differences between the two. But they both basically do the same thing in some ways.


Personally. I kind of like the way openrc works like a shell script with functions. But I can understand why people would want something simpler.
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ya i downloaded artix s6 and ive been using it for a bit, i really like the idea of s6 and think its really cool but i wanted to learn how to use it
 
Akerman said:
That's what made me laugh about this video.

The modern web is so cancerous, with mobile-ificated "simplified" design that intentionally remove any useful elements so it can maintain an universal design across devices/screens that an actually functional website which loads fast is treated as a curious spectacle. How does it load so fast?!?! Wow, look at how much you can do on it, it's so functional! How?! - It truly is a mystery.
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Very interesting, but my GOD this dude's voice is GRATING. Otherwise that website is what I find to be the ideal website. Sure it isn't pretty to most (except I think it's great) but it's fast a fuck and practical, which is what really matters. I swear optimization is such an overlooked thing anymore.
 
Akerman said:
That's what made me laugh about this video.

The modern web is so cancerous, with mobile-ificated "simplified" design that intentionally remove any useful elements so it can maintain an universal design across devices/screens that an actually functional website which loads fast is treated as a curious spectacle. How does it load so fast?!?! Wow, look at how much you can do on it, it's so functional! How?! - It truly is a mystery.
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This is mildly reductive, that site actually does use (relatively) novel techniques for loading content fast, outside of not just being bloated with javascript framework bullshit or other modern web related cancers

I understand the sentiment but its actually worth making a video about considering its not always the kind of thing employed by even minimalist website types who abhor the idea of using anything other than HTML + CSS.
 
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Not a Linux question per se, but has anyone here successfully been able to boot NetBSD off an old Chromebook (more specifically the old, old XE513C24 "Kevin" ones)? Snagged one for pennies and I figured I'd turn it into a bootloader for the farms & cmus.
 
Trans Fat 41g said:
Artix is officially (finally) dropping GNOME from their testing batch due to overt systemd dependencies.
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gentoo's gnome developers are dead and have been for some time so i was reporting bugs with openrc and nvidia and they never got fixed. they're also currently unable to update to current and are a few versions behind upstream now. codebase is just too much of a mess to manage.
i think gnome for gentoo is just dead in the water, and unless void or chimera wants to pick up maintaining it i think chimera will just have to move to another DE.
it sucks but what r u gonna do, gnome has shown time and time again they give 0 fucks about user freedom and choice, and this is apparent when they strip out important accessibility features and shrug off anyone that needs them with "use case?"
kde devs tell me to stop being toxic to gnome but fuck these shitters. they make my life needlessly complicated and the more i delve into disabilities and accessibility needs the more i hate these people.
 
Mister Uno said:
Very interesting, but my GOD this dude's voice is GRATING. Otherwise that website is what I find to be the ideal website. Sure it isn't pretty to most (except I think it's great) but it's fast a fuck and practical, which is what really matters. I swear optimization is such an overlooked thing anymore.
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He's an archetypical soy tuber but that also means it's good insight into what the masses think on this issue. 'Older' websites are seen in the popular imagination as having been cluttered and ugly, so when a "100 year old website" (as he calls it) w/o expensive animations and graphics, desktop first development with optimization for it in mind and with a bunch of useful knobs and elements is "ackshully fast and useful" it's a huge oddity

I suspect it's some kind of Plato's cave type of situation, tube design websites with low functionality and minimal graphical & layout design that all inexplicitly run like shit in spite of having removed/hidden almost all their elements are all that people know of these days. I saw similar comments from people on a Terry Davids video remarking about how fast his YouTube pages were loading.
 
TerribleUser09 said:
And Brave with botnet and cryptomining in the background is lesser cancer?


It is just bloated WM in Docker.
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These are the actual cotroversies brave has had over the years. A lot of them come from brave taking alternative methods to make money. Like the practice of paying people with their attention token for their own ads, and removing the ones placed by websites. And other things like that. Personally I'm not really bothered by that, because I would rather that system be there, than the current one we have headed by google.

There is one that sticks out, that can sound bad when you se it. The one where they were using their webcrawler to scrape websites for data. And purposely avoiding detection. But then, when you think about sites like reddit, and others that might attempt to block sites from being indexed if they detect that it's a web crawler, it at least makes sense. How bad you consider that. Is up to you.

wafflesies said:
i think gnome for gentoo is just dead in the water, and unless void or chimera wants to pick up maintaining it i think chimera will just have to move to another DE.
it sucks but what r u gonna do, gnome has shown time and time again they give 0 fucks about user freedom and choice, and this is apparent when they strip out important accessibility features and shrug off anyone that needs them with "use case?"
kde devs tell me to stop being toxic to gnome but fuck these shitters. they make my life needlessly complicated and the more i delve into disabilities and accessibility needs the more i hate these people.
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Distros dropping gnome, and considering dropping gnome is some of the best linux new's I've heard in a while. (I don't know if gentoo, or the others are even considering dropping gnome yet, but the realistically should). When I saw the recent hard dependency on systemd's userdb I had a feeling it meant this was coming (at least I hoped this would happen rather than distros ripping out another part of systemd to use even on non-systemd init systems). The bsd's are probably going to have to drop gnome as well. I have a hard time believing it would be worth their effort to maintain a gnome fork, when they could just support better desktops.
 
prollyanotherlurker said:
These are the actual cotroversies brave has had over the years. A lot of them come from brave taking alternative methods to make money.
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this is actually one of my favorite parts about brave
i dont engage in their crypto stuff as i have no use for worthless crypto, i'll just mine xmr or something if i want crypto.
but i do really enjoy that they are able to fund their own independently scraped search engine and are able to avoid becoming another google funded browser, giving me much better privacy by default than almost any other browser that isn't explicitly a privacy browser.
 
i've been running devuan for about three years now, it's a fork of debian without systemd. any issues i've had with it are a result of it being debian-based and using old packages, can't remember running into any issues regarding lack of systemd. can't get any genAI stuff to run on it though and no hardware acceleration for blender 4 because of outdated AMD HIP packages but i can wait for the next releas since i don't use blender that much anyways.
 
The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
Phoronix: Multi-Kernel Architecture Proposed For The Linux Kernel (archive)
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Phoronix: Bytedance Proposes "Parker" For Linux: Multiple Kernels Running Simultaneously (archive)
Bytedance's Parker allows for multiple Linux kernels to run simultaneously on a single machine without relying on KVM or other virtualization. Parker leverages partitioning the CPU cores, memory, and devices for a partitioning-aware Linux kernel. Bytedance acknowledged in the proposal that its similar in some aspects to the recent Multikernel RFC but the design and implementation are completely different.
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It looks like several firms are now pursuing multi-kernel experiments for better dealing with today's high core count systems. It will be interesting to see where this work leads and if any of the approaches end up evolving into a suitable design for the upstream Linux kernel.
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ByteDance
 
wafflesies said:
kde devs tell me to stop being toxic to gnome but fuck these shitters. they make my life needlessly complicated and the more i delve into disabilities and accessibility needs the more i hate these people.
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I overall like kde plasma as a desktop environment, especially the wallpaper engine plugin. That might just be because cachy os with it feels really fucking good compared to other distros. That being said this is genuinely fucking retarded. Gnome is a giant pile of shit and gnome devs can eat shit. The kde devs who tell you that should shut the fuck up and get back to work. Nobody gives a shit about their opinions, work on the fucking desktop environment. You're hatred is understandable and I salute you for having the patience to deal with all that shit.
 
prollyanotherlurker said:
Distros dropping gnome, and considering dropping gnome is some of the best linux new's I've heard in a while. (I don't know if gentoo, or the others are even considering dropping gnome yet, but the realistically should). When I saw the recent hard dependency on systemd's userdb I had a feeling it meant this was coming (at least I hoped this would happen rather than distros ripping out another part of systemd to use even on non-systemd init systems). The bsd's are probably going to have to drop gnome as well. I have a hard time believing it would be worth their effort to maintain a gnome fork, when they could just support better desktops.
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I remember reading how the latest beta of Gnome has a systemd stub for non-systemd distros but I guess that's not good enough. It would be nice if those distros adopt Cinnamon instead
 
wafflesies said:
i think gnome for gentoo is just dead in the water, and unless void or chimera wants to pick up maintaining it i think chimera will just have to move to another DE.
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With all these distros dropping GNOME it appears that Slackware/Patrick Volkerding was on the cutting edge by dropping that piece of shit DE decades ago.
 
Whenever I think of trying Linux again I come to this thread and see that Linux users still can't even settle on something as basic as a windowing system without fucking it up, and suddenly I'm completely fine with Windows jank again.

(I kid, I kid. Mostly.)
 
Akerman said:
That's what made me laugh about this video.

The modern web is so cancerous, with mobile-ificated "simplified" design that intentionally remove any useful elements so it can maintain an universal design across devices/screens that an actually functional website which loads fast is treated as a curious spectacle. How does it load so fast?!?! Wow, look at how much you can do on it, it's so functional! How?! - It truly is a mystery.
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I didn't see the video, but the website owner must have forgotten to install every single adware client tracker under the sun like everyone else does. Hopefully he'll fix that soon otherwise visitors might end up with the wrong idea thinking that websites aren't supposed to be slow as fuck and probe their anus every time their mouse moves as much as a single pixel.
 
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