The new American right is worthless and is a failure by its own design.

Purging them would be pointless as they'd be replaced by people of the same ideology. So long as the universities remain as they are, the cultural left will continue to triumph everywhere.

Well yes, the implication is that they are replaced with people who are vetted to have the proper values, not that you just exchange one set of degenerates for another.

The right will absolutely sweep in the 2022 midterms because a democrat is in the white house and the economy is in the outhouse. The democrats don't know what they stand for and lack a unifying message, especially since the "defund the police" shit has backfired comically and the stain isn't washing away. Republican enthusiasm for the midterm is roaring hot, while democrats are largely lukewarm. Even in 2024, Trump stands a good chance of winning - particularly since florida gained electoral votes in the 2020 census and there isn't, I don't know, any expectation of a world-halting pandemic breaking out in the middle of an incumbent's election year - and if it somehow did happen again, Trump then is the one that benefits.

Trump won't be allowed into the White House again peacefully.


While I'm not quite sure if wide-scale "rigging" of a presidential election has happened since 1960, things like ballot harvesting are extremely easy when you fuck up the rules of voting to the point you just have to dump ballots in a designated mail box. There were definitely "anomalies" in the 2020 election you would not have seen without Covid and without so much TDS with left-wingers with extraordinary levels of butthurt whipped up by Twitter and the media, whether or not that was enough to tip the scales completely is up to debate. I can believe perhaps it wasn't, but I wouldn't be shocked if it was true either. But getting doomer-pilled over the last election to think that this concurrence of events can happen repeatedly every time there is another election is probably stupid, especially when your average Democrat doesn't give a shit about midterm elections or probably knows who is even on the ballot.

The idea of having Paul Ryan repeats is possible, but the base has been at war against those people for a while. I view it as a half-life with them with their strangle hold lessening each election cycle. Some of the most vehement anti-Trumpers took themlsevles out of office entirely because they knew they would get primaried out.

Again, the election being "stolen" is not really the issue, the bigger issue is that elections simply don't matter. Having Blumpft in the White House for 4 years meant literally nothing in the big picture. Everything kept getting worse in all the same ways. None of the institutions responsible were reformed or diminished in any appreciable way. At best, you could maybe say that having Trump in there slowed down the enemy a little bit. But I would even question that, as I think the left benefits from seeming to be out-of-power and having a really visible hate target to focus on and unite against. Under Trump we saw the wildest extremes of leftist overreach yet (COVID, George Floyd riots, etc.) and orange man did little or nothing about it.

And as irrelevant as Trump's presidency was, Republicans in Congress are infinitely more so. Congress barely even legislates anymore except through the thousands of pages long omnibus budget/spending bills and Republicans consistently fail to even try to stop those. The time Drumpf actually held one up and shut the government down for 6 weeks was the closest he came to doing anything that mattered. If he'd stuck to his guns on that one maybe we would've actually started going somewhere instead of resetting back to square one the second he left office, who knows.
 
Again, I'm not taking the bait, schizo. Go back to imagining giving Hitler head. I'm never taking you seriously, and no one else should either. You and SavetheLolis can be the first retards to sacrifice yourself in your imaginary revolution against the government. I'll be sure to laugh at you on the nightly news. No one cares what some autistic retards who don't even believe in the concept of democracy care about Trump or anything else regarding politics.
 
At best, you could maybe say that having Trump in there slowed down the enemy a little bit.
It did, because they wasted their time swinging at the Orange Man every day instead of chasing their insane pet projects. Control of the executive branch is great simply because even if Trump barely did anything useful/lasting in there, he wasn't spending his days consulting lawyers how to do end runs around the Constitution. For instance, we didn't have the Executive Branch suing states for not chemically castrating preteens, imposing loony "vaccine" mandates, appointed affirmative action pro-pedo judges to the Supreme Court (just appointing John Roberts but a Catholic woman/party animal instead), etc.

The latter's great too, since the spineless Congressional Republicans didn't raise a giant fight against the affirmative action justice. It would've been trivially easy to get the narrative going that "oh, it's not so bad since it's payback for Kavanaugh, so what if they won't actually stop her from being appointed" but nope. Crickets, and back to neocon virtual signalling for Ukraine.
While I'm not quite sure if wide-scale "rigging" of a presidential election has happened since 1960, things like ballot harvesting are extremely easy when you fuck up the rules of voting to the point you just have to dump ballots in a designated mail box.
2000 was rigged too, since a few hundred votes using the ever-reliable "voting machine" in a state governed by the "winning" candidate's brother (and son of the former CIA boss) totally don't look suspicious. Why a few hundred votes? Probably because Republicans are amateurs at that level of voter fraud since Democrats go for greater margins like they did in 1960 and 2020, so it looked way too obvious.
Again, I'm not taking the bait, schizo. Go back to imagining giving Hitler head. I'm never taking you seriously, and no one else should either. You and SavetheLolis can be the first retards to sacrifice yourself in your imaginary revolution against the government. I'll be sure to laugh at you on the nightly news. No one cares what some autistic retards who don't even believe in the concept of democracy care about Trump or anything else regarding politics.
Three elections in sixty years were blatantly rigged. Probably more would've been if not for retarded campaigns like McGovern and his merry band of proto-SJWs, Walter "Raise Your Taxes" Mondale, Barry "Small Government With a Side of Nuclear War" Goldwater. Who even knows what went on behind the scenes. Did "someone" force Ross Perot to drop out? Was Mondale controlled opposition so Ronnie Raygun could keep sending jobs to China and spending obscene money on the military? And that's not even getting into how they assassinated candidates before the election like the Kennedy brothers.

Democracy's a sham, realize that every successful pushback the people have ever made from civil rights to workers' rights to stopping retarded foreign wars like Vietnam was made through by your standards "retarded", "immoral" (actually moral, since rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God), or even outright illegal.

Now I'm sure you have some good memes about how badass Lindsey Graham and Dan Crenshaw are, or maybe Mitch McConnell atop his pile of skulls.
 
things like ballot harvesting are extremely easy when you fuck up the rules of voting to the point you just have to dump ballots in a designated mail box.
And then a based mailman throws them into a ditch and gets incarcerated thereafter for his good deeds done for MAGA. It was a messy and somewhat ad-hoc system that had bumps being a large expansion of the absentee-ballots system -- and so was the transition for most businesses to working from home. Yet in both cases, for all of the little growing pains and particulars to learn, the simple truth is that they went far smoother than any doomersayer could predict - and they're here to stay.

I would be willing to take more seriously qualms with the election system if people had managed to substantiate any of them - with pictures, with video evidence, with specific and targeted examples of abuse. I followed a lot of the court cases that managed to get beyond basic issues of "this apparently wasn't a problem with you guys until you needed a cope for losing," and even then there just wasn't much there. I think the one case in Wisconsin concerning ballot drop-offs contravened some amorphous text in a prior ruling, but there was nothing suggesting that the ballots themselves were somehow fraudulent or suspect. As it stands, "well, isn't it theoretically possible that something bad could have happened that somehow missed any and all detection and documentation, and it would benefit me grossly if it were true?" is the prevailing rhetoric.

States that bought into the cope have passed voting restrictions (that they previously dawdled on), and by and large for all of the whining from democrats that this somehow "interferes with democracy," those restrictions will stand and won't really have an influence on the overall outcome. Far more worrying (and wholly unchecked by democrats or progressives or the mass media) is that republicans have started overtaking state-level election official positions, and have seen fit to start rewriting shit carte blanche that will trigger lengthy court battles and rather seriously throw the validity of elections into question - such as the Georgian example of a bureaucratic official being able to completely throw out election results if they happen to feel that they are suspect. Serious political magazines and outlets have been raising hackles, but there's like a dozen people who read those total
The idea of having Paul Ryan repeats is possible, but the base has been at war against those people for a while. I view it as a half-life with them with their strangle hold lessening each election cycle.
Well, the base are also in a sense transplants. The base are dixiecrats brought over from the Nixon days, broadened out in the same way that the democrats have by getting a bunch of apolitical people into politics. Moreso the complaint with the Paul Ryan tax bill is that this faction already wielded significant power in 2016-2018, yet it lacked the political will to actually deliver anything to its constituents. It passed performative politics and not much else of note beyond that tax plan.

I don't expect that a more "unified" iteration of the party getting into power achieves much otherwise, since you still have the obvious internal conflict between conspiratard qboomers and people who just want to resuscitate the manufacturing industry or revitalize decaying infrastructure to both lessen reliance on international supply lines and offer better support to smaller towns and communities - both are slices of that base.
Getting anything done requires a lot of whipping and hog-trading and ear-marking even in the best of times, and it's a wide gulf between passing actual policies that improve the lives of their constituents and passing change-nothing do-nothing shit like "you can't teach sex ed in kindergarten," which is codified virtue-signaling. It also means that experienced players like McConnell, who know how to direct and use political will, are far more likely to get their initiatives done even if they're an extreme minority of those holding office.

Naturally, all of this would be changed if the people being voted into power... were serious people, with serious ambitious, and serious goals and items, who actually understood how the american political process works. Instead, you're increasingly getting entertainers whose political theory and understanding isn't much removed from conspiracy theorists on welfare or mid-30s neets edgeposting about how based an ethnostate would be while waiting for mom to finish up dinner. DeSantis is a figure to watch in Florida, since he seems to actually grasp how government works and how you get stuff done in-office. If he gets more and more of the reigns, it might inspire more people with real political goals to take the position of leaders, rather than ideology-free culture warriors looking to grift in the same exact way that AOC did on the other side of things.
 
Honestly, I'm becoming more and more politically disenfranchised with all sides, including those I previously I identified with for so long. I obviously won't be giving up my priors anytime soon, but as it stands, the right is fucking useless. Ezra Pound once wrote that a slave is a man who waits for his savior. This perhaps best describes the right especially in North America.

Despite being aware liberals and their leftist allies disproportionately control virtually every influential institution and profession from academia to technology, the absolute best the right has been able to muster are a worthless coalition of proud contrarians, people with elitist temperaments, shut-ins, (pseudo)intellectuals and those with nothing to lose. This coalition does not inspire the necessary class of professionals from scientists, engineers, lawyers and thinkers to form a solid front against liberals and the left. Instead, we're treated to terminally online grifters telling their respective audiences what they want to hear and offering nothing to meaningfully improve their lives. Of those who want something more, they all suffer from crabs-in-a-bucket mentality and squabble over minutiae at the expense of fulfilling long term goals. It just seems the right loves taking positions that are ultimately counterproductive and ethically dubious for god knows what reason.

An anon once suggested a book called "The Flight from Reason" by Scottish historian James Webb. Admittedly, I haven't read it, but it sounds geared towards the inner libertarian skeptic in me. Webb's thesis is that, in times of great uncertainty and upheaval, those who fail to adapt to the changing times seek refuge in whoever will harbor them, particularly cults and fringe political movements, and consequently become deeply irrational. The book is particularly focused on occultism in the 18th and 19th centuries, but it seems we're seeing the same phenomena unfold today. In most cases, it's a massive swath of retards too dumb, too old and/or unable to adapt to a changing world and a margin of grifters preying on those same people.

Honestly, it all fucking hurts so much and is too exhausting for words. The right is aware of all the problems yet still can't fight to save itself. People like Keffals and Liz Fong-Jones have more power than Stephen Crowder or Nick Fuentes ever could, and until that changes, we're going to see more of the same problems.
 
You're right on pretty much all counts, however, I refuse to adapt to this "changing world", because in modern nu-speak, a changing world is always a worse world than the previous one. Quite literally, the phrase means that you're going to enjoy the bugpod and owning nothing, while spending all of your time in an Amazon fulfillment center, and that's the best-case scenario. Most people are just going to be killed, Soviet-style, over the next 20-40 years, because there won't be anything for them to do when even Burger King is fully automated. We are currently in endgame phase, and the past half-century of politics have deliberately brought us to this point.

The only way the right (or, to be more accurate, anyone who isn't a foaming cryptocommie or neoliberal leftist) can win anything anymore, is through violence. There is no democratic solution when the system has been rigged for 100 years in every legal or non-legal way, and the unmitigated human failure that is universal suffrage, guaranteed that it would remain a failure. It doubles as well, as a nice little dog-and-pony-show distraction for the population, because they're still programmed to think the outcome matters, despite knowing that it doesn't. Complete corporate ownership of mankind is on the horizon, and these HIV-Positive, parasitic, degenerates on the left, have welcomed that with open arms, because, in their retarded little spiteful mutant minds, it's close enough to the communism they all want.

Until the non-left gets its shit together and starts killing people, the world will continue to worsen. I don't believe the non-left will ever get its shit together. A gaggle of faggots and pussies who own guns as a symbolic gesture, but would never use them for their intended purpose. "Death to America" is an empty phrase when you're shouting it at the corpse.

As you said, a slave is a man who waits for his savior. Every last person in this country is a slave.
 
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Despite being aware liberals and their leftist allies disproportionately control virtually every influential institution and profession from academia to technology, the absolute best the right has been able to muster are a worthless coalition of proud contrarians, people with elitist temperaments, shut-ins, (pseudo)intellectuals and those with nothing to lose. This coalition does not inspire the necessary class of professionals from scientists, engineers, lawyers and thinkers to form a solid front against liberals and the left. Instead, we're treated to terminally online grifters telling their respective audiences what they want to hear and offering nothing to meaningfully improve their lives. Of those who want something more, they all suffer from crabs-in-a-bucket mentality and squabble over minutiae at the expense of fulfilling long term goals. It just seems the right loves taking positions that are ultimately counterproductive and ethically dubious for god knows what reason.
Because for scientists and engineers, you can't speak out and join that coalition. You'll be fired and blacklisted. If you're a lawyer, you'll be pigeonholed into the "free speech lawyer" role like Harmeet Dhillon (or you're just a grifter like Nick Rekieta who'd rather play internet daddy). Thinkers? Same thing, you either join the few right-wing think tanks (who are part of Conservative Inc. and mostly just want tax cuts for large corporations) or right-wing colleges (most of which are fundie schools who teach creationism) or you find a way to grift.

But you're correct in that the right has too few intellectuals. There's what, Jordan Peterson? I mean by today's low standards I guess he's decent, but he's hardly revolutionary. I blame the fact that liberal arts is considered among the right a bad/commie thing so there was never an attempt to answer the critiques of communists back in the 60s/70s so now today you have all of their arguments as "academic/scientific concensus."
Until the non-left gets its shit together and starts killing people, the world will continue to worsen. I don't believe the non-left will ever get its shit together. A gaggle of faggots and pussies who own guns as a symbolic gesture, but would never use them for their intended purpose. "Death to America" is an empty phrase when you're shouting it at the corpse.
The populist right strikes me as very similar to the history of the left in Western countries. Read Orwell's Road to Wigan Pier and you can notice the similarities between today's "populist right" and the British left of the 1930s. But even in Orwell's day, the left had won considerable victories from women's rights to universal suffrage to building a strong union movement that after WWII accomplished nearly many of their goals in creating a powerful welfare state.

Maybe it's because I'm just a fellow traveller of the populist right, but learning from how the left won would do wonders for success. But instead the right hates unions, thinks Hitler and the KKK were leftists, and believes people will be won over with promises of Jesus, tax cuts, and silly arguments like "Democrats are the real racists" and "if this were conservatives doing it, you wouldn't be saying that!"

Basically the right doesn't need a new Hitler, it needs a Lenin to lead a vanguard party in overthrowing society, and someone as inept as Donald John Trump isn't going to be that.
 
To be fair I see freedom of speech no different than I see capitalism. (True capitalism none of that corporatism bullshit.) True capitalism would be a black-market with sex slavery and general slavery on the market with basically no government regulation. The truth is nobody wants "true unlimited capitalism" due to the immorality of it. So most would or basically want "True capitalism" with minute government regulation. Therefore you get all kinds of great free enterprise and trade without the immoral things of a truly unregulated market.

In a similar vain it compares to freedom of speech. There's two kinds of "free speech absolutionist." Those who think we should be allowed to say anything and those who think we can say it but will still face punishment depending on what we say (IE: Call someone's mother a whore get knocked the fuck out: Freedom of speech=/=freedom of consequence mentality)

It's not the fact that normies will just adopt immoral traits, it's the fact if we allow brainwashing and grooming of the children it could one day become the majority of a nation or society at large, and might be what Darwin described as a species hitting the wall.

Instead of pedophilia, let's say "Anti-free speech" pushes. Should people be punished for advocating for a removal of free speech? Yes. Those using force of power should stop and prevent those from using it because it's easy to create emotional manipulations to remove such a system or if not fought back against (such as currently) allow one party to take over what is and isn't allowed and removing free speech altogether while the majority of society becomes complacent. All it took is one generation of right wingers to do nothing for evil to have succeeded and it has, and continued too.


This is why those pushing the brainwashing are trying to hold out against the last two generations since Millennials and onward are almost complacent with whatever brainwashing is pushed at them and one day will become the moral fabric of society to everyone's detriment.

To protect freedom one must be intolerant to those who would destroy tolerance or intolerance will reign supreme over all facets of society and not just of the "oath keepers"

The market has been deregulated since the 1980's. Just because you don't see the ''sex slavery'' or ''slavery'' doesn't mean it's not already here. They use the illegals and occasionally even U.S citizens. I was honestly shocked about white girls being sold by their families in the USA into human sex trafficking in modern times. I didn't believe it at first. But it's happening.
 
The right has no leaders, no plan and no philosophy. It basically stumbles from loss to loss thinking it's going to win because everyone in the echo chamber really believe so.

This. With each interest group that supports the left, whether research scientists in academia or mouth-breathing blacks in Detroit, it is not at all hard to figure out what the left promises them. The left says, "If we get power, we'll do [X] for you." The right refuses to do that, because their brains have been rotted by libertarians to the point where they refuse to even say they'll stop inviting pedophiles to the public library to teach your kids how to do anal.
 
The right has no leaders, no plan and no philosophy. It basically stumbles from loss to loss thinking it's going to win because everyone in the echo chamber really believe so.
That's what you get when you have an ideology that is relying on hierarchies, only for those hierarchies (strength, intelligence, fighting prowess) to be subverted by one pseudo-hierarchy - money.
It no longer matters if you're an athletic, high IQ, youthful male, because there are millions of rich, fat fucks in front of you keeping you away from any semblance of power.
 
This. With each interest group that supports the left, whether research scientists in academia or mouth-breathing blacks in Detroit, it is not at all hard to figure out what the left promises them. The left says, "If we get power, we'll do [X] for you." The right refuses to do that, because their brains have been rotted by libertarians to the point where they refuse to even say they'll stop inviting pedophiles to the public library to teach your kids how to do anal.
Agreed. If there was one inflection point that resulted in the right being useless and ineffective, it’s embracing libertarianism. There are a lot of factors that led to the right being in the state it is today but embracing libertarianism was by far its biggest fuckup. I don’t think it was by design but there was a retarded idea that the left would have the social issues and the right would have the economic issues.

There was no reason to think the left wouldn’t overtake the economic issues and they achieved that by embracing neoliberalism. There was no recourse since the left took over the educational institutions, cranking out MBAs who are urged to embrace progressivism to alleviate social pressures on the economy. 100 years ago, Andrew Carnegie built libraries and John Rockefeller led mass vaccination campaigns; these days they can just talk about how much they love niggers, trannies, and faggots and therefore they have no need to actually help out society. Which is ironic considering how many billionaires have savior complexes.
 
The market has been deregulated since the 1980's. Just because you don't see the ''sex slavery'' or ''slavery'' doesn't mean it's not already here. They use the illegals and occasionally even U.S citizens. I was honestly shocked about white girls being sold by their families in the USA into human sex trafficking in modern times. I didn't believe it at first. But it's happening.
Yes, but my post was more talking about openly state approved instead of possibly being indirectly approved by the state's actions. Just because the illegal actions occur doesn't dismiss they are not openly approved. Also I have seen some incidences of said occurrences myself, one lady a few miles from me was trying to sell her Daughter for a few thousand before being arrested not too long ago. Pretty heinous stuff for sure.
 
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