How insane do you have to be to type a sentence like that and think it's a logical statement? "Authoritarianism for the people, not the elite." LMFAO. Holy shit. Not even Kim Jong Un would say something this batshit crazy.
If you want to live in the Roman empire, read a fucking book, because it's not going to happen again and even in that example yes it was almost all about benefiting the elites. Just because GamerGate happened or Ron Paul lost his primary or whatever fucked up your mind to the point you let assholes who don't care about you indoctrinate you does not mean King Arthur is going to become real.
Idealists literally never win, they get shot. "If you kill your enemies, they win" is not how reality works. You'd be the same person whining about how the Patriots should just try being a little nicer to King George, and then surely he'd see their point. And how there's some nice men in London who are going to make things all right, see some guys even have sympathy for us Patriots! And god forbid that Boston Tea Party thing, that's HORRIBLE, we can't be just like them!
I don't know what this strawman word salad that came out of your keyboard is supposed to mean, but you sound like someone that needs therapy before you end up trying to emulate Randy Stair in the name of your waifu. Get a fucking grip, dude. There's not going to be another American revolution of that kind, and yes I'm going to work within the normal legal avenues like voting or vocing my opinion on politics instead of whatever loony tunes fanfiction rebellion you are suggesting. Chill the fuck out.
It's also arguable whether the ideas behind America will even be relevant soon given the course of technology. Maybe they are just as obsolete as Bronze Age god-king economies and ideologies. Marxism can't either, but that's been replaced by "WEFism"/technocratic globalism with pod life, bug eating, and worship of rigged democracy and "free markets" (for corporations only). What's the alternative ideology? Probably something similarly authoritarianism like what I'm suggesting here, but working for the people instead of the elite. But conservatives don't realize that because conservatives are stupid.
The ideas behind America worked perfectly fine until institutions were captured (media/academia/schools/etc.) and wielded to subvert the population. The same informal social policing mechanisms that leftoids use so effectively today would have been used to shut them the fuck up in the past. The America of centuries past was not some kind of libertarian utopia where you could just go around spouting whatever vile trash you wanted, you'd be shunned and rightly so. The difference between the past and the present is this whole generational crop of NPCs who have been programmed to believe that "free speech" means ignoring those informal mechanisms and pretending they don't exist even while they are actively being used against you.
It wasn't always this way.
That's literally the opposite of progress, that's a desperate last effort. This never needed to be a law even 20 years ago. It's still not a very good law because it's basically saying "it's okay to teach 10 years that they don't know what gender they are, just plz don't teach 9 year olds." Progress would be saying "keep this shit out of schools", or at the very least "not before high school, you sickos." But no, Republicans are celebrating the fact that sickos have to wait until kids are 10 years old to teach them about feminine penises and the wonders of chemical castration.
Victory, when it comes to the public schools, means either abolishing them completely or massively purging them, firing like 90% of the people who currently work in them. That latter option would probably also de facto abolish them but whatever gets the job done. The institution must be either re-captured, or if it can't, then it must be destroyed so that the enemy can no longer use it. Therefore, "progress" means taking steps toward that goal. Anything else is cope. Telling blue haired tranny loving schoolteachers that they have to wait until 4th grade to poz the kids is so pitiful it's almost funny.
And they'll still find ways to do it in the lower grades, since they still have their jobs and they're still running the place. If heads don't roll, the law has no teeth.
If you want to live in the Roman empire, read a fucking book, because it's not going to happen again and even in that example yes it was almost all about benefiting the elites. Just because GamerGate happened or Ron Paul lost his primary or whatever fucked up your mind to the point you let assholes who don't care about you indoctrinate you does not mean King Arthur is going to become real.
There's a lot of parallels between Rome and the USA, not the least of which is that the US political and economic system is almost all about benefiting the elites.
How insane do you have to be to type a sentence like that and think it's a logical statement? "Authoritarianism for the people, not the elite." LMFAO. Holy shit. Not even Kim Jong Un would say something this batshit crazy.
Because authoritarian regimes have and do benefit the people all the time (Lincoln did a nice job on the South for instance) at least within the context of their own country/region (like Gaddafi for instance). Not gonna name them, just look them up yourself. Now, can you name anything actually wrong about authoritarianism that doesn't equally apply to "Our Democracy?" In the end, it's the same damn flaws of an unaccountable political elite which literally will not change unless you're in anarchist/libertarian fantasy land. We already live in a society with many aspects of totalitarianism, and it's been like that since well before 2020.
I don't know what this strawman word salad that came out of your keyboard is supposed to mean, but you sound like someone that needs therapy before you end up trying to emulate Randy Stair in the name of your waifu. Get a fucking grip, dude. There's not going to be another American revolution of that kind, and yes I'm going to work within the normal legal avenues like voting or vocing my opinion on politics instead of whatever loony tunes fanfiction rebellion you are suggesting. Chill the fuck out.
I'm not suggesting rebellion, I'm just saying you're a spineless defeatist of the sort every oppressive regime dreams of having as their "enemy". Africans call that "having a colonized mind." You've already accepted actual change is impossible--again, you're the sort who would be crying over how wrong it was that the Patriots smashed all that British tea.
What you don't recognize is that it's one step forward, three steps back every single time with these people in our system. That's why you're celebrating the don't say gay bill as "mission accomplished" even though you've basically just compromised on the indoctrination of children. Where does it end? I'm glad 2A activists realized that compromising with these people is pointless because they didn't just stop with a compromise like the NFA. At this rate, I'm confident in my lifetime I'll be seeing "conservatives" say things like "Democrats were always the REAL transphobes" and argue that children can consent to sex with adults, but should wait until they're 18 to marry them.
I'm not suggesting rebellion, I'm just saying you're a spineless defeatist of the sort every oppressive regime dreams of having as their "enemy". Africans call that "having a colonized mind." You've already accepted actual change is impossible--again, you're the sort who would be crying over how wrong it was that the Patriots smashed all that British tea.
Yeah, someone who is a "former libertarian" saying that we should have "authoritarianism for the people" calling others a "spineless defeatist" is some pretty rich stuff. And again, your'e going off on these scripts in your brain that have no connection to anything I've said in this thread. Where did I "accept actual change is impsossible" and what are you even implying by that? Sounds like something messed up.
Listen, I'll just give it to you straight, you've obviously taken too many doomer-pills and wandered off into some form of mental illness at this point. Get help before you do something really stupid. I'm being honest here.
Yeah, someone who is a "former libertarian" saying that we should have "authoritarianism for the people" calling others a "spineless defeatist" is some pretty rich stuff. And again, your'e going off on these scripts in your brain that have no connection to anything I've said in this thread. Where did I "accept actual change is impsossible" and what are you even implying by that? Sounds like something messed up.
There's nothing wrong about realizing the ideology you held as a teenager over a decade ago was actually full of shit. And it's pretty obvious you don't want actual change, because actual change means going against the political system you so idolize, the same one that makes waiting until kids are 10 years old before gender indoctrination class an acceptable compromise.
I appreciate your realism, but realism doesn't just mean "accept things as they are now and believe your neocon politicians will save you" especially not when we've established that voting doesn't work. I'm a centrist, it's all about balance--you can't go for the idealism of communism, libertarianism, or democracy, and you can't be so down to earth realist that you think of everything in terms of currently existing political systems.
Yes, a centrist that believes in authoritarianism. Are you even reading this stuff? Jesus Christ, get some more social contacts (and not other edgy internet retards) so you can get some perspective. You're in outer space if you think anything you've typed in this thread is from a centrist point of view.
That's not established yet. One fucked up election that seemed to have abnormalities doesn't discount the possibility of voting never working again. And if you thought everything would change immediately after another election, like Trump's, it's your fault for being naive. Paradigm shifts in politics don't happen over night. This has always been a marathon with both sides, but the status quo in politics will not remain forever.
I look forward to your sperging though after the midterm elections about how congress flipping doesn't matter because it wasn't Hitler coming back form the dead.
And if you keep following that thread, you're going to end up on lists or getting vanned, and it will be your fault for being an unhinged sperg.
You change the political system in the US by voting. If you think the elections aren't fair, go through the local system to weed out corruption like Florida did. If you don't like voting, fuck off to some third world shithole, or you can live out your King Arthur just authoritarian fantasies in your mind while hugging your dakimakura. Either way, you're a loon, and no one is going to listen to you.
Because authoritarian regimes have and do benefit the people all the time (Lincoln did a nice job on the South for instance) at least within the context of their own country/region (like Gaddafi for instance). Not gonna name them, just look them up yourself. Now, can you name anything actually wrong about authoritarianism that doesn't equally apply to "Our Democracy?" In the end, it's the same damn flaws of an unaccountable political elite which literally will not change unless you're in anarchist/libertarian fantasy land. We already live in a society with many aspects of totalitarianism, and it's been like that since well before 2020.
Have you considered that that's because the terminology folks like the sort around here like to argue about are imaginary, essentially postmodernist nonsense and that underneath it all every system is governed by the exact same fundamental group dynamics regardless of what arbitrary label you put on it?
I can't name anything wrong with authoritarianism because that's clown shit. There's a billion factors that play into the success or failure of any given group in any given period, and not a single one of them is what stupid faggot term pseudointellectuals decide to put them down under in the history books.
You change the political system in the US by voting. If you think the elections aren't fair, go through the local system to weed out corruption like Florida did. If you don't like voting, fuck off to some third world shithole, or you can live out your King Arthrur just authoritarian fantasies in your mind while hugging your dakimakura. Either way, you're a loon, and no one is going to listen to you.
I don't know what magical fairy land people live in where they think these systems have some innate power, like the mythical votes will alter the fabric of reality itself...historically your vote counted because of the implication. If politicians or the elite previously screwed the voting public, they knew there would be consequences. It could just mean boycotts and civil disobedience, but if things got really serious it could mean violence. There would be a collective response.
Like how cash traditionally mattered because it was backed by gold, votes mattered because they were backed by force.
That backing no longer exists because fragmentation of the middle class has removed all possibility of collective action or communal self reliance divorced from political or corporate channels.
The pertinent question to always ask yourself any time you're dealing with anyone is "And if they tell me to get fucked, what am I gonna do about it?". What are you gonna do about it if they ignore your votes?
They don't have to respect a single thing you do because you are impotent and you will do nothing but whimper and shit yourself if they don't, and you have no intention of fostering the kind of real life communal relationships to restore the threat of collective action that made these systems work to begin with, because that would involve doing something aside from thinking and talking and deluding yourself into believing you're somehow more in control than you were yesterday because of words.
There is nothing political or social to be discussed with floating words next to avatars online and there will never be. Wanna help change things, come up with some practical day to day advice to give people to make them healthier, more connected, and to have greater potential as an individual and as a member of their physical community. Or keep doing what you're doing, what any of you do is of no consequence to me.
Yes, a centrist that believes in authoritarianism. Are you even reading this stuff? Jesus Christ, get some more social contacts (and not other edgy internet retards) so you can get some perspective. You're in outer space if you think anything you've typed in this thread is from a centrist point of view.
Condemning the flaws of democracy doesn't make me not a centrist when I've more or less said I want America work for the people like it did in the 50s-70s. Totally radical idea, I know, just like those far-right Nazis like...Richard Nixon. Although I've heard an alternate perspective that America only inadvertently worked for its people in that era because the global elite needed to regroup after two world wars and needed to use us to beat the Soviets and open China.
There aren't many centrists these days, when /pol/ is definitely right-wing to far-right and the Republicans are economically right-wing, socially left (and Democrats just left to far-left). Tucker Carlson is probably the most centrist mainstream figure (even if he's still too tied to the Republicans and obviously is okay with being controlled opposition).
That's not established yet. One fucked up election that seemed to have abnormalities doesn't discount the possibility of voting never working again. And if you thought everything would change immediately after another election, like Trump's, it's your fault for being naive. Paradigm shifts in politics don't happen over night. This has always been a marathon with both sides, but the status quo in politics will not remain forever.
I look forward to your sperging though after the midterm elections about how congress flipping doesn't matter because it wasn't Hitler coming back form the dead.
Yes, Congress will flip to people like my representative (R), who's a retarded Israel-worshipping goyim and thinks killing Ukrainian citizens by fighting a proxy war with Russia is a good use of taxpayer money and will saber-rattle against China while not taking any real action against China's insane influence here in the US including numerous compromised Congressmen, banks, and who knows what else. They might undo a few of Joe's worst actions or symbolically protest troonism, but they won't ever take aim at the people promoting it like the banks or Pharma corporations.
Point is, voting doesn't work when the system is inherently rigged by the global oligarchs and their allies. What we elect is such controlled opposition that calling it that is an insult to actual controlled opposition like Tucker Carlson.
You change the political system in the US by voting. If you think the elections aren't fair, go through the local system to weed out corruption like Florida did. If you don't like voting, fuck off to some third world shithole, or you can live out your King Arthrur just authoritarian fantasies in your mind while hugging your dakimakura. Either way, you're a loon, and no one is going to listen to you.
Remember when black people voted to give themselves rights in the 50s? That was awesome, they all lined up behind Martin Luther King and voted for civil rights. Oh wait, instead they broke lots of laws and took up seats meant to be used by paying customers at businesses. Or remember when those Patriots just wrote letters to people in Parliament who supported their cause, and eventually King George said "yeah, you guys are right!" and lowered taxes before spinning them off as an independent country? Oh wait, instead they did awful things like smash the King's tea and stockpile weapons and ammo for an outright war.
Maybe you should stop lining up behind every Republican who gives even lip service to what should be basic ideas like "showing a spine for your constituency." Like it's no wonder why A&H has plenty of people talking about how based Lindsey Graham is or whatever. Republicans are so bad that in thirty years they'll probably wheel out some BASED politician's kids (like future Congressman Manuelx Rodriguez, a non-binary persxn married to two men, a women, and three non-binaries) who are all child drag queens and it will be HECKIN BASED because the child drag queens said Democrats are the REAL transphobes and also said that pedosexuals should have to wait until the kids are 12 before having sex with them.
Okay, then, I'll just not respond to your unhinged autistic tirade if there's nothing political or social to be discussed. Thanks for saving me the time.
Condemning the flaws of democracy doesn't make me not a centrist when I've more or less said I want America work for the people like it did in the 50s-70s. Totally radical idea, I know, just like those far-right Nazis like...Richard Nixon. Although I've heard an alternate perspective that America only inadvertently worked for its people in that era because the global elite needed to regroup after two world wars and needed to use us to beat the Soviets and open China.
There aren't many centrists these days, when /pol/ is definitely right-wing to far-right and the Republicans are economically right-wing, socially left (and Democrats just left to far-left). Tucker Carlson is probably the most centrist mainstream figure (even if he's still too tied to the Republicans and obviously is okay with being controlled opposition).
Yes, Congress will flip to people like my representative (R), who's a retarded Israel-worshipping goyim and thinks killing Ukrainian citizens by fighting a proxy war with Russia is a good use of taxpayer money and will saber-rattle against China while not taking any real action against China's insane influence here in the US including numerous compromised Congressmen, banks, and who knows what else. They might undo a few of Joe's worst actions or symbolically protest troonism, but they won't ever take aim at the people promoting it like the banks or Pharma corporations.
Point is, voting doesn't work when the system is inherently rigged by the global oligarchs and their allies. What we elect is such controlled opposition that calling it that is an insult to actual controlled opposition like Tucker Carlson.
Remember when black people voted to give themselves rights in the 50s? That was awesome, they all lined up behind Martin Luther King and voted for civil rights. Oh wait, instead they broke lots of laws and took up seats meant to be used by paying customers at businesses. Or remember when those Patriots just wrote letters to people in Parliament who supported their cause, and eventually King George said "yeah, you guys are right!" and lowered taxes before spinning them off as an independent country? Oh wait, instead they did awful things like smash the King's tea and stockpile weapons and ammo for an outright war.
Maybe you should stop lining up behind every Republican who gives even lip service to what should be basic ideas like "showing a spine for your constituency." Like it's no wonder why A&H has plenty of people talking about how based Lindsey Graham is or whatever. Republicans are so bad that in thirty years they'll probably wheel out some BASED politician's kids (like future Congressman Manuelx Rodriguez, a non-binary persxn married to two men, a women, and three non-binaries) who are all child drag queens and it will be HECKIN BASED because the child drag queens said Democrats are the REAL transphobes and also said that pedosexuals should have to wait until the kids are 12 before having sex with them.
That's not established yet. One fucked up election that seemed to have abnormalities doesn't discount the possibility of voting never working again. And if you thought everything would change immediately after another election, like Trump's, it's your fault for being naive. Paradigm shifts in politics don't happen over night. This has always been a marathon with both sides, but the status quo in politics will not remain forever.
It's not just that Biden was rigged in, although maybe you could say that was the nail in coffin. It's the fact that electing Trump did not change the trajectory of anything. All of the problems he was elected to address have simply continued to get worse unabated. So yes, Trump was the proof that voting "doesn't work," per se.
We already live in an authoritarian-totalitarian society, but if things were fixed this would be less likely to happen under our current system ran by far-left lunatics who hate people like you, a member of a tranny-killing Nazi forum.
When I grew up in the 90s that's exactly what most parents would've done. Or actually they wouldn't, because other kids would rightfully bully the shit out of you for wearing a mask and the schools and other parents would single your mom out as one of the weird, possibly dangerous ones, so you wouldn't be wearing a mask to begin with outside of where your parents could see you. That is how a normal society works.
That makes no logical sense. If the defacto rule is there is free speech, that doesn't mean you can just eliminate it by saying you don't like free speech. Those people will just pound sand until they tire out.
A good portion of posts on this forum right now are about SJWs, troons, and other politically left people being uncool. How is this a cope? These people are naturally obnoxious. I guess your argument is they are cool, which is sad then. lol The idea that cringe nazi pagan shit will ever be cool or mainstream is the real cope btw.
Now you're mocking the first amendment. Jesus Christ, sometimes I wish you people could try not to post like a literal strawmen.
It's a fact you can only argue against this shit because of free speech or the governement wouldn't allow you ANY means to do so even beyond what you think has happened because of the advent of mega social media companies.
Trends change, paradigm shifts happen. I seriously fucking doubt SJW will be permanetly en-vogue like you and the doom-pillers are arguing. Regardless of how you choose to fight back agaisnt "poz," discarding free speech is the literal throwing the baby out with the bathwater cliche and will result in both your short term and long term demise.
It’s going to fade away quickly because I don’t like them and in the movies, video games, and anime I like, the bad guys always lose in the end. The good guys are always going to win. I don’t know how exactly but if you doubt me, you are a blackpiller and all around mean doody head.
It’s going to fade away quickly because I don’t like them and in the movies, video games, and anime I like, the bad guys always lose in the end. The good guys are always going to win. I don’t know how exactly but if you doubt me, you are a blackpiller and all around mean doody head.
The ideas behind America worked perfectly fine until institutions were captured (media/academia/schools/etc.) and wielded to subvert the population. The same informal social policing mechanisms that leftoids use so effectively today would have been used to shut them the fuck up in the past. The America of centuries past was not some kind of libertarian utopia where you could just go around spouting whatever vile trash you wanted, you'd be shunned and rightly so. The difference between the past and the present is this whole generational crop of NPCs who have been programmed to believe that "free speech" means ignoring those informal mechanisms and pretending they don't exist even while they are actively being used against you.
It wasn't always this way.
Victory, when it comes to the public schools, means either abolishing them completely or massively purging them, firing like 90% of the people who currently work in them. That latter option would probably also de facto abolish them but whatever gets the job done. The institution must be either re-captured, or if it can't, then it must be destroyed so that the enemy can no longer use it. Therefore, "progress" means taking steps toward that goal. Anything else is cope. Telling blue haired tranny loving schoolteachers that they have to wait until 4th grade to poz the kids is so pitiful it's almost funny.
And they'll still find ways to do it in the lower grades, since they still have their jobs and they're still running the place. If heads don't roll, the law has no teeth.
There's a lot of parallels between Rome and the USA, not the least of which is that the US political and economic system is almost all about benefiting the elites.
Purging them would be pointless as they'd be replaced by people of the same ideology. So long as the universities remain as they are, the cultural left will continue to triumph everywhere.
Except Christianity (and pretty much every religion that formed a monolithic presence in highly civilized cultures like Buddhism, Taoism, Confucianism,etc) promoted the family and having children (typically lots of them, but at least enough to sustain the population for long periods of time). Left-leaning philosophies tend not to do that, because they think sex is purely for pleasure without realizing how humans reproduce and how a man emotionally bonds with a woman, producing the backbone of society which is the family. That's why many philosophers, even pre-Christian ones, recommended monogamy and sex only within the confines of marriage as rampant sexual indulgence tends to make people not form families and has a destabilizing effect on society. This is why a lot of left-leaning philosophies are doomed in the long-term even if they have hold now.
How anyone can look at the absolute sham of 2020 and think voting matters is beyond me. At least you Americans kept your guns, we're plumb fucked up here in leafland.
I admire the effort to draw blood from stone, but you're just going to have to accept that once the means of tendies production are seized, the dictatorship of the neetatariat will reign over us in glory.
People who exist outside of any remote semblance of the livelihood of a normal member of the electorate aren't often-if-ever going to come up with takes that somehow defy their circumstances and capture a glimpse of reality-as-exists. You're gonna get a bunch of people huffing farts all day because you can just filter out anyone that tells you to seek employment or to contribute meaningfully to your community. Their list of excuses for why they can do neither is about as long as the average stint at a DMV.
How anyone can look at the absolute sham of 2020 and think voting matters is beyond me. At least you Americans kept your guns, we're plumb fucked up here in leafland.
You live in a parliamentary system and Harper's government lasted from 2006-2015. Trudeau is currently in a minority government. Trudeau's popularity waned enough to move him into a minority coalition. O'Toole ran a fairly flat campaign that was flanked from the right by a fringe party, and he was removed from his position for the poor performance. Where'd your election fail, exactly? That the cope that is the People's Party didn't go anywhere? That Trudeau didn't suffer for the trucker protests that occurred about three months after that election?
Or is it that the majority of the people in your country don't agree with you, and you can't convince them owing to being a political neophyte, so you'd rather just say the whole system's broken because it's too hard to learn to address the issues of topical voters rather than farming upcummies from societal miscreants who gregariously overstate their actual intersection with any and every avenue of adult life on a website ostensibly dedicated in large part to cataloguing the lives of pants-shitting retards and obese women?
But if you're calling America's 2020 election a scam?
I don't really care if you can't read legal documents; I was having fun right on this very website during the 2020 shitshow looking at retarded boomers linking to their c: drives in paralegal "inquiries" submitted as "testimony" to courts that hadn't even issued discovery because the plaintiffs could not find any actual damages to allege. I watched through so, so many court hearings in which old, disgruntled people repeated things they saw on the internet and broke decorum - that drunk woman was hilarious - all while being unable to actually provide any form of evidence, in the age of cell phones and immediate internet access, of tampering. Or even that they were actually party to what they alleged. I saw people making things up about how the legal process actually works, and repeating the words of grifters like Rackets as if it was divine revelation - look, I found a lawyer that likes warhammer and anime and null, his word must be law and he couldn't possibly be telling me what I wanted to hear so he could bilk money off of me much like the election fraud cope has from the outset been a fundraising stunt for trump 2024.
And I don't care if you don't understand the structure of the US's dual fedrealism and the role that the judiciary has held since the Marshall court; I actually know the functions, avenues, and checks of government. When one of the more conservative justices on the bench smack-talks a retarded stunt by one state to eject and reject the lawfully-cast ballots of another state because of shit they saw on facebook - genuinely that complaint was kitchen sink and baby-laden-bathwater garbledygook - yeah, I think the people in the wrong are the ones so dumb that they didn't realize they were getting shade thrown on them. The ones that believed the constitution, a document which isn't really that long of a read, was significantly longer than the actual text in convenient ways that would allow them to not have to deal with the fact that they lost in their second-ever election.
The right will absolutely sweep in the 2022 midterms because a democrat is in the white house and the economy is in the outhouse. The democrats don't know what they stand for and lack a unifying message, especially since the "defund the police" shit has backfired comically and the stain isn't washing away. Republican enthusiasm for the midterm is roaring hot, while democrats are largely lukewarm. Even in 2024, Trump stands a good chance of winning - particularly since florida gained electoral votes in the 2020 census and there isn't, I don't know, any expectation of a world-halting pandemic breaking out in the middle of an incumbent's election year - and if it somehow did happen again, Trump then is the one that benefits.
The electoral process will work as it always has - and exactly as it worked in 2020. Republicans will sweep the house and senate, are very likely to get another shot at holding all 3 necessary levers of legislative power in 2024, and owing to the triumphant electorate not understanding how their own government works, what they stand for or believe in, or even what is actually happening in their own country... the newly-elected officials will give us another entertaining show of political theater, amounting to maybe another paul ryan tax bill. And the new right will resemble the average blizzcon audience yet again, absolutely jubilant and eyes swelling up with tears in pride at how much nothing they've been given over the years. So long as the boomerpresse tells them how much they're pwning the libs, they'll crow all the way to their job at the amazon locker.
Misconstruing ignorance over the electoral process with IT'S RIGGED! is not unlike calling magnets miracles or dust particles ghosts, and is why the US spin on the type of large-government-conservatism that successfully took swing in Latin America, Southeast Asia, and Europe is best understood as political nascar: tons of wheels spinning and engines roaring all in service of going around in a circle.
While I'm not quite sure if wide-scale "rigging" of a presidential election has happened since 1960, things like ballot harvesting are extremely easy when you fuck up the rules of voting to the point you just have to dump ballots in a designated mail box. There were definitely "anomalies" in the 2020 election you would not have seen without Covid and without so much TDS with left-wingers with extraordinary levels of butthurt whipped up by Twitter and the media, whether or not that was enough to tip the scales completely is up to debate. I can believe perhaps it wasn't, but I wouldn't be shocked if it was true either. But getting doomer-pilled over the last election to think that this concurrence of events can happen repeatedly every time there is another election is probably stupid, especially when your average Democrat doesn't give a shit about midterm elections or probably knows who is even on the ballot.
The idea of having Paul Ryan repeats is possible, but the base has been at war against those people for a while. I view it as a half-life with them with their strangle hold lessening each election cycle. Some of the most vehement anti-Trumpers took themlsevles out of office entirely because they knew they would get primaried out.
