I believe she thinks it goes against the Christian god.
She is into girls.
She grew up in a tiny village, Christian, history of sexual abuse, much mentals & many fears. Spends all her money on Candy Crush and other micro transactions.
That's sad - though not the first time I've observed those things come together and result in a young woman going the trans route. There's definitely a contingent that has a lot of fear/shame going on.
As Null pointed out in his MATI feature on pooners, any artwork that doesn't include expressly unflattering portrayals of 'Alice' as a kind of proof of stake is immediately suspect ie. made by male troons to shit on biological females.
She grew up in a tiny village, Christian, history of sexual abuse, much mentals & many fears. Spends all her money on Candy Crush and other micro transactions.
As Null pointed out in his MATI feature on pooners, any artwork that doesn't include expressly unflattering portrayals of 'Alice' as a kind of proof of stake is immediately suspect ie. made by male troons to shit on biological females.
"DAE pooners aren't respected as much as they should be? But look at this fucking troon Kevin Gibes over here! What a colossal piece of shit! But don't you EVERdare disrespect my precious pooners!!!"
I believe she thinks it goes against the Christian god.
She is into girls.
She grew up in a tiny village, Christian, history of sexual abuse, much mentals & many fears. Spends all her money on Candy Crush and other micro transactions.
Oh what a fucking surprise, turning trans in an attempt to erase homosexuality. Save the lesbians!
I’ve seen detransers talking about how trooning out ruined their life and it’s honestly heartbreaking, you can’t come back from it
Anyway, I’ve missed this thread and you doods, not drawn any pooners since the downtime, I think without this thread for inspiration I just got art block lol
What is that, schizophrenia or just hypocrisy? We MuSt PrEsErVe ThE SaNcTiTy oF CoOm-MoTiVaTeD GeNeTiC dEaDEnDeRy!
Sure maybe Li'l Pooner adopted transvestism to cure her homosexuality. But maybe she adopted homosexuality to cure her transvestism. You don't know which, because either motive results functionally the same as the other. At least they're both logically consistent positions.
You mention that you can't ever really come back from troonery, and this is true in comparison to faggotry, you could just stop being gay but you can't just grow your ovaries back. But you also say, "save the lesbians", so it's not really a valid point if you want to save lesbians rather than save the woman enslaved to lesbianism.
"Fags good, troons bad" doesn't make any rational sense. Either love is love, if it feels good do it, etc, or you have a duty to uphold that corresponds to your birthright. You can't pick and choose your degeneracy, or else you're even an heretic by degenerate standards.
Anyways, I bet twenty years ago you were against fags and twenty years in the future you'll be for troons.
No joke. Almost every lesbian i've ever met is now married to a man, some even have kids and became housewives despite their years of feminist sperging and dating other dykes. The beauty of growing the fuck up and realizing you actually didn't know dick about yourself or the world before having enough real life experience.
Wokism is about making every misguided idea from teenager years into a permanent mistake. All these pooners are like perpetual teenagers even when they much older, they are stretching teenage mentality through adulthood.
The answer to that is for bisexuals to stop calling themselves lesbian, not to assume that lesbianism doesn't exist or is only done for social/political signalling.
The answer to that is for bisexuals to stop calling themselves lesbian, not to assume that lesbianism doesn't exist or is only done for social/political signalling.
Agreed. I know that women's sexuality is reportedly more fluid than men's, but it truly boggles the mind when I see the MANY examples from my own life of women who were "100% lesbians" who have gone on to fuck/marry men. It's hard not to take those numerous examples and not see a pattern. I know actual lesbians are frustrated by the trend as well and the street wisdom urges them to never get involved with a bisexual woman because it'll only end up poorly, but I really think there needs to be a full explanation for this phenomenon. Are all of these women just completely psychopathic to lie about their sexuality so blatantly? Is there a chemical switch that comes with age? Do all of these women have some kind of developmental delay? Would genuinely like some input from women on what they think about this because this is such a taboo topic (especially among feminists) that you can't even search for this phenomenon let alone have a research study on this.
EDIT: I guess this article (as well as the 3 I know IRL) makes me lean more towards the "complete psychopath" rationale
The answer to that is for bisexuals to stop calling themselves lesbian, not to assume that lesbianism doesn't exist or is only done for social/political signalling.
i find the back and forth bickering between bi and lesbians/gays to be funny. you know how many gay men ive heard say there is no such thing as bisexuality? it always comes off as coping and sneeding and it is always funny.
Agreed. I know that women's sexuality is reportedly more fluid than men's, but it truly boggles the mind when I see the MANY examples from my own life of women who were "100% lesbians" who have gone on to fuck/marry men. It's hard not to take those numerous examples and not see a pattern. I know actual lesbians are frustrated by the trend as well and the street wisdom urges them to never get involved with a bisexual woman because it'll only end up poorly, but I really think there needs to be a full explanation for this phenomenon. Are all of these women just completely psychopathic to lie about their sexuality so blatantly? Is there a chemical switch that comes with age? Do all of these women have some kind of developmental delay? Would genuinely like some input from women on what they think about this.
yeah i would also like a full explanation. i dont think it is lieing. more likely a combination of social forces on young women to not be vanilla and boring hetero and women's sxuality being a bit different from men's. but even if we take my hypothesis, there is stil a lot of room there that need explanations.
I think that comes from many gay men knowing dozens of gay men who came out as bi first before finally accepting that they are gay. I know there are real bi men, but being bi in the 1990s and 2000s was what being "queer" is now: a way to look special in a socially acceptable way.
So clearly she always knew that she was into men, and just lied to everyone in her life, which I agree, is a pretty psychopathic thing to do. But her motivation as she would see it, I would think it's the same for a lot of these women - she feels she can't have the kind of relationship she wants to have with a man, probably a less sexually motivated / aggressive one after her previous 'craziness', but can with women so pretends to be exclusively into women as she knows being bisexual is a turn off for real lesbians, and she can't just be alone.
Again like. She knew. She always knew and she lied for years about it. I think there could be sympathy for the hypothetical bisexual woman who never acted on her attraction to men, because she didn't have a strong attraction to men, and got confused, it's just that I have literally never heard of or met such a bisexual woman. They've always got a history with men before coming out as lesbians. The bisexual women that have identified as lesbians always seem to be the ones who have the biggest body count with men if anything.
This is basically the same as gender identity speak, on top of it all. Some people suggest that straight and gay are ends of a spectrum and the majority of people are actually some degree of bisexual, and it's the prevalence of gender and generally unstable identities (which bisexual usually is, seeing as it's often about fluctuating between two different types of attraction). That and the emphasis on changing identities rather than just being alone with yourself ... sounds BPD to me.
I recommend looking up 'gold star' (lesbians who haven't had sex with men / gays who haven't had sex with women) 'platinum star' (gays delivered by c-section / lesbians who haven't ever seen a penis irl) and 'comphet' (the idea that everyone is taught to be heterosexual until they actively realise / learn otherwise) on your social media platform of choice. Or 'latebloomer lesbian' which is a lesbian that's been married to a man before. There's a subreddit for that one.
'Bi cycle' is a term to describe bi women's fluctuating attractions (more into women now, might be more interested in men in 6 months time) which a lot of bi women flip out about because it sounds like bicycle and you're calling them an unstable slut you bigot. In my experience, the ones that just accept that it's fluid, whatever's going on with them now represents the present moment and that's all, are much more stable and easy to be around than the ones that try to measure it - I'm 30% into men and 70% into women or it's 50% either way all the time and never changes - also because it's always like 10% into men 90% into women for the same feminist social signalling etc. But their actual dating history will be majority men.
There was some pretty good slapfighting around comphet last year? the year before? when the writer of the Masterdoc came out as bisexual - the masterdoc was a google docs that masses of internet lesbians used to 'find their true selves', and had questions like: do you fantasize about pegging a man? do you like men with long hair? do your male crushes keep coming out as trans women? and your answer is yes that's a sign you're a lesbian. Also 'comphet' itself comes from a 70s political lesbian (ided as a lesbian to fully embody feminism, because again, they can't just be single and alone) who again had been married to a man. The masterdoc is next level insane but the comphet essay is still fascinatingly bullshit.
There's also plenty of GC lesbians who like to start discourse with GC bis about how trans rights only got a foot in the door because the bisexuals let them in / encouraged them and that their bullshit is basically the same, but I don't know of any particular terms for that one.
I've known a couple of women that were bisexual but who identified as lesbians - I don't know if I can see them as psychopaths or even BPD because I do feel sorry for them, even though what they did was inappropriate.
One of them, who is now transitioning on top of it all, I hate as a person but I do feel somewhat sorry for because her parents are insane, scary progressives and I do think they would have / encouraged her to id as lesbian (which she did from like, 6 or 7, before I knew her) for maximum points - but she has actually dated women, several times.
The other one - she started dating an older friend of her brother's, who was obnoxiously romantic towards her, and she was obnoxiously romantic towards him - she made me listen to an incredibly long poem she'd written for him to check if it scanned when I was trying to do my homework - but something went seriously sideways and he raped her not long after - I think about the 2 month mark. It was a serious shock to everyone who knew her, and watching her deteriorate, stop washing self-medicate lose weight etc, over the next six months/year was horrific. That said, she started identifying as a lesbian as soon as she got to uni - something that I did understand under the circumstances even if it was obviously inaccurate - and basically denied that she'd ever been interested in him or any other guy, and sort of claimed that the brother pressured her into the relationship after the friend expressed an interest in her? but obviously, if you were there at the time, that wasn't what happened. I think the relationship between her and the brother had soured after the brother's reaction to finding out was apparently just to to tell the friend to leave and nothing else.
Not long after that started hanging out with all the sports teams there. She had always been the very arty type before. But not the ladies' teams, where one might find other lesbians. She was working her way through the uni's male football team when I stopped keeping in touch. The social media posts she made with all her new best friends were something else. Like she thought she was being very subtle and wink wink about it. & she flipped out when I & some other friends made some polite inquiries about her new friends while in person. Because she was a lesbian, so how could we say that about her. I don't know where she is now. Like obviously I have very mixed feelings about her, I prefer not to think about it/her to be honest.
So like. In theory I can understand why one might do it - it's just that they so consistently seem unable to stay away from men, much more so than regular women. Or just be alone. BPD.
The answer to that is for bisexuals to stop calling themselves lesbian, not to assume that lesbianism doesn't exist or is only done for social/political signalling.
But they wouldn't identify as bisexual because they truly feel like lesbians or gays or wathever for an extended period until they know themselves better and get over it, its not a bisexual conspiracy to go stealth ans piss off true and honest lifelong lesbians. Just young people with ideas about themselves that don't match their reality
Agreed. I know that women's sexuality is reportedly more fluid than men's, but it truly boggles the mind when I see the MANY examples from my own life of women who were "100% lesbians" who have gone on to fuck/marry men. It's hard not to take those numerous examples and not see a pattern. I know actual lesbians are frustrated by the trend as well and the street wisdom urges them to never get involved with a bisexual woman because it'll only end up poorly, but I really think there needs to be a full explanation for this phenomenon. Are all of these women just completely psychopathic to lie about their sexuality so blatantly? Is there a chemical switch that comes with age? Do all of these women have some kind of developmental delay? Would genuinely like some input from women on what they think about this because this is such a taboo topic (especially among feminists) that you can't even search for this phenomenon let alone have a research study on this.
EDIT: I guess this article (as well as the 3 I know IRL) makes me lean more towards the "complete psychopath" rationale
I think its pretty common with men too but a man will never be as open with those things. A woman can spend 10 years dating women and being loud about it then come back to date men and everyone shrugs and goes "well, ok". A man who had a gay experience no matter how quick or small will get labeled a faggot for life if found out.
Doctor Who is completely pozzed now, Russel T Davies was ranting about the LGB Alliance being transphobic, and there's troons going on about troonery in the show.
I miss Strax, the Sontaran butler. He was the best character, because he "misgendered" everybody and didn't give a fuck. Mostly people were a bit annoyed or amused, they got over it fast and it was just a joke about Sontaran biology and him not understanding sexually dimorphic species, but these days he'd probably get a sanctimonious and unfunny lecture for it.
I mostly just laugh at MtF's and their autistic escapades but FtM's fill me with an extremely visceral terror that pierces straight through to my brain stem causing instant nausea and panic, like the feeling of rappelling down a giant wall and suddenly hearing the webbing of your harness start to tear. To me, pooners are a monument to that feeling. 10/10 best psychological horror since Jacob's Ladder
Lol thats great I love the tired frustration on Assistant Alice's face.
Sadly Dr Pozzed is now so irredeemably pozzed that if Strax came back he'll likely be retconned into a fucking "Ally" that lectures everyone about how Trans Women are women.
Sontarans sort of look like Liz Dong Gone now I think of it.