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I think that if i had actually knew what gender dysphoria was, i could've just gotten therapy and been jane50 and or butchmoded
oh gee not the john jane 40 "repper" mumbojumbo

has it occurred to you that you might live a more fufilling life as a "repper" (normal woman) getting a more productive hobby or just trying to solve your problems, than listening to people gooning over anime girls/boys and talking about wanting to rope themselves 24/7? i'm not being facetious, i'm seriously asking. also most therapists are pozzed now, but if you can find one who won't entertain gender idealogy, you might want to seek them out
3. I was disgusted by my natal puberty, to the point of doing diy unsafely because gac here sucks.
"gac here sucks". not that you don't have gender affirming care, but that it sucks. i wonder if there's something wrong with the concept of gender affirming care?

you might want to stay off the hormones, too many get messed up by them even when doing them "safely." even men get messed up over testosterone therapy, and funnily enough that fact doesn't usually have to be censored.
 
Girls: It's okay to wear jeans. It's okay not to dress sexy or keep your hair long just because guys think you should. It's okay to be interested in trucks and blocks and science. It's okay not to want a husband, a house in the suburbs, and 2.5 children. It's okay to want a career beyond stereotypic women's work. It's okay to be grossed out by menstruation, undersized tits and chin hairs.

It's also okay not to give into pressure by other girls to be ladylike, or submit to makeovers because your mind, body, and personal presentation make them uncomfortable. It's okay to be grossed out by ill-mannered men who talk over you or grope you, or call you a mutt and try to fuck you anyway. It's okay be weirded out and furious when your father wants you to get a boob job at 16 because you "failed" to develop properly just like your mother.

None of these require you to change your sex to be "accepted." You won't be anyway, and you'll have spent a lot of time and money and pain to find out something you probably already knew. Fuck the genderspecial movement for making it even harder for ugly girls with fucked up parents to grow up unmutilated.
 
If you were actually a pooner, then why would you be on Kiwifarms? It's like if a zebra jumped in the lion exhibit at the zoo.
A lot of pooners love to inhabit places like KF and 4chan and use words like passoid, fembrained, troon, etc because they are women who still have the "not like other girls" mentality. They comfort themselves by thinking by making fun of the standard pooner then they must be separate and more like a man. These girls pride themselves on being different. First it was to be different from other girls now it's about being different from other pooners.

They're not of course. They are just that girl at school who likes to say edgy statements and loves to compete and tear down other woman to make herself look cool to the boys.
 
A lot of pooners love to inhabit places like KF and 4chan and use words like passoid, fembrained, troon, etc because they are women who still have the "not like other girls" mentality. They comfort themselves by thinking by making fun of the standard pooner then they must be separate and more like a man. These girls pride themselves on being different. First it was to be different from other girls now it's about being different from other pooners.

They're not of course. They are just that girl at school who likes to say edgy statements and loves to compete and tear down other woman to make herself look cool to the boys.
There's that, but most primarily do it to "digitally self harm."
 
Im a deep-stealth passoid. I think ill be ok. I do worry for the semi-passing doods.
You do not pass. Anyone who he-hims you does it to virtue signal, to avoid losing their jobs, to avoid conflict, because they feel bad for you, or because they're also part of the cult. The only people you're fooling are people who can't even conceptualize the horrors you've put your body through.
Maybe you look male in photos, where there is no frame of reference and you have full control over lighting and posing, but IRL it's another story. You have small hands and feet, your eyes are proportionally bigger compared to your face than a man's, you have less jaw mass.
The emperor is naked. Each individual has their own reasons to claim they see the outfit - mostly societal pressure, desire to conform, or due to feeling threatened - but the reality is that the wind is freely blowing on his balls, which you will never have.
Please come back to reality. It's not too late. I don't know what caused you to hate yourself to this extent, but you will not find real happiness and peace through lies. Only the truth, and acceptance of it, can set you free. I'm rooting for you.
 
2. I hated my birth name, i never learned to respond to it or even turn my head when it was called. Id respond to boys names once i turned 5. When i turned 8, i was finally able to write somewhat, and id sign every paper in a boys name, even after repeatedly getting in trouble for it
This is stupid. Names are just sounds that we gave meaning and there's no biological basis for it. There's nothing stopping parents from naming their daughter Paul or their son Emily. I've met women with "boy" names and men with "girl" names.
3. I was disgusted by my natal puberty, to the point of doing diy unsafely because gac here sucks.
I've never heard of a girl who is delighted by puberty as most hate it. Girls who like puberty are the odd ones out.
it's mostly about people perception of you not about you being a "man".
This is why I think gender dysphoria is bullshit. Trannies are only dysphoric about things that others perceive like primary and secondary characteristics. I've never heard a TIF being dysphoric about having cellulite even though that's a predominately female trait (men can have it in rare cases). I've never heard of TIMs wanting cellulite because men don't find that sexy. TIFs aren't dysphoric about having smaller lungs or hearts. They aren't dysphoric about their carrying angle or having joint hypermobility. Because no one calls you a worthless sex object for having flexible joints.
 
Oh KFC, every illness fakers’ community gets infected with illness fakers, troon thread here (don’t remember which one) was started by self hating trannie, pooner art was made by a pooner, what makes you, oh-so-edgy-passoid anything special? AMA? <glittertext>NO 1 CURR</glittertext>
You’re not special because you’re not-like-other-girls anymore, grow up.
Obligatory YWNBAM
 
Some pooner funnies from the bogs of Reddit. (Not that I don't enjoy a good roast of in-house pooners, but variety is the spice of life, is it not?)

Someone's a very stinky girl. Anyone notice that pooners seem to smell incredibly foul on a regular basis? I know a lot of them tend towards poor hygiene just as a bad habit, but I swear, some pooners reek as if they've descended from skunk apes.
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How to deal with vaginal stank???

I’ve been on a low dose of t for about four months and while I’ve mostly loved the changes, I have struggled so much with vaginal stank. Despite going through this subreddit and looking at other online resources, I genuinely can’t figure out what’s going on. It’s not for a lack of good hygiene, as I shower every day and I make sure to wash under the hood with Dove Sensitive bar soap. My discharge is clear or slightly yellow and there’s no burning feeling, so I don’t believe it’s an infection and I was clean for all STIs the last time I checked. This isn’t just regular ball smell — I’ve literally compared the two with my cis boyfriend. But it’s genuinely taking a toll on me, as I can smell the stank through my clothing sometimes and it’s messing with my sex life. To get an idea of the smell, imagine cleaning strength vinegar combined with 3 day old BO (or as my bf put it, like swamp ass gone bad). It’s bad enough that I keep wincing whenever I smell it, so I really need some advice on how to deal with this!!!
A post-surgery FTM is upset that someone told her to man up. I mean, why did you transition unless you wanted to be held to male expectations?
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This really got said to me...

Guess I'll put this under discussion lol.. someone said to me and I quote verbatim... you only have stitches, and you need to man up if you're trying to be a man... like what? Lol.. I literally had basically a redo of my original surgery yesterday.. the keyhole i had prior wasn't a good idea, so my revision was the di version to get rid of loose skin and no drains... the binder is crushing my ribs today and I cannot wait till the 10th to be able to breathe and shower. I've been taking pills and resting. I've cried a few times, but comfort snacks help a lot, and Mario games lol. But seriously? Your gonna say that to me? Damn...
This one's a real riot: somehow a little girl's gotten herself convinced that the gay marriage she's breaking up is all because her pussy just pops too severely.
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How do you deal with cis gay men who are insecure/jealous of your transness?

TL;DR: I’m about to be rejected by a guy because me bottoming with my pussy makes his (total bottom) husband insecure. How to proceed?
I never thought I’d be writing this, but here we are.
I (27 FTM) have been friends with this guy J (41 cisM) and his husband B (40 cisM) for 2.5 years, flirting with J for about 18 months. They’re in an open relationship and so am I.
Eight months ago, my boyfriend, my boyfriend’s husband, my husband, J and myself (but not B) went on a trip abroad. On that trip J and I finally ended up fucking. I bottomed with my front hole and the sex was amazing, some of the best I’ve ever had.
When J told B, he was pissed off. Mostly for reasons mostly unrelated to this post (the circumstances were messy), but one thing he said took me by surprise. J said that he wasn’t sure whether we’d be able to hook up again because he thinks B is insecure about my pussy. As in, as a cis gay man, B feels inferior because he doesn’t have a purpose-made bonus hole to bottom with.
Now for some background. J has been with B for around 8 years and he considers himself 100% gay. But before that, J had a 10-year relationship with a woman. They broke up for reasons unrelated to J’s sexuality, which he only figured out a few years after the break-up.
Apparently, J hooking up with me magnified some of B’s anxieties around J’s sexuality. J thinks that B is scared that deep down, what J really wants for a partner is a trans man. J assured him that it wasn’t the case - not that he wouldn’t date a trans man, just that he isn’t seeking one out specifically - and that he was perfectly happy with B’s downstairs equipment.
Fast-forward to last weekend. J, B and our mutual friends were out clubbing. I was chatting to B on the dancefloor, and ended up asking him if I could have J over at mine the next week as my husband was going to be out of town. (a rare occurrence) B smiled, said "let’s not talk about this here" and we left it at that. I didn’t think much of it until I texted J the next day, framing that conversation like "god how cringe of me to ask B instead of you". J told me he’d be keen to come over if my boyfriend and husband were okay with it (I told him I’d ask), and that he’d ask B.
This morning, I texted J that I had a green light from my boyfriend and husband, and asked him about B. He said he spoke to him, and that "it’s complicated." We’re meant to chat about it tonight.
Now I’m a bit pissed off. It’s been 8 months since J and I hooked up and I really thought B was over the whole trans thing. B and I even made out and touched each other’s dicks/holes a few times. I don’t know for sure that my transness is the "complication" but I’m 90% sure it is, and I really don’t like it. I’m confident, comfortable in my body and rarely ever experience dysphoria, but ngl, this stings.
If it comes down to it, I plan to make sure that J understands that B not wanting him to fuck me because I’m trans is transphobic, no matter how he frames it. (Edit: I don’t think B is acting out of transphobia anymore and don’t plan to tell J - see comments) But besides that, I’m at a loss. J is a good friend, and an amazing trans ally. But B is his partner of many years and I understand him not wanting to make a fuss about a hook-up that ultimately means very little to either of us. That said, I would feel betrayed, and I think I would think less of J for not challenging B.
This is already way too long, so I’ll stop here. If any of you have had similar experiences I’d love to hear them. Feel free to only reply to the title/TL;DR as well.
Update: J and I had a chat tonight. See my comment for details. TL;DR: It’s not my transness B is worried about, and even though he technically gave J his consent J and I think it’s better to hold off for now.
And lastly: a woeful li'l poon wishes, more than anything, she could be a real boy so that women could love her the way they love men. This one is a bit sad when you realize OP is likely a self-hating lesbian who cannot value a love between women being as real as a love between a straight couple, but I've genuinely lost patience with even the gay trannies, so... boohoo.
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I wish I was a real man

Is this what being a straight trans man is? Will I ever be enough for a cis woman? I don’t want to be man lite I want to be seen as a real man to a woman and to love her as a woman and her to love me as a man. Why wasn’t I born normal???(sorry ranting don’t mean to trigger anyone or brake rules and usually I’m happy being trans masc just not right now)
 
i had repeated meltdowns

i never learned to respond to it or even turn my head when it was called
I have consulted with neuropsychiatrists and we have agreed upon a diagnosis.

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I (27 FTM) have been friends with this guy J (41 cisM) and his husband B (40 cisM) for 2.5 years, flirting with J for about 18 months. They’re in an open relationship and so am I.

What do I keep telling you about these "gay guys"? A huge number are just undifferentiated sex addicts/perverts who never heard of a deranged sexual practice they wouldn't try at least once. The age gap here actually speaks volumes- a curious perv and a pooner with arrested development he figures he can experiment with freely because she is so desperate to be a "real dood" she will put up with anything.
 
What do I keep telling you about these "gay guys"? A huge number are just undifferentiated sex addicts/perverts who never heard of a deranged sexual practice they wouldn't try at least once. The age gap here actually speaks volumes- a curious perv and a pooner with arrested development he figures he can experiment with freely because she is so desperate to be a "real dood" she will put up with anything.
Really, what do faggots have to achieve in life? They fuck on first date. That's it. You've experienced the depth of the relationship. Even a dude pumping a random broad every other night for fun could eventually morph into a loving family with kids. Even the most well-respected of faggots can't do that. It starts and ends with sex, so why not go poly? More sex!
thanks dood :(
This is a curious one. Usually women fly off the hinges at any mention of "bad" + "female experience", but being told you were diddled as a kid usually makes men retort with "i diddled ur mom lmao". We've found the bi-gender patient zero.
 
27 isn't young enough to be -mentally delayed- unless you mean a literal, in this case, retarded womanchild.

Even the -passing- pooners just look like a very unfortunate gay manlet.

Gays will want a better men, normal men will be just weirded out, unless the stink outs her.

The best bet is one of those old ass pooners that look like 80 year old fat men. Those smell often amyway.
 
A post-surgery FTM is upset that someone told her to man up. I mean, why did you transition unless you wanted to be held to male expectations?
No woman ever wanted to be held to male expectations, they want to be as respected as men are but without any of the effort or sacrifice necessary to get that respect
 
Im a deep-stealth passoid. I think ill be ok. I do worry for the semi-passing doods. i truthfully think that the media will never focus on ftms, the media really feeds on fear mongering;
Please note, as many in this thread likely already have, that the pooner speaks only of self. "*I* pass, so all of this is going to be fine *for me.*"

Basically "I got mine, except for the sadfeels, so fuck everyone else."

Meanwhile, non-pooners have this to say about it (the issue in question being: the more people learn to identify pooners, the better society will be):

Just an FYI everyone can tell a pooner apart from a man, especially actual men. No one is fooled, not even yourselves believe you are men. Every pooner I've seen looks like the weird ugly fat kid in middle school that smells bad and is retarded.
This is a great example of someone who is *not* afflicted by terminal narcissism and retardation, pointing out that it's much better everyone realizes now that trans people do not pass.
They are sold a lie that "if you go on puberty blockers, get your nads (male or female) atrophied and then extracted, get your cock or gazongas cut off, and have a rotdog or stink ditch installed, no one will ever know you aren't the sex you claim to be!!! Your mental feels will then be better forever, and btw this is the only cure!!"

When this is simply not true. So the TIMs and TIFs end up pouring all this effort into seeking the magic panacea and are inevitably let down when it doesn't work. Which it never does.
Even TIFs like Buck Angel who look like regular old men eventually, don't fully pass and still experience lots of sad feels.

If society can accept this and come up with better options to help those suffering from gender-related sad feels, that will be awesome for everyone. Individual TIFs being able to "deep stealth pass" are inconsequential to everyone else's wellbeing.

Thank you for listening to this anthropological and sociological talk at The Pooner Zoo!
 
27 isn't young enough to be -mentally delayed- unless you mean a literal, in this case, retarded womanchild.
I don't think she's clinically retarded, or that it's something like "statutory rape," it's just an obvious dynamic of an amoral pervert correctly recognizing someone who is all at once stupid from her tranny delusions, stupid from her relative inexperience at life, and eager to do anything to fit in. Being a dumb young pooner, she is far more likely than even the dumbest twink the same age to do whatever he asks, and far, far more likely than even the most wanton hoe who still calls herself a woman.

There are whole subsets of the gay "kink" community that have a thing for pooners and I think we all know why that is.
 
Major examples:

1. The earliest i remember it happening was when i was around five years old. I was raised in a very progressive community. One day during a campout, i met a boy older then me, he was wearing girls clothes and had longer hair. Everyone mistook him for a girl. I found out much later that s/he transitioned years after but it doesn't matter much now.

But when i wore boys clothes, it was obviously different. i was not seen as a boy, i was just called a tomboy or i was treated like a normal girl who happened to be wearing boyish clothes. i had repeated meltdowns over this, because i didnt want to be a tomboy, and i didnt have the words to express it.

2. I hated my birth name, i never learned to respond to it or even turn my head when it was called. Id respond to boys names once i turned 5. When i turned 8, i was finally able to write somewhat, and id sign every paper in a boys name, even after repeatedly getting in trouble for it

3. I was disgusted by my natal puberty, to the point of doing diy unsafely because gac here sucks.

4. I do not have much dysphoria nowadays, but sometimes i get general dysphoric feelings. Sadness over how much work i have to do to feel correct when it comes so easily to everyone else. I pass now, but i often worry that if pooners get pushed into the limelight, it will become harder to pass. I get dysphoric over the fact i have to worry about that.
This is hilariously female. I highly doubt you “pass”.
 
troon thread here (don’t remember which one) was started by self hating trannie,
Tranny Slideshow thread, and for the sake of it, here's the first post of his meltdown.
This is a curious one. Usually women fly off the hinges at any mention of "bad" + "female experience", but being told you were diddled as a kid usually makes men retort with "i diddled ur mom lmao". We've found the bi-gender patient zero.
This is pretty on par with /tttt/ pooners actually. I get that the thread has moved on from pooner art, but self depreciation is the standard, not the exception.
 
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