The Tomboy Question(s)

[ReturnedHermit]

Tomboys are pretty well understood at this point. The primary source of attraction is always the lack of pageantry and social grace. All other features, from fitness to hair length to entertainment preferences are secondary.
The tomboy is the female equivalent of the manchild. Whether or not you can push further and claim they are predominantly cases of masking autistism (or the disorder formerly known as Asperger's) is not entirely clear.
Men read into the tomboy too much. You may see a woman without makeup, without a "fake" personality or flock of female friends and think "Wow, she's attainable and authentic." This observation is not to be trusted for a number of reasons. The 'Women are Wonderful' effect can do a number on your brain, leading you to believe that the reason for a tomboy to act the way she does is out of some rebellion against the norm. You may believe in some way that your scouter is picking up a powerlevel due to her occasional criticism of modern women. What you are really picking up on is the shift that occurs in between childhood and adulthood where most men become losers or merely invisible drones, while most women are thriving. There are many reasons for this across many disciplines, but the end result is a great filtering process. This explains the relative scarcity of tomboys as well. They are simply part of the relatively small group of women who did not rise to the expected level of maturity and conformity at the prescribed time. Putting any hopes or dreams on the tomboy is courting disaster. Expecting some sophisticated, rebellious spirit is equally wrong. Instead, what you get is a stunted person with little to be passionate about other than the past.

Trust me.

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

they have a modified understanding of what constitutes a "tomboy" that allows them to recognize sexually mature women as such....expecting their tomboy waifu to be kind of androgynous

Sexually mature women are not androgynous. They have tits. Even B cups mark you as very clearly not male, and lots of American women have C-cups or larger.

 

[emptyblu]

I like girls with short hair. That’s it, that’s all I have to say.

 

[Demislob]

I like girls with short hair. That’s it, that’s all I have to say.

Dude. Nice.

 

[Soulless4510]

Well according to Youtuber Tradlarper Academic Agent tomboys and muscular women, in general, are part of the downfall of western civilization

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Sexually mature women are not androgynous. They have tits. Even B cups mark you as very clearly not male, and lots of American women have C-cups or larger.

I said "kind of androgynous", and I meant as a matter of style rather than natural body type.

Trust me.

Sounds like there's a story behind the genesis of this observation.

 

[Unyielding Stupidity]

From what I've seen, most guys that genuinely want a tomboy gf fall into one of two catagories. They're either guys that are extremely athletic and want a woman with the same passion, or weaker men who want a dominant female partner and see tomboys as a way to achieve that.

Well, either that or they're coomers that just have a thing for women with short hair or big muscles (and usually dark skin for some reason), presumably because their mother either didn't love them or loved them too much.

 

[greenvector36]

I like girls with short hair. That’s it, that’s all I have to say.

Dude. Nice.

 

[FoolhardStar]

My two quid:
Tomboys are going through a similar thing that goth and other niche subcultures have gone through. People that fall in line with it but don't center their entire existence around it tend to be perfectly fine, even great people. I've known and met people that fall into goth archetypes, but it's just an aspect of themselves and not their entire being or a fetish, if that makes sense. Every single obnoxiously vocal goth, or punk, or just any alternative person I've met that acts like that part of themselves makes them superior has been a powder keg waiting to explode, or just a complete passive aggressive cunt. Most people I know that used to have a "big titty goth gf" fetish shut the fuck up instantly when they actually found out what goths that won't shut up about being goth are like. People that're into tomboys range from just liking short hair and more toned and fit women, to men that practically worship the concept as a religion and want a tomboy equivalent to Ramona Flowers.

Here's an easy way to figure out whether or not you should run the fuck away: If she's just a more masculine chick and feels no need to call it out or talk about just how awesome it makes her compared to everyone else, you're likely gold. If she won't shut up about "I'm not like other girls" and prides herself on not being very girly constantly, you might need to have a talk. It's by no means exclusive to women, it's just that "I'm not like other guys, I'm special" and the types of men that usually say that get shamed enough.

 

[not william stenchever]

I know a lady who would be peak tomboy waifu but she has a surprisingly wholesome thing going with another woman and together they are raising the latter's autistic son. Their chickens are pretty cool.

 

[Merried Senior Comic]

Anything men like = bad.

 

[Niggerman]

Tomboys are cancer. They talk big until shit hits fan(or a man in a dress joins their sports league) then they run ,hide and cry like all other women. At least feminine women are more honest about themselves

 

[Fougaro]

Well according to Youtuber Tradlarper Academic Agent tomboys and muscular women, in general, are part of the downfall of western civilization

He hates women that try to get themselves in shape and unironically believes in the anime-tranny pipeline meme. Maybe some of Null's recent bizarre takes come from him watching tarditional conspergative schizoposters a bit too much.

One of the comments on this video did in my opinion a decent job explaining the tomboy phenomenon.

 

[SneedEyeMitch]

From what I've seen, most guys that genuinely want a tomboy gf fall into one of two catagories. They're either guys that are extremely athletic and want a woman with the same passion, or weaker men who want a dominant female partner and see tomboys as a way to achieve that.

Well, either that or they're coomers that just have a thing for women with short hair or big muscles (and usually dark skin for some reason), presumably because their mother either didn't love them or loved them too much.

Third option I see their wanting to be dominat as a challenge and being hard to get, and it's a really fun challenge.

 

[biozeminadae1]

Doubt it, girls generally like sticking to people who agree with them having basic human rights. I've seen his posts in abortion sperging.

That's another thing, you really don't respect tomboys if you ultimately just see them as something you want to stick your dick in and pop out babies for you. Sure some women, even masculine women, do want to have kids, but lots of us don't. Lots of us also aren't attracted to men. Do you still respect those tomboys? Us lesbian, childfree tomboys that will never see you as anything more than a friend if you're a dude?

No.

 

[biozeminadae1]

Double post, but this is how a real tomboy, Jarmila Kratochvilova, looks like:

Hair from the chest all the way to the balls.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Well according to Youtuber Tradlarper Academic Agent tomboys and muscular women, in general, are part of the downfall of western civilization

This nigger is retarded. He's assuming that the reason why twatter fags like tomboys is the same reason why dudes on the internet in general like tomboys. It would be akin to assuming that the reason I hate Israel is the same reason AOC hates Israel. He's also, ironically, fallen for the same shit the twatter fags have which is that tomboys = bull dikes, and troons.

Side note:
Looked at some of his other shit, and he doesn't seem all that bad, but this was a pretty retarded take.

 

[biozeminadae1]

This surge in popularity for tomboys is an Internet fad, and just like the Big Titty Goth gf before (actual goths are just fat), and the Mommy Milkers shit, it will go away. Tomboys are not what's depicted in anime and manga.

 

[Grand Wizard Wakka]

One of the comments on this video did in my opinion a decent job explaining the tomboy phenomenon.
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"superifically strong"

I just wanna agree and expand on that, cause I think its important. Modern feminism has a twisted idea of "strong". They think strength is winning, even if its winning easily or with advantage. The reality is admirable strength is the strength to try even if you'll likely lose, or to keep getting up and trying even when you lose.

Thats why modern feminism's attempts at pushing heroes dont resonate, like Captain Marvel who's just invincible and perfect, but there have been actual female heroes in the past admired by people who are now called misogynists. Ripley wasn't effortlessly owning Aliens left and right with her bare hands (until Ressurection which everyone thinks is bad). She was vulnerable, but brave and competent in the face of situations most would break under.

Modern feminism doesn't teach or raise girls to endure, but to step on ants when they have advantage and run and cry sexism when they have disadvantage.

Women of the past in "meek" roles had a lot more endurance, worked harder, and had more inner strength. Imagine doing laundry by hand without a washing machine, and all sorts of other chores that were so much more demanding physically and with time commitment than anyone today can imagine, and it being 100% OK for the shit to be beaten out of you if you tried saying "NO BUT I CANT ADULT TODAY". Imagine not having birth control and modern health, and needing to actually be cautious and make good choices. Women of the past couldn't sidestep responsibilities, and they had to endure. A lot of women now break down from "harassment" if someone dares to criticize them or doesn't help them enough.

Men are weaker too. I think thats why so many troon out, because they think they can finally be a stereotypical female role and just cry and be weak and not be expected to "man up" when someone is mean to them or they have to endure through hardship.

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As far as the actual topic of tomboys, I think people overthink it, like they're some sort of mutation or another species entirely. Some girls have long hair, some girls have short hair. Some girls can appreciate cool shit, and some girls are boring basic bitches who's only interest is watching The Kardashians. Liking tomboys is just a taste like butts vs boobs or longhair vs shorthair, etc. And tomboys aren't a monolith. It umbrellas everything from some pixie girl who just likes "nerdy boy stuff" like Skyrim to ripped athlete fem-jocks, which are very different and someone who's into one likely isn't into the other.

Also, people need to stop bullying tomboys into trooning just because a girl isn't some stereotypical Barbie doll.

 

[Equivocal_Iki]

Tomboy is such a diluted term it might as well just mean "girl I like". It seems more like someone will use any excuse to call a girl they like a tomboy. I remember using a wordfilter to filter "tomboy" to "girl" just to see how it would go and the 4chan thread read exactly the same.