The Transableism Movement

[dorkin44]

It's alright, I'm kind of a dope in that respect. Especially on this shit. lol

To be honest you guys are a lot better than SJWs are about the whole subject. I honestly was expecting everyone to write me off as Satan incarnate. Like I honestly don't care, it's pretty much standard anyways so I'm used to it lol, but at least the people here are honest about it.

I remember earlier on when I was in the process of just trying to grasp this shit, I was really afraid of talking about it with most of the people I hung around, mainly because they're pretty much the same kind of subculture as kiwifarms. I made the mistake of getting involved with some genderspecials in an attempt to be able to talk about it to SOMEONE (since it's pretty hard to find others online) and they would go on about how their bullshit gender like transmasculine or demigender gives them such horrible dysphoria but when I came out about my shit it was clear they were trying to avoid me. They never said it to my face but they would talk about on their blogs about how uncomfortable I made them and how I was this or that.

Like why, seriously? Just say it to my face like everyone else does, you pussy. Don't pretend to be an open minded person about these things when you're clearly not.

And surprisingly most of the people on the communities I had been on before either were alright with it or if they weren't they didn't try to play this passive aggressive whiny bullshit. Like I honestly walk in expecting nothing so even having one person be supportive is nice. But damn... they're so shifty. Just another example to show that they really don't give a shit about anything but themselves.

Yeah I learned my lesson on that one.

EDIT: Yeah these were the same people that I talked about earlier that were shitty to play CAH with and desperately tried to ruin one of my favourite bands of all time for me.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

I honestly was expecting everyone to write me off as Satan incarnate.

No but you are an obnoxious, self important, asshole who never stops shitting on transsexual people or derailing other threads to make them more about yourself.

Hey, you know what's ironic? By constantly shitting on transsexual and transethnic people, you're acting just like the same (alleged) faggots that tried to distance themselves away from transableists (I fucking wonder why) by othering them with troll shielding every chance you get.

You're kind of a fucking faggot is what I'm saying.

Also, I noticed that your avatar has an animu with sunglasses. I wonder why.

This isn't even comparable to pedophilia or bestiality.

That is a pathetic comparison. That's like bragging about being a better artist than Chris-chan. You have the exact same attitude as @TranLord.

 

[autism420]

@dorkin44 please post more

 

[Ho Mo for Women]

@dorkin44 You're trollshielding hard. If you want my advice, you should leave before you make enough of an ass of yourself to earn a halal thread. You should sort out your problems, see a therapist, and find out why you think being blind is so cool. If you can do that, you're always welcome at the Farms. If you can't, well, we'll probably see you here anyway.

 

[dorkin44]

@dorkin44 You're trollshielding hard. If you want my advice, you should leave before you make enough of an ass of yourself to earn a halal thread. You should sort out your problems, see a therapist, and find out why you think being blind is so cool. If you can do that, you're always welcome at the Farms. If you can't, well, we'll probably see you here anyway.

Well I already do that so I think we're all set. I also participate in research. Hopefully that will help me out, but progress is slow.

Honestly I actually was a member here under a different old account before I realized what was wrong with me. I mean quite frankly if it were any other disorder I'd act the same. I just posted here since I thought I'd clarify that the disorder exists outside of Tumblr.

Also for fucks sake I have nothing against transsexuals, holy shit. I'm just tired of their activism acting like shit. I'm not going to continue to suck the cock of assholes who act like the disorder doesn't exist because of their own issues. If you're not participating in that behaviour then I really don't give a shit what you do with your life.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

I actually was a member here under a different old account before

Prove it.

 

[KingQueen]

I hate defending @dorkin44, but "transableism" existed long before that word and Tumblr were invented.

Personally I think transableism is Factitious Disorder or BDD, but that's just armchair psychology.

Also for fucks sake I have nothing against transsexuals, holy shit. I'm just tired of their activism acting like shit. I'm not going to continue to suck the cock of assholes who act like the disorder doesn't exist because of their own issues. If you're not participating in that behaviour then I really don't give a shit what you do with your life.

Then maybe you want to think about the way you word things.

 

[dorkin44]

Then maybe you want to think about the way you word things.

Yeah, I apologize, that was my fault.

I genuinely have nothing against transgender people, I honestly fully support them as long as they don't get in the way of research. I don't think there's anything inherently anti-transgender by pointing out that GID is an identity disorder and that some people in the activism are sabotaging other people who genuinely need help. Considering the fact that it's caused getting help to be extremely difficult, I think I let my anger with having trouble finding help with the issue bleed through my post too much. And admittedly you have every right to criticize me for that.

I just find it annoying that many people still are acting like my first posts in this thread reflects my opinions when I've pointed out repeatedly that I messed up describing the actual issue and my other posts on the forum have supported transsexuals and even the idea of transethnic individuals (in a social sense).

But seriously Marvin, for someone who thinks I hate transgender/transethnic people so much, please show me how supposedly transphobic I am outside of the few posts in question that I admitted that I worded poorly and I admitted that my personal frustration with receiving treatment got in the way of portraying my personal beliefs.

That is a pathetic comparison. That's like bragging about being a better artist than Chris-chan. You have the exact same attitude as @TranLord.

Dude, you keep saying "it's wrong, it's wrong" but you don't explain why. Like, I'm not asking for much, I'm asking for how my disorder takes advantage of society or the disabled. If I go and pretend to be blind and do nothing else, how does this affect anyone else's life? I'm asking you to actually think about this. If you feel uncomfortable with it, that's understandable and honestly I don't care, but you can't keep saying that it harms people and that it's inherently evil with absolutely nothing to back that claim. This is the same shit that transgender people had to go through when GID was first emerging, this was the same shit that homosexuals had to go through for years, ect.

Pedophilia hurts people because a child can't consent and is raped, and they are taken advantage of. Bestiality hurts animals because animals also can't consent and they can't back off unless they're particularly large. Disorders like Muchausen Syndrome can hurt people because it can waste medical resources and in Muchausen by Proxy it can even endanger someone else's life. What does BIID do that is even comparable to that? Withdrawing disability benefits or using limited resources are not a requirement for this, and I don't do either.

Seriously, I'm asking you to sit down and explain this to me.

I'm not saying it's normal or that I should just tear my eyes out but for fuck's sake, man.

Do you really need to ask this?

Yes, I do, because I think you need to analyze how my condition actually affects the disabled instead of just assuming shit. How the fuck am I affecting any blind person by putting in contacts in my apartment in the evening?

 

[autism420]

I'm asking for how my disorder takes advantage of society or the disabled.

Do you really need to ask this?

This is the same shit that transgender people had to go through when GID was first emerging, this was the same shit that homosexuals had to go through for years, ect.

lol you are outright delusional

 

[Meowthkip]

Yeah, I apologize, that was my fault.

I genuinely have nothing against transgender people, I honestly fully support them as long as they don't get in the way of research. I don't think there's anything inherently anti-transgender by pointing out that GID is an identity disorder and that some people in the activism are sabotaging other people who genuinely need help. Considering the fact that it's caused getting help to be extremely difficult, I think I let my anger with having trouble finding help with the issue bleed through my post too much. And admittedly you have every right to criticize me for that.

I just find it annoying that many people still are acting like my first posts in this thread reflects my opinions when I've pointed out repeatedly that I messed up describing the actual issue and my other posts on the forum have supported transsexuals and even the idea of transethnic individuals (in a social sense).


Dude, you keep saying "it's wrong, it's wrong" but you don't explain why. Like, I'm not asking for much, I'm asking for how my disorder takes advantage of society or the disabled. If I go and pretend to be blind and do nothing else, how does this affect anyone else's life? I'm asking you to actually think about this. If you feel uncomfortable with it, that's understandable and honestly I don't care, but you can't keep saying that it harms people and that it's inherently evil with absolutely nothing to back that claim. This is the same shit that transgender people had to go through when GID was first emerging, this was the same shit that homosexuals had to go through for years, ect.

I'm not saying it's normal or that I should just tear my eyes out but for fuck's sake, man.

It's more like, while I and other people outside of the transgender civil rights movements may be critical of the rhetoric of certain sub-sections, most will be far more accommodating to them than somebody who wants to be disabled. I know you're bitter and all, but it comes across like you got an axe to grind.

Chill.

 

[dorkin44]

It's more like, while I and other people outside of the transgender civil rights movements may be critical of the rhetoric of certain sub-sections, most will be far more accommodating to them than somebody who wants to be disabled. I know you're bitter and all, but it comes across like you got an axe to grind.

Yeah I understand.

My only real request is just for BIID to be recognized as a disorder, nothing more. I think that's pretty reasonable. I'm frustrated with the fact that I can't find anyone who can help me manage my issues; if BIID was more recognized or even made it into the DSM-VI, more treatment options could be available and I could actually get help for this condition instead of trying to just do shoddy guesswork with what may work. Treatment for other possibilities has failed and I'm getting to the end of my rope sometimes. I accept the fact that I'm not normal and I have a disorder and I want to be helped.

BIID in some cases does get in the way of disabled persons but it depends on the situation and because of the fact that most accommodations for blind people are either built into systems (such as braille signs or accessible software) or are not in any sort of short supply (such as a cane) and thus are not intefering with the quality of life of a blins person. It could be used to be disingenuous and try to get money but that's an action of the person themselves, not a requirement for the disorder. I mean think about it, blind people usually only have a cane with them and possible some technology like a GPS unit or a money reader, they don't need things like special spaces for their wheelchairs or something like that.

I guess having a dog would be a way that could harm those who are actually blind but I don't need a dog, so... my point is that you shouldn't claim that someone's actions are harming a group of people based on a factor like that alone. I mean a lot of BIID patients almost never act on their desires - these people are doing nothing to harm the disabled and really shouldn't be compared to people who try to use false disability to harm or take advantage of others.

Feeling disgusted by someone who has the disorder is one thing but you shouldn't rely on such flawed logic to incriminate it. At the end of the day we are people with a serious condition who need help either way and regardless of what the issue is rooted in we still need medical treatment.

 

[Silver]

it's cultural appropriation that's what it is lol

 

[melty]

Dorkin, do you have a blog? I ask because you mention getting shit from other forums and tumblrs and various groups after looking for tolerance there. It would make a lot more sense to set up a new blog somewhere else and let people come to you. You might get 100 hate mails for every 1-2 people who agree with you but I think it'd be a more productive way of talking about your issues.

 

[autism420]

Honestly I actually was a member here under a different old account

This is against the rules and you need to tell us what your previous user name was.

 

[Silver]

Dorkin, do you have a blog? I ask because you mention getting shit from other forums and tumblrs and various groups after looking for tolerance there. It would make a lot more sense to set up a new blog somewhere else and let people come to you. You might get 100 hate mails for every 1-2 people who agree with you but I think it'd be a more productive way of talking about your issues.

In the first post Dorkin made they said a blog they run was featured in this very thread.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Dude, you keep saying "it's wrong, it's wrong" but you don't explain why.

Actually, no I didn't. You literally just made that up. Not only are you self absorbed asswipe, you're also a liar.

If you feel uncomfortable with it, that's understandable and honestly I don't care, but you can't keep saying that it harms people and that it's inherently evil with absolutely nothing to back that claim.

I said nothing about it being innately evil. You literally compared yourself to pedophiles and zoophiles; as if you really need to establish distance between an alleged identity disorder & two of the most maligned fetishes known to man.

This is the same shit that transgender people had to go through when GID was first emerging, this was the same shit that homosexuals had to go through for years, ect.

You know nothing of being dehumanized by society, you self serving little shit. Grow up.

Pedophilia hurts people because a child can't consent and is raped, and they are taken advantage of.

Nice grammar. Why are you comparing a mental disorder to a horrible sex crime?

Bestiality hurts animals because animals also can't consent and they can't back off unless they're particularly large.

Except for in the case of Mr. Hands. He died of bleeding out his asshole after letting a horse fuck him in the ass ribcage. The horse is fine though.

Why are you comparing a mental disorder to a horrible sex crime?

Seriously, I'm asking you to sit down and explain this to me.

I don't know why you're going on this rant about BIID not being evil; I was talking about you being a shitty person, not your disorder making you a shitty person.

 

[Jumpin Jenkins]

New thread title: Dorkin44's TrollShield Express.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

New thread title: Dorkin44's TrollShield Express.

Do it.

 

[The Lizard Queen]

Do it.

Done... ish. I would stick his name in there, but I seem to recall some rule against starting threads for other Kiwis... unless approved by a mod.

 

[autism420]

http://kfor.com/2015/10/01/woman-sa...r-fulfilling-lifelong-wish-of-becoming-blind/