The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

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  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%
  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%
  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%

  • Total voters
    992
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As far as Tamir Rice goes, the cops had no way of knowing he was 12, and even if they had, that doesn't mean he wouldn't have been a threat.

It's sad and depressing, but kids in junior high intentionally kill, injure, and maim other people all the damn time in this country. One of the kids who stabbed Tessa Majors was 13.

The Calvinists are right: people are born evil, and kids aren't some little happy oasis of innocence and good will, they have to be taught to do good.

If all you ever see modeled is violence, selfishness, the immediate gratification of base instincts, and the kind of racism that views people of other races as suckers who are there for you to exploit, that's how you're going to be.
 
There's a saying that, if I may paraphrase, say something like: People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
People like you are always the first to scream for a cop when your shit gets stolen.

Yeah, we're the ones brainwashed, because we can have a point of view other than 'Chauvin murdered Floyd'.
Miss this whole site with your basic-bitch normie-tier whitey-hating nigger apologism.
uWu babby ain't going to gaet freee donuts animore aWww

(am i gonna get a ticket or do i have to sacrifice my dog for this comment??)
 
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General Donald Williams from The Original Black Panthers of Milwaukee who like to go around playing community police against 'racists', will not allow you to portray him as an angry black man.

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Edit 2 - Deleted this vid as it's not sure it's him. Youtube link is still here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUX8CmsxRxs

This vid was recorded at Northside Boxing Club. Maybe they also can teach you how to smash up police vehicles?:

Edit - Link to vid: https://www.facebook.com/108841525865444/videos/3083420878407479
 

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uWu babby ain't going to gaet freee donuts animore aWww

(am i gonna get a ticket or do i have to sacrifice my dog for this comment??)
Look I hate getting speeding tickets and my dog getting shotgunned in the face as much as the rest of us, but if you are taking this trial at face value "Cop vs Black Man" then you obviously are not and have not been paying attention, and at this point I doubt you ever will.
 
The past couple years or so have been a case study in Murphy's Law and I'm getting pretty fucking sick of it. It's like being railroaded by a retarded DM.

Poe's Law, not Murphy's.
(In that it would be notoriously difficult to pick out real events that happened from satirical parodies of said events because they can't be separated significantly)
 
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Look I hate getting speeding tickets and my dog getting shotgunned in the face as much as the rest of us, but if you are taking this trial at face value "Cop vs Black Man" then you obviously are not and have not been paying attention, and at this point I doubt you ever will.
Everyone needs an ego-check from time to time. This time, the bottle stopped on the police
This wasn't a racial issue from the day one. I don't a fuck about e-clout chasers posting black squares or grifters giving their hot takes on twitter. Police, instead of being a service, has become an institution. Mfs scratch each other's back to maintain some bs facade of reputation. If you find it hard to comprehend because the victim is black, they even made a white guy crawl on the floor before shooting him once

(tbc i don't believe in the bs that police disproportionately targets blacks more or police should be abolished. and no im not a commie)
 
Once you realize the enormity of the lies the media tells you start asking yourself how someone hasn't fucking put every last one of them in early graves.
Remember what happened to Charlie Hebdo?
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They are asking for the bullet if it means there´s more $$$ to be made.
Kill one of them and 2 more are coming to replace them in Minecraft ofc.
They reproduce by the lure of easy money and playing minecraft.
 
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They are asking for the bullet if it means there´s more $$$ to be made.
Kill one of them and 2 more are coming to replace them in Minecraft ofc.
They reproduce by the lure of easy money and playing minecraft.
Well to be fair it was because people wanted to have the edition just after the attack as a sort of memorabilia.
Charlie Hebdo didn't haven a significant long term growts of his viewership
 
Remember what happened to Charlie Hebdo?
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Kill one of them and 2 more are coming to replace them in Minecraft ofc.
They reproduce by the lure of easy money and playing minecraft.

ch got this boost from the attack because before the attack it was an obscure local publication that nobody outside france ever heard of, then the attack made it so billions of people instantly knew their name over night

big mainstream media doesn't have that possibility. everybody already knows about nyt, wapo, guardian etc. they already have 100% brand recognition, nothing can boost them above that.
 
Once of the things you want to remember regarding Lt. Zimmerman's testimony about 'lol there is not threat if they are cuffed, knee to the back is lethal, duh!' is that while it is false and harmful to the defense we have to remember two key factors.
1) This is early during the trial, with deliberations weeks away. It can't make that much of an impact.
2) This is a prosecution witness, so the defense is in a weak position to counter it on cross.

The best outcome for the defense is to wait until they call witnesses, bring up a use-of-force expert, and allow them to talk.
👨‍💼 "Mister Use of Force expert, we've heard that what happened was wrong and criminal and against policy. Was it?"
👮‍♂️ "No, it was totally appropriate."
👨‍💼 "I'm an attorney and not able to testify or offer information, so you can tell the jury why you disagree?"
👮‍♂️ "Well, unlike the retard the State called, I looked at all the evidence, not just a snippet of video."
👮‍♂️ "For example, he stated that a cuffed suspect is not dangerous. Here are five cases where a cuffed suspect killed the cops and then ate a baby."
👮‍♂️ "He also stated that once a suspect is unresponsive or stops struggling, they are no longer a threat. Here are five cases where a suspect faked a medical issue, went still, and then killed the cops before raping an adorable puppy to death."
👨‍💼 "Despite this, it has been claimed that such a hold was illegal and against policy. Is that true?"
👮‍♂️ "No. According to these manuals, these training materials, and these videos the Minneapolis police trained Chauvin to use this hold in this exact circumstance."
👨‍💼 "Isn't this hold dangerous though? Did the city train my client to kill niggers?"
👮‍♂️ "This type of restraint is safer for everyone, as these documents and studies show, several of which were included in the city's records. Everyone from the city to individual officers understood that this restraint was chosen for safety."

Waiting allows the defense attorney to have an able expert witness kneecap and execute the weak testimony at a time when a lot more pertinent information can be given, and get it all done days - not weeks, before the jury starts to deliberate.

As Legal Insurrection notes:
There are, of course, limits to what defense counsel can do on cross-examination—specifically, defense counsel is not permitted to argue with a witness (despite what you see on television), nor can defense counsel himself testify (again, despite what you see on television).
These limitations were illustrated when Nelson asked Zimmerman if there was any provision under MPD policy in which a knee on neck would be allowed, other than as a purely opportunistic defense technique, and Zimmerman replied that there was not.
Well, having looked at the actual MPD policy and training manual, I can state with certainty that knee on neck is explicitly permitted (or was, at the time of the Floyd event), and even demonstrated photographically.
Now, Nelson could have pulled out that policy, and shoved it in Zimmerman’s face to impeach him on the stand, but today was not the best day to bring that particular club to bear, and especially not to an older gentleman like Zimmerman.
Best, I expect Nelson thought, to save that club for better time when he could bring it to bear from position of strength, rather than on cross-examination—and at time much more proximate to jury deliberations.
It’s worth keeping in mind that everything happening in court today will have been three weeks in the past by the time the jury goes into deliberations, and in the intervening three weeks the jury will have seen a mountain of additional evidence—much of it evidence presented by the defense in its case in chief.
 
General Donald Williams from The Original Black Panthers of Milwaukee who like to go around playing community police against 'racists', will not allow you to portray him as an angry black man.

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Edit 2 - Deleted this vid as it's not sure it's him. Youtube link is still here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUX8CmsxRxs

This vid was recorded at Northside Boxing Club. Maybe they also can teach you how to smash up police vehicles?:
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Edit - Link to vid: https://www.facebook.com/108841525865444/videos/3083420878407479
"YEAAAAH FUCK EM UP KING PANTHER OF DA JUNGLE BIGGEST KING OF DA JUNGLE FUCK WHITEY UP DAS RITE BLACK PANTHERS FOREVER IN THIS BITCH YEEEEEEAH"
"We're a civil, peaceful movement."
 
General Donald Williams from The Original Black Panthers of Milwaukee who like to go around playing community police against 'racists', will not allow you to portray him as an angry black man.

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Edit 2 - Deleted this vid as it's not sure it's him. Youtube link is still here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUX8CmsxRxs

This vid was recorded at Northside Boxing Club. Maybe they also can teach you how to smash up police vehicles?:
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Edit - Link to vid: https://www.facebook.com/108841525865444/videos/3083420878407479
Oh man no wonder our "bro" here was so angry watching Floyd pop his last pill, the guy's an absolute manlet. Short people and their anger management problems.
 
A little more on Lt. Richard Zimmerman of MNPD. Nothing outrageous.
There's a dismissed appeal that names him as the respondent in allegations of excessive force, but reading the actual notes it appears to refer to an Officer Scheu [archive]. There may be a legitimate reason for this, but I don't know it.

He has an IMDB page as Rick Zimmerman, having appeared as himself in multiple episodes of The First 48 between 2008-18, as well as consulting. The A&E page is gone, but I found a cached version with a photograph confirming it's him [archive].

An article from CBS MN January 2020 quotes him upon the death of a black community activist:
"It helped change the culture of the department. It helped the white officers as much as it helped the young black officers that wanted to become police officers".

To be clear, I don't think this means much in terms of racial bias, more that he is a bit of a starfucker and angling for fame. Whoever it was that predicted a run for office, that sounds about right.

Edit: more from the A&E page here c/o @Fursei. Thank you! I forgot to include caps.

It has vicious premeditated murder, sexual manipulation, Mormonism, a Karen defence atty, an aggressive prosecutor, and the murderer took the stand in her own defense for over three weeks. First clip is 15min, the rest are very brief.

Trial compilation (NSFW, the first atty is defense):

An 'expert' witness (the jury get to ask questions to each witness in AZ):

More expert testimony (juror question):

Judge's words for the expert:
 
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