The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

[Cubanodun]

It doesn't matter whether he is convicted or not, there will be a massive riot if he isn't convicted, or there will be maybe lesser riots if he is convicted but wasn't punished enough. People want free shit and will use any excuse to get it.

Like i explained it before they are going to extend this circus to reduce media interest and get a boring not guilty/mistrial because Chauvin is more valuable for them free that arrested, the grift machinery cant get a win because is against is nature, they need him free to keep saying the system is shit and they are being oppresed by the whiteys

 

[SITHRAK!]

Cardiac arrest just means your heart stopped, coroner's report also has more than 'cardiac arrest' on there

So cardiac arrest, I'm still not seeing a heart attack (a myocardial infarction) listed anywhere.

A myocardial infarction is a specific form of heart attack (most frequent being blockage of the left anterior descending, aka ‘the widowmaker’). There are many other heart related issues which can kill you without being a myocardial infarction.
The coroner is saying that Floyd’s heart went into arrest due to reasons other than MI.

 

[aussiejinjo]

wasn't there weed and caffiene in there too

floyd was a walking pharmacy

 

[SITHRAK!]

Good thing our hero Derek Chauvin was on the case and kneeled on his neck until his unresponsive

What are you, twelve? Grow up.

 

[ForTheHoard]

I admit I should care but I lost the actual ability to care years ago. Now I just want fire and burning and getting to watch it. Yes, this makes me a bad person. I'll have to live with that, I suppose.

Every time you see a combat vet on TV talking about civil war they say something like, "You don't know what you're getting into and you'll wish for anything else when it comes." I'm a combat vet and civil war would be a wet dream for me and probably 70%ish of my veteran friends. You spend so much time preparing for it that you get irritated when it doesn't come, much like being in a combat zone. Maybe they're just referring to civilians, but 3 or 4 days of bending the gallows would do wonders for domestic problems.

 

[Sheryl Nome]

A myocardial infarction is a specific form of heart attack (most frequent being blockage of the left anterior descending, aka ‘the widowmaker’). There are many other heart related issues which can kill you without being a myocardial infarction.
The coroner is saying that Floyd’s heart went into arrest due to reasons other than MI.

Man you know what could make your heart go into arrest?

A lack of oxygen.

 

[Sugar Puppet]

It's a mistake to focus on the fentanyl. He had meth and fentanyl and pulmonary edema and atherosclerosis and sickle trait. The combination of all that shit is a 1st class ticket to heart attack city.

I agree completely. I felt like the physicians and experts that were witnesses today weren't presenting in good faith by saying that in all certainty drugs and heart disease had nothing to do with his death and it was entirely Chauvin.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Every time you see a combat vet on TV talking about civil war they say something like, "You don't know what you're getting into and you'll wish for anything else when it comes." I'm a combat vet and civil war would be a wet dream for me and probably 70%ish of my veteran friends. You spend so much time preparing for it that you get irritated when it doesn't come, much like being in a combat zone. Maybe they're just referring to civilians, but 3 or 4 days of bending the gallows would do wonders for domestic problems.

Well I lived in a country in a civil war state and it sucked hard. Mainly because the probability of being killed by some asshole with a grudge, a thief breaking in or a soldier who had been up 72 hours straight from a hostile area being quick on the draw was not only high it was a 24/7 thing. Most of the time nothing happened but it could happen all of the time. Not a pleasant way to live especially when there were food shortages, which was all the time.

 

[MightyBiteySnake]

What are you, twelve? Grow up.

I'm worse; I hold state employees to a standard above "drooling violent retards".

 

[SITHRAK!]

Man you know what could make your heart go into arrest?

A lack of oxygen.

Yes, or uncontrolled ventricular tachycardia, an overdose of cardiac glycosides, several kinds of poisoning, an electric shock, aortic dissection, a penetrating injury, sudden and severe impact, thyroid storm, fungal endocarditis, heart valve prolapse, or any number of genetic conditions. Your contention is irrelevant as Floyd‘s heart showed no signs of anoxic injury (as would be seen in an infarction).

 

[Sheryl Nome]

Yes, or uncontrolled ventricular tachycardia, an overdose of cardiac glycosides, several kinds of poisoning, an electric shock, aortic dissection, a penetrating injury, sudden and severe impact, thyroid storm, fungal endocarditis, heart valve prolapse, or any number of genetic conditions. Your contention is irrelevant as Floyd‘s heart showed no signs of anoxic injury (as would be seen in an infarction).

Oh man, so you're agreeing he didn't have a heart attack? Since an infarction is a heart attack?

He went into cardiac arrest, maybe from, just maybe hear me out, being unable to breathe? Is that a possibility? From no oxygen?

 

[SITHRAK!]

I'm worse; I hold state employees to a standard above "drooling violent retards".

You can be anything you want when you’re online; why you’re choosing to reason like a child or a nigger is a complete mystery to me.

 

[Geralt of Rivia]

I love seeing "medical experts" diagnose cause of death potential here, almost as brilliant as the expert witnesses themselves.

 

[aussiejinjo]

Oh man, so you're agreeing he didn't have a heart attack? Since an infarction is a heart attack?

He went into cardiac arrest, maybe from, just maybe hear me out, being unable to breathe? Is that a possibility? From no oxygen?

and given there is a multitude of equally or more plausible explanations concerning the cause of floyd's death, that leaves us at .. wait for it.. reasonable doubt

 

[WinchesterPremium]

Well I lived in a country in a civil war state and it sucked hard. Mainly because the probability of being killed by some asshole with a grudge, a thief breaking in or a soldier who had been up 72 hours straight from a hostile area being quick on the draw was not only high it was a 24/7 thing. Most of the time nothing happened but it could happen all of the time. Not a pleasant way to live especially when there were food shortages, which was all the time.

Yeah but its fun to fantasize about. Especially if you've been to an optimal war situation (where you outgun the enemy a thousand times over, in a nation across the ocean where none of your loved ones who arn't also soldiers are in any realistic danger and all the destruction only inconveniences the locals).

 

[Not Really Here]

I'm worse; I hold state employees to a standard above "drooling violent retards".

Well this state employee, de-escalated the situation, didn't use a tazer or OC spray that would have been allowed, and allowed the suspect to lay on the ground as requested.
This state employee was in fact so gentle that he left no injury including even bruising on the suspect.

 

[Sheryl Nome]

and given there is a multitude of equally or more plausible explanations concerning the cause of floyd's death, that leaves us at .. wait for it.. reasonable doubt

Are there? So far I've had two experts tell the Jury, and have pretty good testimony, that it was from a lack of oxygen. The defense needs some serious experts to actually cast that doubt on what the experts have said so far. That hasn't been done yet.

Will it be done? We'll see.

 

[SITHRAK!]

Oh man, so you're agreeing he didn't have a heart attack? Since an infarction is a heart attack?

I’m not sure whether you’re trolling or just plain stupid.
Floyd did not suffer a myocardial infarction but he did suffer cardiopulmonary arrest. The human heart can arrest for a number of reasons. The fact that you’re angling for ‘if his heart stopped it must be ‘cause of a lack of oxygen’ tells me you’re both woefully ignorant and arguing to an unsupported conclusion you’ve already made.
Anyway, got some work to do now. Will be back in a few hours and I’ll continue to speculate over whether your IQ starts with a seven or an eight then.

 

[Niggernerd]

The man the myth the legend said it himself on that tragic day "I CAENT SNEEEEED!"

 

[Sheryl Nome]

I’m not sure whether you’re trolling or just plain stupid.
Floyd did not suffer a myocardial infarction but he did suffer cardiopulmonary arrest. The human heart can arrest for a number of reasons. The fact that you’re angling for ‘if his heart stopped it must be ‘cause of a lack of oxygen’ tells me you’re both woefully ignorant and arguing to an unsupported conclusion you’ve already made.

>woefully ignorant

No. I am telling you the information the jury has. The jury has been told to think, so far, that the cardiac arrest was from a lack of Oxygen. That is more than possible. If the defense cannot successfully cast doubt on that, -and they haven't so far-, I don't know why you expert the Jury to think anything other than the lack of Oxygen, from Chauvin restraining floyd, was the cause of the cardiac arrest and Floyd's death.