The Unofficial Kiwi Poorfag Resource Thread - share recipes and resources for your area (both government and personal) here

There is a store called Burlington (Burlington Coat Factory) it sells the overstock from high end brands and stuff for very cheap. If you go at the end of the season you can get really really good heavy coats, dress coats, etc. for as low as $10 or so. It sells tons of other things as well at a discount, but its known for its coat overstock.
 
finally a reason to use the shitty sparkling wine in my fridge that moved houses with me..
Or put a splash of créme de cassis or chambord in the glass for a bastardized kir royale.

Related: Grow your own blackthorn (sloe) bush and you can make sloe gin and/or jam for next to nothing and give them as gifts.

Another very affordable, lazy DIY gift people love is rhubarb schnapps, which requires only the fruit (rhubarb plants take almost zero work and will harvest for almost a decade), sugar, and the cheapest bottle of vodka you can find. I’m seeing bottles online for less than $2-10; point is, it would be pointless to use decent gin for this. You can get creative and add vanilla, cardamom pods or whatever, but there’s really no need.
 
There is a store called Burlington (Burlington Coat Factory) it sells the overstock from high end brands and stuff for very cheap. If you go at the end of the season you can get really really good heavy coats, dress coats, etc. for as low as $10 or so. It sells tons of other things as well at a discount, but its known for its coat overstock.
Where I live it's also known as the place everyone goes to meet their drug dealer in the parking lot. lol Maybe I need to shop in better neighborhoods...
 
One thing that I might like to peruse from time to time is...Amazon. I live out in the sticks, and sometimes the local stores don't have what I want...need...or crave.

But, I prefer not to go to regular Amazon, my poorfags/cheapskates. There are four parts of that massive retailer that help me save a few shekels from time to time with a couple of my addictions - gardening and jewelry (my delicate ears like sterling silver earrings instead of cheap Chinese steel backings, so sue me, IDC.)

The first is Amazon Warehouse. You can access it from the main site in the US. Hit the "all" button until the drop down menu appears. It's the fifth one down, just before Appliances. This is where you can snag some deals on returned merch. (Right about now is a good time to look over the Halloween/Christmas decor crap, and yes, jewelry. If it's a category that people often give as presents, this is the time of year to check it out on Warehouse.)

It's basically their "open box" department. I've saved a few bucks on everything from gardening grow bags to a salad spinner that looked brand new/untouched. I might be cheap, but I'm kind of a snot, so I don't get anything less than "very good" (which generally means the stupid box got smashed up, but the stuff inside is fine.).

I don't care if someone else looked at it, decided they didn't like it and sent it back - I just don't wanna pay retail, ok?? Like most open box deals, the discounts aren't huge. But a little here, a little there...it adds up.

The two times I wasn't happy, I could still return the merch like regular Amazon, so...still worth it to me.

Portal to the Warehouse...with explanations

My other fave is Amazon Outlet. You can't access it from the regular site. Type in "Amazon Outlet" on the ol' Googler, hit the first link and you are there.

This is their overstock section. Selection's limited, yes. There are a few refurbished things here, but the vast majority is brand new. Almost all of it is marked down some, but 50% or more isn't uncommon. You want giftable things? This works well for that. (The junior Habibis have never complained, anyways.)

Yes, there's a "clearance" section, and a "last chance" one, too. Most of this stuff is probably scattered all over Amazon's regular site, but it's nice to have it all in one place.

Portal to Amazon Outlet...

If you don't mind refurbished, yep, got you covered, cuz. Try yer luck with the appliances/electronics/Kindles here if you are so inclined. It's not for you if you HAVE to have the latest thing, but if you don't...it might be worth it. Amazon guarantees the stuff to work for 90 days (at least), but on occasion they will guarantee it for a year.

Portal to Amazon Renewed...

And for the last one, it's kinda like Amazon Outlet, but they're trying to be funny, and use cartoon monkeys. (I'll leave it up to you to determine how successful they are.)

Woot is their overstock site with the occasional temporarily deep discounted deals. For example, I got two pairs of basic sterling silver 15 mm diameter hoop earrings for $10. A single pair that looks identical is going for $13 on the regular site. So...yeah, that's not a bad deal at all. I can have a "spare pair" if I lose one of the first set, or I can afford to be generous and give the the little Habibi-ette her own pair.

The selection is the most limited of the sites, and there are purchase limits (like three or ten of any given item.). They have some deals only available on their app (no, it's not the Amazon regular one, although you still have Prime benefits if you have that on the regular site), and will have some dumb pop ups nagging you to get whatever crap you put in your cart ASAP. There's a few open box deals, "garage sale" deals, and other stuff. It's the odds and ends of Amazon. If you like thrift shops, this might be for you.

Portal to Woot.....

Okay, well...you still wanna use the regular site, OR you are outside the US, and can't access any of the above? (UK, Australia, Italy, Spain, France, Germany)? Still can help you out a bit.

CamelCamelCamel will alert you to price drops on Amazon. If there's something you covet, but you don't wanna pay whatever Jeffy Bezos thinks it's worth right now, you can make up your own price alerts. You can put in your (or someone else's) wishlists, see what the biggest drops of the day are, and customize it to your heart's content. It's NOT an Amazon company, but...so what, we're talking saving some cash here, right?

This one will theoretically give you the most options. After all, it's monitoring the entire site for price drops. Sometimes the price drop is 5%, sometimes a lot more. These deals are probably not on the other sites listed, since those are kinda Amazon's Islands of Misfit Toys. Here is where your patience may...or may not...be rewarded.

CamelCamelCamel portal...happy hunting!!

One last thing. If you don't need something from Amazon ASAP, consider picking delayed shipping on all of the Amazon sites above except Woot. You can often get a credit towards Prime Video/Kindle books. It's paid for a few "family movie nights" at Casa Habibi.

Remember...every time you save a dollar at Amazon, Jeffy's home wrecker girlfriend sprouts a chest hair.

Yeah, I know, double post here, but...Imma teach you some Japanese after seeing Pissa bitch about her utility bill for La Casa.

The word is...yutanpo.

I learned about them when living in Japan, where it can get mighty, mighty cold...and the houses have shitty insulation (if any). It is basically a hot water bottle made out of hard plastic or metal, wrapped up in a soft cover, that you put in your bed for 10-15 minutes before you go to sleep. You can shift it down to your toes or put it in between you and your snuggle bunny when it's time for bed. Fill 'er up (carefully) with boiling water, screw on the cap, put it in the soft cover, and it will keep you warm all night long...and it will still be warm in the morning, I shit you not.

These suckers are so good at keeping you warm that Japanese soldiers in WW2 used the metal ones in their sleeping bags to keep from freezing to death in places like Korea and Manchuria.....and then used the water inside to make their morning tea. Those clever Nipponese have been using them for centuries to have a good night's sleep in the middle of evil, arctic blasts.

Now, you could use a regular ol' hot water bottle wrapped in a towel, but most of them at the drugstore would melt if you put boiling water in them. These ones won't, and they stay warmer longer.

Plastic vs metal? Well...the plastic ones usually have a built-in handle to help you maneuver it into the soft cover. The metal ones can be reheated on the stove using the same water (keep the cap off while you are boiling it, duh.), so if you wanna camp or are an enviro-freak, that's the best one for you. Just be careful so you don't get burned. My klutzy ass uses the plastic ones, and it is safer for little kids, too (the little Habibis never got burned if they touched them because they were curious.).

I swear I'm NOT shilling for Amazon, but it's the place where I've seen them for sale at the cheapest price. Plastic ones with a cover can be had for around $30, and it will last you for years. Don't worry about the instructions being in Japanese, with goofy kawaii instructions. Really, all you gotta do is open the cap, fill it with hot water, put the cap back on, put it in the cover, and use the damn thing. It's simple as can be. Even Pissa and Joh could do it, but...

No worries about a space heater catching on fire or driving up your heating bill to the stratosphere. Turn down the thermostat to your heart's content if you want to. You don't have to figure out how to clean an old electric blanket. Get one of these bad boys instead.
 
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Now, you could use a regular ol' hot water bottle wrapped in a towel, but most of them at the drugstore would melt if you put boiling water in them. These ones won't, and they stay warmer longer.
I always fill my hot water bottle from the electric kettle despite fearing that one day a seam will burst and fuck my shit up. Thanks for this tip, getting one now.

This is not so much about budgeting but exploiting the megacorp retailers to save money: If you purchase something online and notice damage or even a slight imperfection upon receipt, starting a return process will often get you a refund and/or a free replacement for the item and you don’t even have to return it.
I was reminded of this the other day when we took delivery of a pouf for one of our girls’ rooms and spotted two faint, barely visible stains before even opening the plastic. (Sharing photos so you can see how minor these are and how easy it would be to conceal them — though I suspect they’ll come clean with a bit of effort.)

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This item’s MSRP was $109 and we paid $19.99, but Houzz and other sites are selling it for close to full retail. It’s a large item that came in a huge yet very light box. It wasn’t worth it for the retailer (Target) to have me return it. So as soon as I submitted the return request, the system told me to keep or donate it — no back and forth with CS necessary. (I wasn’t sure we WOULD return it when I started the process, but there’s no penalty for not completing it so I submitted anyway. I’ve done this a few times over the years and it’s really worth keeping in mind if you have a legitimate reason to get a refund on something.)

Another tip that is more one of convenience but also does save money: Uber’s package delivery service is the most time- and cost-effective way to transport items under 30 pounds when you buy locally from e.g. NextDoor or even indie shops. We got a brand new Instant Pot from someone the other day for $25 and instead of wasting our time shlepping across town, a $15 (including tip) Uber pickup had it in our hands within 30 minutes.

I can see how someone looking to make extra income could capitalize on this to buy highly marketable items for next to nothing and resell them for a tidy profit. I could have flipped that IP for at least $50 to someone I know or on another platform.

But that’s a secondary potential benefit. Time is money and being able to send a courier to pick up small items and save us a trip is well worth it (some pickups/dropoffs have been as cheap as $5 plus tip). It’s even more of a time and hassle saver since some local NextDoor sellers seem to flog shit just so they can charge a “small fee” for delivery. (One chancer this week thought he was slick asking for $25 plus gas money to drop off an item we almost bought from him, and got very irked when I replied that we preferred to use a third party courier. Bullet dodged.) We’ve even used it to help family members save money by picking up items for them during our runs to Costco or Walmart that would be a PITA to purchase in their area and/or would require a special shopping trip. They usually save enough to cover the courier cost and then some, but often we are just saving them time and tedium.

Doing a daily scan of NextDoor’s for sale section has been very worthwhile lately. We scored an incredibly comfy, beautiful $2,000 sectional for our rec room for $275 plus moving costs. It’s only a couple years old and the only flaw is a small bleach stain in a place where it’s easily covered by a throw pillow or blanket. We’re not on FB and so probably miss out on a lot of Marketplace deals but NextDoor is also more manageable to scour as the volume is not so overwhelming.
 
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My Guide to Using a pawn shop, from a guy who worked at one for half a decade

Have a smart reason for pawning an item. Making rent or replacing your car brakes is a smart reason to pawn. Buying something cheap on craigslist to flip is not a smart reason.

If you keep using the pawn shop, you will lose at some point. Pawn loans should be used sparingly.

Do not pawn something without a plan to get it out, unless you are OK with losing that item. A plan is guaranteed money you have coming in to pay the item off, like a paycheck or a check you are waiting to clear. An item you listed on facebook marketplace is not a plan.

Pay the item off right away. You can make interest payments to keep the item safe for another month, but I have watched people pay $600 over several months for an item we gave them $100, and is worth $250 at most. Know when it's cheaper to let something go.

Many pawn shops want you to get your stuff out, pawn loans are usually their bread and butter, and the best way to lose a customer is pulling their stuff.

Look up the value of your item on eBay. Specifically check the option for completed options. Green numbers mean sold, black mean unsold. Many pawn shops simply give you 40% of the green number.

Call first to see if they'll take your items. Every pawn shop has different items they refuse to take, based on current market conditions and how they have been burned in the past.

Be professional and prepared. Most pawn shops deal with junkies and retards all day, just being polite and not wasting their time goes a long way to getting what you need.

If you just want to get rid of stuff for money with no real hassle, sell it to the pawn shop. If you really want to make money off something, selling it yourself will get you at least double the money.

All in all, pawn shops should be the last thing you do (anything shadier will rape you financially). There is no way to really pick a good pawn shop, they all have shit reviews from angry customers, and you can only really tell if a pawn shop is bad after you burned.
 
The local pawn shop saved me when I went through an extremely bad time. It was impossible to save on my incredibly limited income, and as I was very sick, I was on a never ending rotation of medication and doctors. I had a gold necklace and I think I pawned the thing four or five times over an eighteen month period. If I picked it up within two weeks, the cost of the loan would be ten dollars, but it meant that I'd be able to pay for medication without having to wait an extra fortnight or grovel to my family or friends for help.

Eventually things got better. I didn't have to borrow money anymore. I still have that necklace. It's impossible to think of it as decoration anymore. Whenever I see it I feel relieved that I still have it just in case everything turns to shit again.

One or two decently weighty pieces of hallmarked gold jewellery are a good investment to have, imho. They are small enough to hide away if your living situation isn't the best, make for good collateral for loans, and are difficult enough to sell that you have to be in really serious trouble before the effort becomes worth it.

Loose gems... not so much, unless you have something really spectacular. I have some opals and sapphires that I bought directly from the miners some years back. The stones were much cheaper than had I bought them through a dealer, and all of them were professionally evaluated as nice, solid stones with fire and colour. Then opals went out of fashion, and then gemstone jewellery in general, and now pretty much everyone across the board is struggling and the only people buying are long term investors swooping in to buy thousands of dollars worth of stones for a couple hundred. End result: I have some pretty rocks in my jewellery box that are worth less than a large chunk of amethyst from one of those woo shops. They will make nice gifts when my nieces are a little older. I can't see the market ever getting better for anything other than top grade diamonds for a long time. Rich cunts love their diamonds.

So yeah. Pawn shops are pretty much the last result and will cost you a shitload of money if you are stupid with them or use them for anything other than the absolute worst resort. But if you need something incredibly important that cannot wait, like medication for example, and you have some solid gold, they can save your worthless beggar arse.

But never, ever take anything in that you cannot bear to lose if your plans to get it back go sideways. Because no matter what you're going through, believe me when I say that things can get even worse.
 
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Okay, poorfags and cheapfags with a gardening addiction......ya like roses? Because this is the time to go get yourself a rose bush, if you are so inclined. (Yes, not only the candy and bouquets get marked down after Valentine's Day. Rose bushes do, too.)

The cheapest and quickest place to get them is obviously the ginormous "home improvement" chain store of your choice. They are sure to have some of the old favorites you've known forever marked down a bit. (I picked up a couple yesterday from Tractor Supply, of all places. $12 each, couldn't resist Tropicana and Blue Girl for that price.). These are almost always off-patent roses that have been grafted onto a sturdier (and far less pretty) rose root system. Get them home, soak them in water for at least a couple of hours, and plant them into a mix of soil and compost/manure.

The selection isn't the greatest, but these are old hybrid teas that have stood the test of time. Expect to find ones like Double Delight (red and white/smells great), Mr Lincoln (classic red), Chrysler Imperial (another classic red), Midas Touch (bright to light yellow), American Beauty (deep pink), Tropicana (orange), Fragrant Cloud (orange red), Peace (yellow and pink on the edges), and Angel Face (purple with raspberry edges on the petals). The ones you find here are great "beginner" roses if you've never dealt with the Queen of the Garden before.

Most of the ones you will find will be at least moderately fragrant. Red and pink ones usually have that classic "rose" smell, while white and yellow can smell more like lemons, violets and even licorice. Orange ones usually smell sweet or fruity, and almost all purple/lavender ones smell sweet and/or spicy. Darker colors usually are more fragrant than lighter ones. More petals generally mean more fragrance, along with more thorns (sorry.....). And yes, anything with "perfume" or "scent" in the name should be on the stronger side for scent.

(Even though they are "soooo cuuuuuuute!!", leave the miniature roses behind for now. Yes, they're adorable. They're also a royal PITA if you aren't willing to baby the hell out of them. Smell? Fuggedaboutit. Go pick out a hybrid tea. Trust me on this.)

But....if you have more $, and you want something a little different.....try some of the online retailers. The cheaper ones (around $30-40) are from places like Jackson & Perkins, Park Seed, Gurney's, and Breck's. They are grafted roses like you will find at the local stores, but they have a wider selection. They also have some newer ones that are still patented (rose patents last 20 years - you can tell which ones are still patented by a little TM or a R in a circle off to the side of the name.). Jackson & Perkins has a few of theirs on sale, and you can find online coupons at Retail Me Not for the rest of them.

Still not seeing anything that floats your boat, and (hopefully) you have a fatter wallet? Then we get more options, naturally. At $50 or more (yeah, I know, I know.....) you can select from old garden roses like your great grandpappy grew back in the day, funky varieties not everyone has (like the Green Rose - I personally think it's fugly, but it has rabid fans), or brand new patented roses grown on their own rootstock. These ones should last longer than the ones you get at the first two options, especially the old garden roses. (Grafted ones might last about 10 years. The graft on top can "outgrow" the root system, the root system species can "fight" against the grafted one by sending up suckers, and other joys. That can't happen with roses growing on their own root system.)

But today, since the big Valentine's rush is over, and Mother's Day/Memorial Day/Father's Day is a ways off......you can sometimes score some nice discounts. I got myself a cute little yellow rose from Heirloom Roses for 30% off, which knocked the price down to Jackson & Perkins' level. For a potentially longer lasting rose, that I won't see around the neighborhood in everyone else's garden? Not bad, not bad at all....

OKAY, BONUS TIME FOR READING THIS FAR.....

The actual cheapest way to get a rose bush? From a cutting, naturally.

Remember when I said that rose patents last twenty years, and all that? Yeah, don't do this with a patented rose. If you are interested in trying it, get one of the cheapies from the big local retail outlets that I mentioned before. Stick it in the ground, grow it for a bit, and try your luck. Or go ask Mamaw if you can have a cutting off her old reliable out back that's been there since before you were born.

IDK what your chances are for getting caught, of course. But if you are like me, and are too pretty for jail/too cheap for a big fine, stick to the classic hybrid teas and Old Roses for this. Don't even think about doing this to this decade's "roses of the year", or something like the elusive alleged really truly blue rose that Suntory created about a decade ago, m'kay?? I'm still trying to find ANYWHERE that offers it for sale, but no joy so far. Dammit.

Go to the garden center or go online and get yourself something called rooting hormone. It's not very expensive - like maybe $6 at my local stores. Poke a hole about 3-4 inches deep with a pencil into some prepared potting soil. Select a stem from the rose bush (look for fresh green growth, between 6-8 inches, and it has recently bloomed and the flower is fading.). Remove the old, faded flower. Cut it just above a set of healthy leaves, make a small slit at the bottom of the cutting (the end away from the flower) and dip it into the rooting hormone. Remove any leaves on the bottom half of your stem that might be buried in the soil. Stick it into the soil. Keep it moist (an upside down clear plastic cup or glass jar is great for this), in a warm place that gets indirect light. Water it daily, but be careful not to have standing water surrounding the stem. It should root in about two weeks. Once they have taken root, you can plant it in your gardens, or simply transplant it to a bigger pot....taking care that the young'un doesn't freeze (in cold regions) or get cooked (in hotter ones.) while it's still growing up.

Give them some care, and you can have that super pretty coral pink one that you've loved forever....always in your garden, or a nice gift for someone who has always admired *your* roses. The technique works well for many other plants, too.
 
Go to the garden center or go online and get yourself something called rooting hormone. It's not very expensive - like maybe $6 at my local stores.
If you have a pothos, you have rooting hormone.
Methods I've tried that work:
  1. Stick a pothos cutting in the soil with whatever you're trying to grow
  2. Put a pothos cutting in water alongside what you're trying to root and leave the two together until the thing you're trying to root has roots at least 1" long
  3. Make a bouquet of pothos cuttings in a jar with water, steal water from that jar to encourage other things to grow roots
 
Food wise for making stuff last:

1. Sounds counterintuitive but get a Costco membership. Gas is 20 cents ish cheaper a gallon, at least in the Midwest, so you’ll save the $120 or so for the black membership over the year. Prices on loss leaders like rotisserie chicken are also really low. If you get the more expensive $120 membership, you get 2% cash back each year. Spend more than $6000/year on Costco food and house stuff (doable if you mostly shop there or let family use your membership, edited for math), and come out ahead. I’m sure we all could spend $500/month or more on all our food and home stuff if any of you degenerates has a family.

2. Those 4.99 mutant whole rotisserie chickens? Huge. Buy them. Get three meals from. First, eat chicken and a bulk carb (rice and quinoa are less than $2/pound, rice as low as 40 cents a pound), along with bagged frozen vegetables. Take the chicken off that is easy to get, but don’t take it all off.

Second meal, attack your chicken. All the meat off, strip it down. You’ll end up with a lot of small pieces and shredded bits. Make tacos or chicken pasta or chicken salad depending on what you have to hand.

Third meal: I hope you didn’t throw away the sad chicken carcass and any scraps left. Now you can dump that and any other veg or food scraps you might compost into a big pot of water. Make stock. Soup is, well, soup. Throw in whatever you have to hand that might taste good.

3. If you have them, get a farm share (you can often pay the cost for the season ahead of time in installments). Or shop at farmer’s markets. If you have too much of something, you can usually freeze it.

4. Kiwis, poor or not, stop buying bread! You can make it, no bread machine needed. You just need a covered oven-safe container, such as a Dutch oven or round pot, an oven, flour, and yeast. Lots of recipes for different easy bread. Takes 10-20 minutes to put together your mixture and mix it, then you can leave your bread on the counter or in an empty appliance or other humid area (for a faster rise). If you have pets, cover it well. Bake per Internet recipe. Put honey in the mix or use half wheat/half white flour if you’re picky or have little ones. Your loaf will be round or oblong, but perfectly good to eat and just as good as the $6-8 artisan store bakery bread.

5. Cereal is expensive, shrinkflated to all hell, and the Kellogg CEO basically said lately “if you can’t afford to eat properly, eat cereal for dinner.” Let them eat cake, indeed. So don’t eat commercially packaged cereal, which saves money. Other people can have eggs or milk, but as I’m allergic to a lot of stuff, I make granola. Dead easy. Buy rolled oats. In bulk. Cheap. That’s the base. Get smaller amounts of nuts, honey or syrup, cooking oil, dried fruit, cinnamon, any other non-spicy spices you like. Mix sweetener and oil with a little salt in a bigass bowl. Coat your oats and nuts with that, be pretty thorough but you don’t want them soaked. Throw everything but optional dried fruit onto a baking sheet, crush larger items down to roughly the same consistency with a rolling pin, wine bottle, or large spoon. Break up any big clumps of stuff. Cook low and slow per Internet recipe until it smells toasted, but isn’t completely dried out. If you want dried fruit or raisins, add after baking.
 
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I don't know where else to put this because in Q&A I'll just get retarded replies. But books are expensive and second hand shops are too hard to find. At least here. Plus the best books donated end up on Amazon anyway. Sometimes I get free books from the trash. But that's rare. I also have limited space so I can't have ten tons of books here. I already need to jettison some. I assume this is poorfag adjacent enough to fit the thread.

I thought the library would be a solution. But I have a problem. In 1996 I got some books out of the local library and went to the supermarket. They made you check your bag before you could shop. You had to leave your bag on a ledge by where the security guard stood. The regular guard wasn't there. It was just some guy I didn't know who wasn't even paying attention. And either he gave my bag to the wrong person or someone stole it. When I went to return my bag clip for the matching one my bag was not there.

I went to the library and explained the situation. They told me I had to pay $60. I went back several times and asked if the books had been returned by somebody else. They hadn't been. And they wouldn't let me take anything out until I paid. My family was too poor to pay the money and I was like 16 and afraid of getting into some kind of trouble if I went back. So I never went back there for years.

Then some years later I went there and chickened out over trying to get a new card. I was also rather shocked at how noisy it was in there. They let kids talk so loud now. It was like being at Chuck E Cheese. So it's no place to sit and read I guess. *sigh*

So it's been almost 30 years and five addresses ago. Do I still owe $60?
 
I don't know where else to put this because in Q&A I'll just get retarded replies. But books are expensive and second hand shops are too hard to find. At least here. Plus the best books donated end up on Amazon anyway. Sometimes I get free books from the trash. But that's rare. I also have limited space so I can't have ten tons of books here. I already need to jettison some. I assume this is poorfag adjacent enough to fit the thread.

I thought the library would be a solution. But I have a problem. In 1996 I got some books out of the local library and went to the supermarket. They made you check your bag before you could shop. You had to leave your bag on a ledge by where the security guard stood. The regular guard wasn't there. It was just some guy I didn't know who wasn't even paying attention. And either he gave my bag to the wrong person or someone stole it. When I went to return my bag clip for the matching one my bag was not there.

I went to the library and explained the situation. They told me I had to pay $60. I went back several times and asked if the books had been returned by somebody else. They hadn't been. And they wouldn't let me take anything out until I paid. My family was too poor to pay the money and I was like 16 and afraid of getting into some kind of trouble if I went back. So I never went back there for years.

Then some years later I went there and chickened out over trying to get a new card. I was also rather shocked at how noisy it was in there. They let kids talk so loud now. It was like being at Chuck E Cheese. So it's no place to sit and read I guess. *sigh*

So it's been almost 30 years and five addresses ago. Do I still owe $60?
Try this website if you're looking for free books,easy to use and no torrenting involved:
 
I don't know where else to put this because in Q&A I'll just get retarded replies. But books are expensive and second hand shops are too hard to find. At least here. Plus the best books donated end up on Amazon anyway. Sometimes I get free books from the trash. But that's rare. I also have limited space so I can't have ten tons of books here. I already need to jettison some. I assume this is poorfag adjacent enough to fit the thread.

I thought the library would be a solution. But I have a problem. In 1996 I got some books out of the local library and went to the supermarket. They made you check your bag before you could shop. You had to leave your bag on a ledge by where the security guard stood. The regular guard wasn't there. It was just some guy I didn't know who wasn't even paying attention. And either he gave my bag to the wrong person or someone stole it. When I went to return my bag clip for the matching one my bag was not there.

I went to the library and explained the situation. They told me I had to pay $60. I went back several times and asked if the books had been returned by somebody else. They hadn't been. And they wouldn't let me take anything out until I paid. My family was too poor to pay the money and I was like 16 and afraid of getting into some kind of trouble if I went back. So I never went back there for years.

Then some years later I went there and chickened out over trying to get a new card. I was also rather shocked at how noisy it was in there. They let kids talk so loud now. It was like being at Chuck E Cheese. So it's no place to sit and read I guess. *sigh*

So it's been almost 30 years and five addresses ago. Do I still owe $60?
Our library had a fines amnesty after covid fucked up returning books on time. Your debt has probably been forgiven.
 
So it's been almost 30 years and five addresses ago. Do I still owe $60?

Almost certainly not. Your record didn't survive that long. Libraries switch from database to database, and data gets lost. The books you lost-- and their associated fines-- have long since been purged from the system.

I would be truly surprised-- to the point of being utterly shocked-- if you still owed $60 after 30 years.
 
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