The Walking Dead

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at least i think fear is pretty decent
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The first season was alright, albeit really disappointing. They kinda indicated that we'd see more of the fall of society when zombies happen. What did we get? A quarantined neighborhood, a prison camp, and a boat. It wasn't the worst season, but it was a letdown. Even just ONE more episode showing the pandemonium in a large metropolitan area would have made me feel more better than the time skip to the military presence. I also really hoped we'd see that kid with the knife show up and stab a zombie in the head to save madison, and have him grin at the camera with a tube of mentos.
The second season had an interesting premise that I thought could have worked: zombie show on a boat. Our heroes bop around dealing with pirates, dangers on the sea, and stay close enough to shore to hit up the land for supply runs and such. But, nah. They scrapped the boat idea pretty quick. Then there was an island, then there wasn't. Then we have zombie worshipping hippie mexicans that dupe Nick with some posole, and that went up in flames. Last half of the season in a hotel/resort and the Colonia...just a lot of nothing doing. The most interesting part was the journey Travis and Chris have, which resulted in Travis being in my favorite scene in the whole season (where he beats the holy fuck out of the dude-bros that killed Chris/got Chris killed). The rapid-conflict-resolution that occurs in this season is so weird. Season one was kinda slow, this season was breakneck speed, and nothing really happens and we don't get to see the characters grow or be even likeable.
Season three was the best of this series, and had some interesting conflict in it that seemed so "human" and real. The conflict between the Otto family on Broke Jaw Ranch and Walker's tribe is over fuckin' land. And after that came to a head, we got to have the interesting tension between the ranch people and the tribe having to live in the same place and nobody liking each other. Then there's the B story with dam Daniel, and that was a problem that came off pretty realistic (as realistic as walking corpses can be), and how both groups wind up at said dam where we are ultimately introduced to what I thought would be the antagonists moving forward: The Proctors. I liked the Proctors. I liked Proctor John. The season ends with the Proctors still alive, we see Walker and Crazy Dog still alive, we know that the Madison-clan is still alive but separated. AND! We know that the following season is gonna have a crossover with a character from the OG Walking Dead. Because this is in Texas, and closer to the beginning of the apocalypse, I would have loved to see MY MAN, Abraham 'Mother Dick' Ford show up for a few episodes before meeting Eugene and heading off to DC. But, no. Let's not do that.
Fucking sucked. Fucking stupid shit everywhere. Fuck you, Gimple. Fuck you and your new writers.

Alicia still has an amazing ass, though. So that's about it.
 
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I find it funny that most people lost interest in the comic when Negan was introduced. Myself included. So everyone was looking at the show curious if they could somehow fix this problem.

Nope.

I assume when the show finally ends is when Kirkman will finally euthanize the comic. And it looks like that'll happen soon with the ratings being tremendously down.
 
BrunoMattei said:
I find it funny that most people lost interest in the comic when Negan was introduced. Myself included. So everyone was looking at the show curious if they could somehow fix this problem.

Nope.

I assume when the show finally ends is when Kirkman will finally euthanize the comic. And it looks like that'll happen soon with the ratings being tremendously down.
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If Kirkman was smart, he would have ended it when the previous arc ended. Most people agree the whisperer arc was the best that the comic ever saw and that it's build-up, villians and overall presentation were some of the best we've ever seen from Kirkman, I stand by saying that if anyone were to start reading the comics and stop reading at issue 168, nothing of value can be gained from reading onwards. Robert really drank the sjw cool-aid and literally within panels, the entire comic changed to being about race, sexuality, social class and privilege, whilst the characters nobody really liked (plus Michonne and Eugene) were thrust into the spotlight as the new main characters, the old characters were forgotten about (I believe it was almost a year in real time before rick, carl or anyone else was even drawn or mentioned). I stopped reading it a year ago and I have yet to see a reason to go back besides nostalgia.
I consider the comic to have died with andrea, it's only fitting that it's best character spelt the end of my former favourite comic
It's also telling that the arc that made TWD comic very popular is the same arc that killed the TV show, almost like it was living off the hype of the comic and normies or something...
 
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Not sure if this is necroing a dead thread (ironic given the subject) but I grew a bit nostalgic and wondered if anyone has any thoughts on the Telltale series.

I gotta admit, I grew up along with that series, playing S1 in my PS3 back in the day since I was into the zombie craze, including the TV show (back when it was still good)

S1 always felt the best to me to this day, it just had a natural if not sometimes rushed flow (given it was just 5 episodes per season instead of the usual 13 the TV show had and the continious issues with the comic). It felt extremely ballsy to kill your main character and they do it in such an amazingly touching way that it brings many into tears to this day, Lee was an amazing character...and sometimes I wonder if killing him off wasnt a bad decision in the grand scheme because S2 really suffered with us having to play as a mostly helpess kid surrounded by oddly incompetent adults that keep relaying on her (because the player needs shit to do).

I could go on about how S2 and especially 3 were ultimately disappointing and how 4 was able to get things back on track for the most part (tho it was pretty too late for the company...bankrupcy and all).

But what you guys think?
 
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The handsome tard said:
Not sure if this is necroing a dead thread (ironic given the subject) but I grew a bit nostalgic and wondered if anyone has any thoughts on the Telltale series.

I gotta admit, I grew up along with that series, playing S1 in my PS3 back in the day since I was into the zombie craze, including the TV show (back when it was still good)

S1 always felt the best to me to this day, it just had a natural if not sometimes rushed flow (given it was just 5 episodes per season instead of the usual 13 the TV show had and the continious issues with the comic). It felt extremely ballsy to kill your main character and they do it in such an amazingly touching way that it brings many into tears to this day, Lee was an amazing character...and sometimes I wonder if killing him off wasnt a bad decision in the grand scheme because S2 really suffered with us having to play as a mostly helpess kid surrounded by oddly incompetent adults that keep relaying on her (because the player needs shit to do).

I could go on about how S2 and especially 3 were ultimately disappointing and how 4 was able to get things back on track for the most part (tho it was pretty too late for the company...bankrupcy and all).

But what you guys think?
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1st one was the best, 2nd was mixed for fans, 3rd was a disappointment, 4th got it right too late, and no one fucking cares about the michonne one at all
 
Deadwaste said:
1st one was the best, 2nd was mixed for fans, 3rd was a disappointment, 4th got it right too late, and no one fucking cares about the michonne one at all
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There was a 400 days one there somewhere too....meh who cares, its not like it affected anything like they promised it would.

Shit like that is what got OG Telltale canned.
 
So, this show is still going ... lol. I know it's currently on the last season, but I honestly stopped watching regularly once Carl was killed off. The show was on its last thread before then (don't get me wrong), but killing Carl off was the final straw for me.

I have seen a few episodes here and there since-- specifically the one with Alpha's infamous red line scene from the comics. I'd say that the series did a better job adapting that big moment over how they completely botched Glenn's death.

Anyway, I will defend TWD comic books. I read the entire series, and I really don't have much to complain about. The series, however, is an absolute dumpsterfire and it's been that way for a little over 5 years now. lol.

The comics were so good that when my favorite character, Glenn, was killed brutally, my next favorite character ended up being the guy who killed my previous favorite character. The comics were solid stuff, and the comics ended on a note that I found to be more than satisfying.

The handsome tard said:
Not sure if this is necroing a dead thread (ironic given the subject) but I grew a bit nostalgic and wondered if anyone has any thoughts on the Telltale series.

I gotta admit, I grew up along with that series, playing S1 in my PS3 back in the day since I was into the zombie craze, including the TV show (back when it was still good)

S1 always felt the best to me to this day, it just had a natural if not sometimes rushed flow (given it was just 5 episodes per season instead of the usual 13 the TV show had and the continious issues with the comic). It felt extremely ballsy to kill your main character and they do it in such an amazingly touching way that it brings many into tears to this day, Lee was an amazing character...and sometimes I wonder if killing him off wasnt a bad decision in the grand scheme because S2 really suffered with us having to play as a mostly helpess kid surrounded by oddly incompetent adults that keep relaying on her (because the player needs shit to do).

I could go on about how S2 and especially 3 were ultimately disappointing and how 4 was able to get things back on track for the most part (tho it was pretty too late for the company...bankrupcy and all).

But what you guys think?
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I love the Telltale Games TWD, overall. Clementine became my favorite TWD character altogether, to be quite honest.

Season 1 is amazing, 400 Days was cool for world-building even if it wasn't necessary, Season 2 is almost every bit as good as Season 1, couldn't bring myself to get invested in Season 3 since it focuses on an entirely different main character, and Season 4 is a more than satisfying conclusion-- especially since there was a huge possibility that the season was going to remain unfinished since the OG Telltale Games went belly-up in mid-season.

I have not played the Michone game, lol.
 
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So, this show is still going ... lol. I know it's currently on the last season, but I honestly stopped watching regularly once Carl was killed off. The show was on its last thread before then (don't get me wrong), but killing Carl off was the final straw for me.

I have seen a few episodes here and there since-- specifically the one with Alpha's infamous red line scene from the comics. I'd say that the series did a better job adapting that big moment over how they completely botched Glenn's death.

Anyway, I will defend TWD comic books. I read the entire series, and I really don't have much to complain about. The series, however, is an absolute dumpsterfire and it's been that way for a little over 5 years now. lol.

The comics were so good that when my favorite character, Glenn, was killed brutally, my next favorite character ended up being the guy who killed my previous favorite character. The comics were solid stuff, and the comics ended on a note that I found to be more than satisfying.



I love the Telltale Games TWD, overall. Clementine became my favorite TWD character altogether, to be quite honest.

Season 1 is amazing, 400 Days was cool for world-building even if it wasn't necessary, Season 2 is almost every bit as good as Season 1, couldn't bring myself to get invested in Season 3 since it focuses on an entirely different main character, and Season 4 is a more than satisfying conclusion-- especially since there was a huge possibility that the season was going to remain unfinished since the OG Telltale Games went belly-up in mid-season.

I have not played the Michone game, lol.
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Carl sucked. It's good thing he died
 
Oats12345 said:
Carl sucked. It's good thing he died
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Carl is awesome in the comics.

The TV series did that character dirty in every which way. Such a shame.

But still, the point of Carl's character is that he represents the future of humanity. That was the entire point of the comic books-- that Rick did the stuff that he did because his son made him believe that the future for humanity was not hopeless. Carl died unceremoniously in the TV series all because the writers decided they wanted to "subvert expectations," and the show's ratings have been lukewarm-to-bad ever since.
 
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Carl is awesome in the comics.

The TV series did that character dirty in every which way. Such a shame.

But still, the point of Carl's character is that he represents the future of humanity. That was the entire point of the comic books-- that Rick did the stuff that he did because his son made him believe that the future for humanity was not hopeless. Carl died unceremoniously in the TV series all because the writers decided they wanted to "subvert expectations," and the show's ratings have been lukewarm-to-bad ever since.
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Yeah I'm talking about the show version.

Carl sucked I'm happy he's dead. The show is doing fine since he died.

The character kept leading to other people's death. It got very annoying
 
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Yeah I'm talking about the show version.

Carl sucked I'm happy he's dead. The show is doing fine since he died.

The character kept leading to other people's death. It got very annoying
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I will give the tv series this much credit:

Once the new writer came in, the decision to make the time jump happen was a smart move. I still wouldn't call the show great from what I have seen in the newer episodes, but it's by no means as dumb or as bad as it was back in season 5, 6, 7, and 8. 6 was a really good season overall until that damn cliffhanger though.

I did recently watch the "Here's Negan" episode, by the way. It was quite good, and it captured the tone of the comicbook backstory of Negan. I like Jeffrey Dean Morgan, however I haven't been thrilled with his portrayal of Negan, and I honestly think it's because of the writers and the directing. I don't feel like the showrunners "get" Negan ... Either that, or he's just plain impossible to accurately adapt outside of comic book or cartoon form. This past episode was pretty good, though.
 
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I will give the tv series this much credit:

Once the new writer came in, the decision to make the time jump happen was a smart move. I still wouldn't call the show great from what I have seen in the newer episodes, but it's by no means as dumb or as bad as it was back in season 5, 6, 7, and 8. 6 was a really good season overall until that damn cliffhanger though.

I did recently watch the "Here's Negan" episode, by the way. It was quite good, and it captured the tone of the comicbook backstory of Negan. I like Jeffrey Dean Morgan, however I haven't been thrilled with his portrayal of Negan, and I honestly think it's because of the writers and the directing. I don't feel like the showrunners "get" Negan ... Either that, or he's just plain impossible to accurately adapt outside of comic book or cartoon form. This past episode was pretty good, though.
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I do understand what your saying. What do you think Judith. I like her as a character
 
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Judith is essentially filling in for Carl ... And is acting a lot more like comic book Carl than TV show Carl ever did.

I like her.
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What a bizarre what if the TV show kind of went...since ya know

Judith is fucking dead in the comics since the end of the prison arc. Its funny because I knew there was no way the show could get away with killing a newborn (and even then, it was an extremely risky move from Kirkman in the comics that Im sure he had to work hard for it to be allowed to happen and even then, the death was rather quick and "hidden" by her mother's dead body ontop of her).

You know what I found somewhat meta about the telltale series?

If you truly think about it, Lee continues to guide Clementine even after his own death. How? Us. We were Lee and even after his body dies, we remain still deciding Clem's choices and dialogues, showing part of Lee is still there with her.

Maybe Im looking too deep into it but thats how I like to interpretate it
 
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The World Beyond was fucking AIDS. Fuck the creators for saying we had to watch it in order to understand the end of the show.
 
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