The Walking Dead

You know, I know this might not be the thread for it (tho I dont think that there is much to talk about to justify starting a thread solely dedicated for it) but I have read Crossed recently

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To specify, I read Crossed, Crossed Family Matters and Crossed Psychopath

And oh boy, I just get this "The walking dead but disgustingly edgy" vibe. Did you think Garth Ennis was edgy when writing The Boys comic? Bitch, you havent seen Garth when you tell him to write the most disgustingly edgy shit. And I do mean that I think this is Garth at his worst.

The basic premise is that, for whatever reason, a lot of the population suddenly become these "Crossed" individuals, and they are basically murderous sadistic rapists with no regard about humanity and morality. They can infect you with their body fluids, which implies a scientific origin but there isnt any explanation found (rather lazily I might add). This came in 2008 (I think) so 5 years after the TWD comics were out (2 years before the TV show tho) so you can imagine the comics were getting quite a bit of traction already among the industry and this whole thing feels like Garth's "answer" to TWD...as if to say "TWD is tame compared to our stuff"...and it is but its not better. The TWD comics are flawed but they still kept you engaged for the most part, Crossed basically keeps you relatively hooked to see what is going on at first but it eventually becomes all about the shock value.
And I think this is what ultimately becomes the selling point of this brand, the exploitive shock value...now I wont show you any of it because I think its best experienced as you read (cough,itsonReadComicsOnlinetho, cough). It catches you offguard at first but it once I got into Family Matters, I realized that this follows a patern.

1- Introduce group, most of them are bland at best and outright unlikable at worst
2- Have them be picked off one by one from reasons that range from bullshit to absurd
3- Make absolutely sure to show every gruesome detail, including the rape (The Crossed are big fans of that)
4- Eventually "conclude" (or rather stop) following whatever is left of the group by the time the volume ends.

The ironic thing is that I just feel this TWD DNA all over Crossed, tho I have no idea what Garth is trying to say with this series...humans are all monsters just one "whatever event" from snapping into our true grotestic nature? I dont necessarily disagree with that world view but it feels borderline cartoonish to the extends that Garth goes to REALLY send that across. The premise seems rather similar to The Crazies from George Romero (if its a coincidence that both Crossed and TWD are based off of Romero movies, Im not sure) except the Crossed are waaay more vicious and even smarter. And the main character of volume 1 looks suspeciously like Rick Grimes

Dont believe me? Check it out.

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Getting a "can I copy your homework? Sure, just dont make it too obvious" vibe...

I guess my issue is that I feel like Crossed had potential as a setting but instead it allows itself to indulge on pointless shock value that leads to desensibilization real quick, by the time I read Psychopath, I felt just kind of done because the shock value just felt predictable and boring at that point. At least Crossed V1 tried to keep some level of self control but I guess they decided to make the shock value the whole point of reading these comics so there is that. I almost want to try to imagine Crossed getting a TV show like TWD and realising the sheer futility of it because even on HBO it would be far too much...but if they tamed the shock value, then we wouldnt have that much of what to invest because Crossed lacks hard on the character departament...they all feel like caractures or weaker versions of characters you would find in TWD or any other survival show...also the always shrinking parties kind remove any sense of investment because you know almost none of these characters are sticking around (killing your characters doesnt equal realism and good writing automatically)

I guess I just felt like sharing my disgust with this brand and I guess its kind of my fault for going into this brand, with the reputation it has, and expect any different but I kind of expected a more explicit and violent TWD and I kind of got that in the most extreme way possible to the point of utter lack of investment. Curious to what others think (and again, sorry if this goes out of topic too much but I doubt there is much to say about Crossed so making a dedicated Thread is kind of pointless)
 
You know, I know this might not be the thread for it (tho I dont think that there is much to talk about to justify starting a thread solely dedicated for it) but I have read Crossed recently


To specify... Crossed Family Matters...
Crossed Fresh Prince was better.
 
Personally Crossed Full House was my favorite
Shun.

Edit: To bring it more on topic. Holy shit I haven't watched this show in years. Who even is supposed to be the main character these days?
 
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I couldn't get past the first part of season 2. The moment they said "We can't shoot the zombie in the well because it will taint the water!" I was rooting for them all to die because even a retard would realize a bloating, putrid corpse would have already tainted the water.
 
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Edit: To bring it more on topic. Holy shit I haven't watched this show in years. Who even is supposed to be the main character these days?
Even the show struggled with that and basically up to last season split the group in multiple groups to resolve the problem of who the fuck is the lead supposed to be.

There hasn't been a lead since Rick, and there still isn't.
 
Yeah I have sperged at length about how absolutely worthless tryhard garbage crossed is multiple times over the past few years so I have little to add beyond agreeing with consensus here.

Just thank fuck its planned live action web-series a decade back never materialised and pray to whatever deity you believe in that it doesnt wind up riding the success of The Boys to get its own live action series on netflix or the CW....because holy fucking shit just imagine how bad the godawful cringe of latter year edgetard trash would be when spliced with the total cancer of currentyear wokesped melodrama bullshit

Let the mainstream fixation with the zombie genre die with the walking dead and be forgotten. For all of our sakes
 
Oh fuck me.

I watched the second episode, which I thought was an improvement on the first one, especially the ending.... and then I accidentally let the retarded featurette shit play while I was doing other stuff. That fucking retarded chink went

'Well what we tried to illustrate in the subway scene was class struggle, that when everything went down, the rich were killed by the poor and the homeless.. you see there's this man who tried to flee the zombies and all he took with him was a suitcase full of cash... how useless was that'

Go fuck yourself AMC how hard is it to make a fucking zombie tv show without having to try and shove communism in it?
 
Oh fuck me.

I watched the second episode, which I thought was an improvement on the first one, especially the ending.... and then I accidentally let the retarded featurette shit play while I was doing other stuff. That fucking retarded chink went

'Well what we tried to illustrate in the subway scene was class struggle, that when everything went down, the rich were killed by the poor and the homeless.. you see there's this man who tried to flee the zombies and all he took with him was a suitcase full of cash... how useless was that'

Go fuck yourself AMC how hard is it to make a fucking zombie tv show without having to try and shove communism in it?
I don't watch that shitty interview stuff. I mean the show itself doesn't discuss or imply stuff like that. So I just ignore the shitty interviews
 
I don't watch that shitty interview stuff. I mean the show itself doesn't discuss or imply stuff like that. So I just ignore the shitty interviews
I didn't pick up any of that shit but I also was half paying attention. Glad to know it wasn't front and center.

Good thing it's ending because two more seasons and we'd have someone scold someone else for misgendering a zombie.
 
This show is testing my fucking patience at this point and literally the only thing worth watching are the scenes with Neegan. I don't know if I'm gonna be able to do more than skip the rest of the season, ask what the good episode then watch them, or maybe just drop the whole show altogether.
 
Well, those 8 episodes were shit, what a fucking waste of time, it's really time for Walking Dead to die. World Beyond is so fucking bad, I've watched the first three episodes this season, and I literally cannot tell you anything that happened. Not even kidding. It's that fucking forgettable that I watched an episode this morning and I couldn't tell you anything that happened except some girl sat in a classroom at some point.

On the other hand.... holy shit the premiere of Fear the Walking Dead was great. Turns out that post-nuclear apocalypse, zombies, Strand and none of the other faggots made for a fucking great episode. Probably FtWD's best episode, most definitely top 3 and overall easily in the top 10 of all WD universe episodes.
 
Last October, my husband re-read all of the Walking Dead comics while also finally reading the end for the first time. He was not disappointed.

This October, he's now trying to re-watch the show and make an attempt to get up to date (since he stopped watching the series when Carl unceremoniously croaked). He said that enough time has passed to the point where he's curious enough to start checking out the show again. Good luck with that, hubby. Haha.

I watched all of season 1 with him; it had been several years since I had seen it. It's still a really effing good season, and the pilot episode is still amazing. What AMC did to Frank Darabont still absolutely sucks ass. Le sigh.
 
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