The “would the earth be better if Germany won WWII” debate thread - The hypothetical on if we’d all be better off speaking German

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

It'd be the exact same bullshit, including the mass migration of desert niggers and islam protectionism lol
Where the fuck do people get this shit that life would have bee better under ((((German rule))))

 

[JambledUpWords]

It'd be the exact same bullshit, including the mass migration of desert niggers and islam protectionism lol
Where the fuck do people get this shit that life would have bee better under ((((German rule))))

Probably because some seem to think Nazis = based, and that somehow would translate into Europe being better off. Really, I’d think that if they somehow succeeded, they’d have the same issues over time that the Soviets had in maintaining power, since both forms of government were highly centralized. This meant that any internal issues would have massive consequences for the nation and all territories. Also, who is to say that people would have been as into Nazi ideology the longer it went on? The late Soviet period saw trouble in getting younger people to have the same enthusiasm for their government that the older generations had.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Or Mandarin. At least mandarin is a tasty language.

Honestly, I think we’re currently seeing the attempts to take over the world by those that speak Mandarin.

Absolutely not. Tens if not hundreds of millions of innocent people would have been murdered if the Nazis had won. And on a purely personal level, presuming the Nazis somehow conquered the US I doubt American Slavs would be treated better than Eastern European Slavs, and I like not being dead or enslaved thank you very much.

I wonder how far /pol/ could get in trying to convince you before noping the the fuck out.

It'd be the exact same bullshit, including the mass migration of desert niggers and islam protectionism lol
Where the fuck do people get this shit that life would have bee better under ((((German rule))))

Probably because some seem to think Nazis = based, and that somehow would translate into Europe being better off. Really, I’d think that if they somehow succeeded, they’d have the same issues over time that the Soviets had in maintaining power, since both forms of government were highly centralized. This meant that any internal issues would have massive consequences for the nation and all territories. Also, who is to say that people would have been as into Nazi ideology the longer it went on? The late Soviet period saw trouble in getting younger people to have the same enthusiasm for their government that the older generations had.

The thing about “Nazis winning means things would be better” is because 1. Jewish extermination which gives /pol/ a hard on, and
2. Right wingers are saying that with all the things like child grooming, LGBT, and pronouns and trans and non binary folks in many places like the military and the Biden Administration (there was a picture in France recently of two such people according to them) that has Twitter going “Russia, China, and Iran are laughing at us now”,

we have reached a point where they say grandfathers fighting and dying on the beaches of Normandy and in the jungles of Guadalcanal just wasn’t worth it in the end because the world they fought and died for…led to current year. And they say they now have a veteran proving their claims.

So the right (especially the exiles) feels that if Hitler won, his Holocaust and purged would lead to nothing but like minded Aryan harmony among the peoples of the world, and any shit about trying to introduce pronoun in your bio or trying to teach LGBT thought to children will get you quickly lined against a wall and shot. And anything like Antifa would get crushed quickly. Basically, the idea that “the world would be better if the Nazis won” is rooted in the idea that “Nazis wouldn’t have any time for any woke bullshit since the only response would be the ‘Dig the fucking hole!’ meme”.

Honestly, the fact that Hitler had plans to take over the world alone is enough for me to think that those folks are full of shit.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Honestly, I think we’re currently seeing the attempts to take over the world by those that speak Mandarin.

I wonder how far /pol/ could get in trying to convince you before noping the the fuck out.



The thing about “Nazis winning means things would be better” is because 1. Jewish extermination which gives /pol/ a hard on, and
2. Right wingers are saying that with all the things like child grooming, LGBT, and pronouns and trans and non binary folks in many places like the military and the Biden Administration (there was a picture in France recently of two such people according to them) that has Twitter going “Russia, China, and Iran are laughing at us now”,

we have reached a point where they say grandfathers fighting and dying on the beaches of Normandy and in the jungles of Guadalcanal just wasn’t worth it in the end because the world they fought and died for…led to current year. And they say they now have a veteran proving their claims.

So the right (especially the exiles) feels that if Hitler won, his Holocaust and purged would lead to nothing but like minded Aryan harmony among the peoples of the world, and any shit about trying to introduce pronoun in your bio or trying to teach LGBT thought to children will get you quickly lined against a wall and shot. And anything like Antifa would get crushed quickly. Basically, the idea that “the world would be better if the Nazis won” is rooted in the idea that “Nazis wouldn’t have any time for any woke bullshit since the only response would be the ‘Dig the fucking hole!’ meme”.

Honestly, the fact that Hitler had plans to take over the world alone is enough for me to think that those folks are full of shit.

To be a really massive asshole for a minute, I would like to use the opportunity to say, these dudes fought and won WW2. Then they, well, the Americans at least, had the chance to live through some of the best decades in human history. And they fucking wasted it all.

 

[Certified_Autist]

I think there's a bit of confusion/miscommunication in this thread. "Better" doesn't neccesarily mean good, or without any problems.

Would a world in which Germany won be "better" in some aspects? Probably. Would it be problem-free? No. Many others have compared a possible future progression of Nazism to the decline of the Communist party in Russia- that comparison does hold water, and it is likely that Nazism would have splintered or become less hardline over time like the Communists did.

I could see Nazi Germany eventually going in the direction of China- the ruling party holds on to power, and long-term political and economic growth happens by dropping ideologial puritanism and resorting to pragmatism. Hitler after his death might become a Mao-esque figurehead in that he is held in high regard and is a major cultural symbol, but his actual ideology would be pretty much ignored for pragmatic reasons.

If you get over the loss of life as a direct result of the war and the Nazi campaigns against Jews etc. and only look 80 years into the future chances are the world would be a much better place politically. For the whole western world WW2 acts as some kind of founding myth for the liberal world order - a battle between the good guys and bad guys that “we” won. The more time passes the more Nazis get made into this cartoonishly evil bogeyman used by all political sides to define the virtue of their ideology simply by some metric of political distance to Nazism. Maybe without this sentiment there would be no moral basis or public support for things like mass immigration from third world countries. Europe and the Anglosphere would still be “racist” to some degree, which might arguably be a good thing. Also uncontested Japanese Asian dominance is probably better in the long run than getting fucked by the Chinese now. There’s a million little things to consider obviously, but my short answer would be yes, we would be better off if Hitler won.

Sorry for necro-ing your comment but this is essentially my opinion as well. Hitler was not a good leader and Nazi Germany was flawed from the outset, but them winning would lead to better (not neccesarily good, but "better") circumstances than what exist today.

To be a really massive asshole for a minute, I would like to use the opportunity to say, these dudes fought and won WW2. Then they, well, the Americans at least, had the chance to live through some of the best decades in human history. And they fucking wasted it all.

I agree. Everyone likes to shit on boomers, but who created them?

I find it remarkable how the so-called "greatest generation" completely and utterly failed to teach their children anything or pass their values on en masse. They themselves had "traditional" parents, were raised in "traditional" society, but totally failed to give that to their children.

The Greatest Generation was the first generation in history that did not raise their children. They outsourced the raising to public school and television, and thus the Boomers learned not from tradition, but learned from public school and television.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I think there's a bit of confusion/miscommunication in this thread. "Better" doesn't neccesarily mean good, or without any problems.

Would a world in which Germany won be "better" in some aspects? Probably. Would it be problem-free? No. Many others have compared a possible future progression of Nazism to the decline of the Communist party in Russia- that comparison does hold water, and it is likely that Nazism would have splintered or become less hardline over time like the Communists did.

I could see Nazi Germany eventually going in the direction of China- the ruling party holds on to power, and long-term political and economic growth happens by dropping ideologial puritanism and resorting to pragmatism. Hitler after his death might become a Mao-esque figurehead in that he is held in high regard and is a major cultural symbol, but his actual ideology would be pretty much ignored for pragmatic reasons.

Honestly, that makes sense. I just don’t think that there’s be the same pragmatic expansion of influence that China’s doing.

 

[draggs]

No, because Germs are Germs. A Greater Germ Reich bestriding Europe and Africa/the Middle East like a colossus most likely would have got into a nuclear war with the Jewnited States within a generation. Germs were like that and only arent like that anymore because they lost the war

 

[JambledUpWords]

Regardless of this hypothetical, it is undeniable that the Eternal Anglo was able to outsmart the (((Nazis))).

 

[Butterschmalz]

I dont know if the world would be better. But it seems to me that the turning point for the "white" or the European Idea was the defeat in Stalingrad. Which was also decisive for the outcome of the war. Since then we have been living in a weird world (clown world). Some call it "jewish Reality". Sexual revolution, diversity, the idea that you have to look at having kids from a financial perspective and so on is not European. So yeah Germany was the last drop of white blood spilled, the last try for western civilization to expend (eastwards). And now its time to get cucked. Take it or leave it.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I dont know if the world would be better. But it seems to me that the turning point for the "white" or the European Idea was the defeat in Stalingrad. Which was also decisive for the outcome of the war. Since then we have been living in a weird world (clown world). Some call it "jewish Reality". Sexual revolution, diversity, the idea that you have to look at having kids from a financial perspective and so on is not European. So yeah Germany was the last drop of white blood spilled, the last try for western civilization to expend (eastwards). And now its time to get cucked. Take it or leave it.

View attachment 3497635

Can you imagine how the soldiers who stormed the beaches of Normandy would have reacted if they saw this? They'd have signed up for the Wehrmacht and marched on DC.

Honestly, it’s all so tiresome. It’s amazing how easily impressed someone will be if you say you’ll get rid of a certain group of people.

If Germany won, I’d imagine that there’s only more systematic killing and purged of opponents. And the whole “ Based Benedict Arnold” act is pretty stupid. There’s gotta be something to fight for, even if it’s just your girlfriend or the family farm.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

You'd have to be a real edgelord to unironically think that it would be better if the axis won World War II.

 

[Random Internet Person]

You'd have to be a real edgelord to unironically think that it would be better if the axis won World War II.

Or a /pol/ user. And maybe Gab as well.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Or a /pol/ user. And maybe Gab as well.

It's also extremely tiresome when people assume that if only Germany won World War II, there would be less degeneracy.

Yeah, maybe in the very, VERY short term.

When they criticize degeneracy, it often comes across as virtue-signalling at best. Especially since that was a very pressing issue to many Germans in the Weimar republic.

If you take even a passing glance at far-right ideologues, you'd realize that they are very frequently sexual degenerates as those on the far-left. Trannies on twitter have a high likelyhood of identifying with national socialism, although that likelihood isn't as high as them identifying with communism. The Buffallo shooter was looking at furry porn right before he did what he did. And then there's the Nazi furs and alt furs. We've got threads on those too.

There was evidence that Adolf Hitler was a degenerate himself, as there were reports of him being into scat and being an impotent soyboy and compulsive coomer. He tolerated the homosexuality of his fellow nazis until he decided that it was politically expedient to purge them (probably because the German people were getting more fed up with the sexual degeneracy in their society than even himself).

In a similar vein, it's kinda interesting how people think that China is socially conservative and will stay that way, and yet they're already trooning kids out in Shanghai. Russia likely also has problems with its culture slowly becoming sexually degenerate, despite their conservative party's best efforts.

 

[TJT]

I mean, in a big way the West has been a victim of its own success. Even if Germany won it's likely that they too would become victims of their own success in some other way. Unfortunately.

 

[Mothra1988]

/pol/-Nazis are retards. I think my favorite part is the idea that Nazism was essentially anti-LGBT when Rohm and the brown shirts were notorious for being flaming gay and fucking each other in the butt which lead to Hitler actually going on record defending them over it before he of course turned on them later to consolidate power. These same autists continually tell white people they must abandon Christianity due to its jewish roots, but will they abandon national socialism due to its gay roots? LOL.

Anyways, no America would not be better if it was ruled by Nazi Germany, and stormfags' own grandparents would have rightfully put a bullet in their brains if they actually lived during World War II and tried to act on their dumb ideas.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

In a world where the Axis won the second world war and the world was turned into something loosely similar to the world of TNO (The axis defeat all of their major opponents with only the exception of America with the war drawing to a stalemate) I think the world would be something like this:

The world would be divided into five spheres or worlds.
The first sphere is the pro American sphere
The second sphere is the German block
The third sphere is the Italian Empire along with it's vassals and friendly nations
The fourth sphere is the Japanese Empire and their East asian co-prosperity sphere
The fifth sphere is more of a wastebasket taxon to describe the rest of the world much like how we use the term third world in our cold war.

These spheres are more or less (at least somewhat attempted) isolated from each other both culturally, domestically political, and potentially physically (in case of physical barriers) from each other. However all spheres interact with the fifth sphere geopolitically and the second and third sphere interacts with each other regularly (after all they share a border). The first sphere does regularly interact with the other spheres but in a more cold fashion. The point is that you would see different developments happening in these individual sphere that would take a considerable force to might break into the other spheres.

Overtime the geopolitical situation would change overtime and a possible winner to this world's cold war might happen. But overall humanity would experience a different but similar change of motions compare to our world.

 

[Esau]

Germany simply could not win, sodomites explicitly spite God. In all possible timelines, the German Reich is obliterated

 

[Terrorist]

Wishing you fellas a happy 8/8. Would be a happier one if certain things had gone differently!

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Even though Germany would be nationalist would there still be sorta globalist machavelions arising from a triumphant Nazi state like a Nazi Klaus Schwab?

 

[Afinepickle]

Nah, all Germany winning WWII would've done is put all the gay as fuck globo-homo shit that Germany is currently trying to impose on the world via the EU into the express lane. The only difference would be the coat of paint.

Now if Germany won WWI on the other hand then yes, literally every single corner of this currently godforsaken planet would have benefitted from it in some capacity and every single facet of modern life would be infinitely less shitty.