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There's no way to fix the Second Amendment. Let's just get rid of it​

Who says history doesn't repeat itself? It sure does when it comes to the aftermath of mass shootings.

After Columbine, Aurora, Sandy Hook, Orlando, Virginia Tech, Margery Stoneman Douglas, El Paso, Buffalo, Uvalde and so many others, it's always the same.

First, shock. Then, grief. Then, a demand for action. Then, the phony claim: Too bad, but we can't do anything about guns because of the Second Amendment. And then, nothing is done to prevent the next attack.

This time, could things be different? After the senseless assassination of 19 elementary school students and two teachers in Uvalde, Texas, senators of both parties are actually talking about a compromise on guns.

But don't hold your breath. No matter what they come up with, chances are still slim that there will be 10 Republicans willing to override the filibuster. (A total of 60 votes are needed to end a filibuster in the evenly-divided US Senate.)

Anything they agree on will probably just nibble around the edges of the gun issue. Sen. John Cornyn, the lead Republican negotiator, has already vetoed one of the most sensible proposals: raising the legal age for buying an assault weapon from 18 to 21 years.

There's no way, especially in this election year, that Republicans will let anything out of the Senate that would ruffle the feathers of the National Rifle Association.

President Joe Biden's proposals come close to what's really needed, with his bold call for universal background checks, eliminating ghost guns and renewing the ban on assault weapons. But even that's not enough to convince some conservative Americansthat the Second Amendment is an open license arm themselves, even with weapons that belong on the battlefield.

Let's face it. The way many judges and conservatives interpret the Second Amendment is a total con job. And, as wildly misinterpreted today, it is, for all intents and purposes, a license to kill as many people as you want with as many guns as you want.

The only effective way to deal with the Second Amendment is to repeal it — and then replace it with something that makes sense in a civilized society.

I'm hardly the first person to say that the Second Amendment has been a disaster for this country. In fact, two Supreme Court justices — justices appointed by Republican presidents — have said as much.

In a March 2018 opinion piece for the New York Times, former Justice John Paul Stevens, who was appointed by then-President Gerald Ford, wrote that Americans protesting the massacre of 17 people at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School "should demand a repeal of the Second Amendment."

He explained: "A constitutional amendment to get rid of the Second Amendment would be simple and would do more to weaken the NRA's ability to stymie legislative debate and block constructive gun control legislation than any other available option."

And decades earlier, in 1991, former Chief Justice Warren Burger, appointed by President Richard Nixon, told the PBS Newshour: "If I were writing the Bill of Rights now, there wouldn't be any such thing as the Second Amendment.

Burger called the Second Amendment "one of the greatest pieces of fraud — I repeat the word 'fraud' — on the American people by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime."

The words: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Read it again. There's no way you can logically leap from those 27 words about the existence of a state militia to the unfettered right of any citizen to buy as many guns — and any kind of gun — that they want, without the government being able to do anything about it.

It's clear from the wording of the Second Amendment itself that it has nothing to do with individual gun ownership; nothing to do with self-defense; and nothing to do with assault weapons. The amendment speaks, not to the rights of well-armed individual citizens, but only to citizens as members of a group, a "well regulated militia."

And its history is well-known. The founders saw no need to mention guns in the original Constitution. As many constitutional scholars and American historians have shown, the Second Amendment was added later by James Madison as part of a deal to secure the support of Patrick Henry and other White racist Virginians for confirmation of the Constitution. Noted academic Carol Anderson, for one, describes the "anti-Blackness" that lies at the heart of the Second Amendment in her book "The Second," as well as its "architecture of repression."

As such, it was not about self-defense. It was, in the opinion of these historians, about reassuring Whiteplantation owners that the new federal government would not interfere with their practice of forming White militias to patrol the South, ready to put down rebellionby disgruntled Black slaves or chase down slaves who tried to flee.

And again, the amendment has nothing to do with self-defense or allowing ownership of any kind of gun. As Stevens noted in his New York Times op-ed: "For over 200 years after the adoption of the Second Amendment, it was uniformly understood as not placing any limit on either federal or state authority to enact gun control legislation."

Two things changed that. First, a band of gun extremists took over the NRA at its 1977 annual convention in Cincinnati and changed its mission from championing the Second Amendment as the right of hunters to giving every American the right to own a gun for self-defense. The NRA proceeded, successfully, to sell that unfounded idea of self-defense to politicians and the general public.

Second, in 2008, former Justice Antonin Scalia wrote the majority opinion in District of Columbia v. Heller,which — again for the first time in over 200 years — established the right of every American under the Second Amendment to own a gun for self-defense. And he rounded up four other votes.

However, it's important to note that even in Heller, Scalia took pains to argue that as with other rights, those granted under the Second Amendment are not unlimited — and that governments retain the power to regulate what kind of guns, or how many, people may own.

Of course, those provisions of Heller are conveniently ignored by gun worshippers like Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, who uphold the Second Amendment as reinterpreted by Scalia. That flawed reasoning allowed a Texas teenager to buy two AR-15's on his 18th birthday, walk into an elementary school and mow down 19 students and two teachers.

We are a sick nation indeed, if we allow that idiocy to stand.

Of course, it won't be easy to repeal the Second Amendment. It would require a constitutional amendment, passed by two-thirds of the House and Senate and three-quarter of the states. Or a constitutional convention, called by two-thirds of the states, with any proposed changes approved by three-quarters of the states. But, difficult or not, it's still the right thing to do.

We are condemned to more and more mass killings until we do the right thing: Stop arguing about the Second Amendment — and just get rid of it.
 
I can think of a way to fix the second amendment

Scrap that "regulated militia" shit and just let us have unrestricted access to high-power weaponry
"Well regulated" means kept up to date and in working order, but most people are too illiterate to understand that.

Plus it says, the right of "the people" to "keep and bear arms," not the right of "the militia." It's pretty clear they wanted the citizens to be armed to some degree.
 
Any successful legal challenge to the 2nd Amendment would weaken every other amendment in the Bill of Rights. So, no.

Also, the people you want to disarm are armed and don't agree with or like you. So, definitely no.

Plus it says, the right of "the people" to "keep and bear arms," not the right of "the militia." It's pretty clear they wanted the citizens to be armed to some degree.
There was no standing army at the time. The people were (and are) the "militia."
 
The sad reality is that the people who want to remove guns aren't worried about death. After all they kill babies by the millions and celebrate it.
They are just worried you can stop their pet chimps from destroying your homes and taking your stuff.
Hell hath no fury like an Antifag denied his violent revolution by a chubby teenager with a budget rifle.
 
“We are condemned to more and more mass killings until we do the right thing: Stop arguing about the Second Amendment — and just get rid of it.”

these niggas foam at the mouth at the mass shooting and murder of 19 children so they can use it as fuel to ban guns and say “gotcha!” to republicans.

why tf should i be punished bc some gayboi shot up children somewhere?
 
“We are condemned to more and more mass killings until we do the right thing: Stop arguing about the Second Amendment — and just get rid of it.”

these niggas foam at the mouth at the mass shooting and murder of 19 children so they can use it as fuel to ban guns and say “gotcha!” to republicans.

why tf should i be punished bc some gayboi shot up children somewhere?
I mean, liberals kill hundreds of kids a day and celebrate it, lets not kid ourselves about what this is.
 
How about you focus on the real problem, which is mental illness?
I don't even like guns and I agree with this. Let people own guns, fix the hand that pulls the trigger to not want to pull it in the first place. We could be like Britain right now and have fun stabby problems instead if we get rid of guns but not the drive to spree kill.

There is no way to fix journos. Let's get rid of them.
There's no way to fix pedophilia. Let's just get rid of it.
Finally, based and redpilled.

The sad reality is that the people who want to remove guns aren't worried about death. After all they kill babies by the millions and celebrate it.
They are just worried you can stop their pet chimps from destroying your homes and taking your stuff.
From a libcuck perspective, it isn't that: it is that a lot of liberals are genuinely ignorant of gun violence in general. There's kids and adults shooting each other in the hood now, but most liberals don't notice if they're in a nice neighborhood with news that only occasionally covers some violent crime with guns. Humans who have it good are generally ignorant of the outside in general. Most of it is out of retardation and lack of exposure rather than genuine malice for their fellow man.

It's also false equivalence in a sense: some babies will have a terrible quality of life if they aren't terminated, whether it is generic or because the mom cannot provide for the baby due to being a heroin addict or something. Terminating things that have already crawled out of the womb is unthinkable to all except the most extreme. It may not be the way you see it, but it is how they view themselves. Only cows and sociopaths would terminate a child's life for fun or their own game, and you could see that with Ralphamales vs Troons. I would say they don't care about death when (like other political parties) they wish natural disasters like hurricanes onto republican areas and other shit flinging like that.

Taking away guns is a child's solution to the problem. No gun, no violence, right? But the math is much more complex. The author is a retard and should be sent to shadow teachers at prison schools so they can figure out why they did it. Alternatively, ship said journo to a gun free country with a high crime area and let them have a multicultural stabbing of peace.
 
You look at this picture and tell me he’s a man
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What a nice looking old person, I certainly hope he never gets beaten into a coma by a youth that didn't accept a Werther's in lieu of his wallet and car, that would be terrible and very preventable with judicious application of a firearm in self defense
 
Fine. There's a process for repealing amendments. It's been used before. Put it up to a vote.

... what's that? Gun control is fucking dead at street level, even among the left? They've finally made the logical step that if they don't trust the police to protect them, they'll have to protect themselves?

Well then.
 
Fine. There's a process for repealing amendments. It's been used before. Put it up to a vote.

... what's that? Gun control is fucking dead at street level, even among the left? They've finally made the logical step that if they don't trust the police to protect them, they'll have to protect themselves?

Well then.
It's nice to see who publicly agitates for it regardless, it keeps things in perspective. Also with any luck the robbers, burglars and rapists will just keep a directory of "easy marks" so everyone else can save on ammunition, getting expensive these days dontchaknow
 
This is why I hang out in the A&H, so much to learn. This remains the sole thing about America that I've still not at least partially wrapped my head around.

I get the practical cynicism, you can 't get rid of this amendment because nobody wants to be the first person to back down on owning their gun, and you're all very jumpy because you know everyone else has guns, I think I get that. You're not getting rid of sad bastards who want to shoot schools up, because it's just social wear and tear at this point. You can't put faith in either the police to help responsibly, because they're too corrupt or inept, nor can you trust the black people, since they're only qualified and solvent for organised crime. The media is obviously going to try and pretend this is unbecoming and embarrassing for the greatest nation in the world, even though I'm pretty sure you can't work in a newsroom over there without a shooting range membership. Even President Biden has to pretend that he thinks arming teachers is crazy while he waves his dual wielded shotguns in his dog's face.

But is that it, unironically? Like no snarkiness, for all the libtard memes and macho posturing and strange equivalencies about abortion, is the message that we're not getting outside that you actually don't feel safe in your own country, from minorities, from crazy people, from corrupting influences from gays and socialists, from your own "white supremacist" law enforcement, that you genuinely believe that teachers and schoolchildren should be trained and armed with guns? So the only practical solution to mass shootings is mass deterrence? Or is it that routine shootings with automatic firearms is just the expected price to pay so one can defend one's own turf? Is this what's going on? When Wayne LaPierre describes a world that's almost predatory, did that actually gel with your reality? I'm going to guess that you hold the 2nd Amendment in such broad esteem less because of what it actually, logically means, but rather than what it stands for - that the founders of your country anticipated the pragmatism of civilians having protected access to weapons, thus granting a unique means of self-agency and protection found almost nowhere else on Earth? Is that it? I'm sorry if this sounds like a Spock monologue, I'm genuinely trying to figure it out. I seriously want to understand what people are experiencing that makes the idea of any reduction of civilian access to machine guns unacceptable.
 
All right, time for a little lesson.

You will note, if you take a look at it, that the actual wording of the 2nd Amendment does not, in fact, specify firearms at all. It specifies weapons. This is important because the 2nd Amendment is not about guns at all - it is about the fundamental human right of self-defense. It is an inalienable human right because the ability to protect yourself, your family, and your property is fundamentally central to your own ability to self-determinate.

If you do not have the ability to defend yourself, you essentially do not have any other meaningful right, because those rights can be taken from you by fiat of the government or an angry mob.

That is the reason this journoswine hack wants you disarmed - not just guns, but any meaningful ability to defend yourself - so that when his fucking buddies who get blatantly preferential treatment from nakedly corrupt law enforcement decide to fuck up your city, your home, your family, when the cops decide to pull a Chris and shit their pants and do nothing, you can't do shit other than submit. Blatantly unconstitutional horse-shit like Duty to Retreat laws are another part of this ongoing campaign.

If there is anything I am thankful for the Summer of Love for, it's showing how important weapon ownership is for the average citizen, because this issue is dead as shit at the state level.

Any idea of how to deal with Californian liberals since they are probably still pushing gun control even now.

And here is this soft cunt, there is also that other one as well.

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And the other one.


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How the hell is this nation been held hostage for a long time by soft bubble living cunts like these two right here lol as a showcase.

I can't imagine any of these two been anywhere close to MLK Blvd lol.

Also don't forget Micheal Moore as well.

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Fine. There's a process for repealing amendments. It's been used before. Put it up to a vote.

... what's that? Gun control is fucking dead at street level, even among the left? They've finally made the logical step that if they don't trust the police to protect them, they'll have to protect themselves?

Well then.
The USA's cultural distrust of authority tends to win out in the end. It's not always a good thing, but it is necessary and I'm grateful we have it, even if it manifests in stupid ways.

I love my drunk retarded fellow Americucks. I love other countries too, but there's no place like home.
 
1 day away from the federal reserve raising interest rates almost 1 %, market has lost about 1500 points, The supply chain is disrupted by diesel shortages you bet the faggots want the second amendment removed ASAP once the shortages start up because they're slaves to the state and cant survive without it.
 
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