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Almost all implying the majority? The 2 youtube links above show 1 asian guy who you believe is "Derich" even though I have never seen Derich tip in DSP's streams. Also, nothing in that video proves legitimate mental retardation. The second link is just a link to a youtube channel with a guy obsessed with panties of Street Fighter characters. No link to DSP whatsoever. Also, lets assume they are legitimately mentally challenged. Then how do they get the money to donate to DSP consistently (by your definition they are whales, so they must donate large amounts consistently).

Who asked you to spoonfeed me? That is a rude thing to say to someone. You used a quote from this call as evidence against DSP. You should be able to bring up the context of it immediately. Otherwise, it sounds like you are just taking words and phrases out of context, which is exactly what DSP claims against you.

Again, since you said I asked you to spoonfeed me, let me spoonfeed this to you: the arbitrator clearly stated those are not just business expenses but all expenses including expenses we would normally consider as not business related. When you take all expenses into account, 5000 is understandable.

I will check the other thread for the discord leaks when I have time. I agree that the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. But when your ENTIRE claim rests on it, you should be able to provide a link or something. From what I saw, it looks like the guy wrote a powershell script that basically outputs a bunch of nonsense that looks legitimate. It would be good to see a link to the actual "mesh" he is referring to. I mean, would you not also want absolute proof?
Almost all implying the majority? The 2 youtube links above show 1 asian guy who you believe is "Derich" even though I have never seen Derich tip in DSP's streams. Also, nothing in that video proves legitimate mental retardation. The second link is just a link to a youtube channel with a guy obsessed with panties of Street Fighter characters. No link to DSP whatsoever. Also, lets assume they are legitimately mentally challenged. Then how do they get the money to donate to DSP consistently (by your definition they are whales, so they must donate large amounts consistently).

Who asked you to spoonfeed me? That is a rude thing to say to someone. You used a quote from this call as evidence against DSP. You should be able to bring up the context of it immediately. Otherwise, it sounds like you are just taking words and phrases out of context, which is exactly what DSP claims against you.

Again, since you said I asked you to spoonfeed me, let me spoonfeed this to you: the arbitrator clearly stated those are not just business expenses but all expenses including expenses we would normally consider as not business related. When you take all expenses into account, 5000 is understandable.

I will check the other thread for the discord leaks when I have time. I agree that the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. But when your ENTIRE claim rests on it, you should be able to provide a link or something. From what I saw, it looks like the guy wrote a powershell script that basically outputs a bunch of nonsense that looks legitimate. It would be good to see a link to the actual "mesh" he is referring to. I mean, would you not also want absolute proof?
I'm not opposed to fair debate about topics, so let's do things by your rules. (with the small caveat that I am not about to post fifty links per point because obviously you're able to research)

- he treats people that support him and try to help him improve like human garbage.

- he's racist and xenophobic.

- admits to a gambling problem.

- his personal life is ruled by paranoia.

- No matter how much money given to him/earned monthly, he is always behind on bills and taxes.

- As per his paperwork on the bankruptcy, if his household was operating at a net loss of $30 per month for an extended time and that $9000 monthly expense came along he would have lost everything then and there, as per his own admission he never had money saved.

- If he was operating as any other entity, his 'positive contributions' looks exactly like the textbook definition of 'extortion' and 'financial abuse of a vulnerable person'.

- If, after a '12 year legacy', if he misses even an hour of scheduled streaming it could lead to the collapse of everything he's worked for he has either: A) not learned how to manage finances or budget or B) uses this as a false distress call to elicit money.

- Has no clue about how the legal systems work. If the system is used against him, people are criminals who know how to avoid being caught, or it is a systemic problem that boils down to him being the biggest and often only victim.

- Speaking of laws, when he's caught off guard he will threaten people with physical violence, frivolous lawsuits, or both.

- If you so much as look at anything detractor related (unless it is coming from him directly) you are a detractor.

- He is misogynistic.

- He uses semantics or flat out lies when confronted with things he has lied about or things he has said that are provably untrue.

I could keep going but this is monotonous and it is just stuff pulled from his streams. If you want to verify, please do watch the hundreds of hours worth to do so.

Oh, and welcome.
 
Answer what? I literally do not care about any of these points or if DSP has spent 40k. Literally my only question has been do you have a link to the fucking code. The only reason the conversation has continued is because you all felt offended that someone could possibly disagree with you and thus started insulting me. If your argument is solid my points should have been easily debunked. I don't know years of DSP lore and shit like you all. I literally saw a post on youtube saying it is 100% him and that there was a statistical linguistics tool to prove it and I was curious since I could not find that tool anywhere online.

But I'll take a crack at the above points just as a 3rd party person and present possibilities. I make no claim on their likeliness in this answer:

1) I looked up signs of lying and literally did not see anything about "avoiding saying [the name]" of the subject at hand. I would guess that him doing that is basically a way to make people forget about the issue or devalue it. He did the same thing with superhound by calling him super burnout. Phil basically seems like the kind of guy who talks himself up to make himself seem bigger than he is, as a defense mechanism. but it doesn't come across to me as a "lie", more of a defensive mechanism. He does 2 things by pretending he is not aware of something or by deliberately not saying names of something: 1) new people dont know what he is talking about and have a harder time finding the lore 2) he makes himself sound like he doesn't care which is beneficial for the reason above

2) I did see the clip where he admitted he played it. So some reasons I might not show my username to the public: I use the handle on multiple accounts and it's an identifiable handle which a google search in some other sites might reveal more information about me; if my username is known publicly, I will be harassed in-game, or my friends in game will not associate with me. Online handles provide a level of anonymity. That is what I can think of right now. Based on your point, the WWE guy was kciked out of guilds after it was known he could possibly be DSP. Seems like DSP might be aware of the hate he gets online and doesn't want to get kicked out of whatever group he is in.

I do agree however that it would be easy to disprove this. I'm just saying why it's possible he doesn't. It could be he is hiding something else.

3) Probably the same reason there are multiple people in the world called David Smith? just before creating my account, I looked up a handle I was going to use and found it was used on some pinterest-esque accounts. I don't see how this evidence that they are the same person.

Follow up question to the above point - once the possible link was made, was the WWE account deleted? or did the guy leave his account up? if it's still up, that is more evidence to me that they are not the same person. If I am trying to hide my profile, I would delete it so people don't have the chance to analyze it. I saw this exact situation happen on summit1g's stream: someone he played with was doing incredibly well, and someone looked up the gamer tag handle and found it in a forum for game hacks. When the player was accused, the profile was deleted.

4) Who got kicked out of guild after guild after guild? WWE guy? Sounds like he did try to prove he is not DSP but no one listened or believed. Again, as a random user, why do I want to post my face and identity just because people associate with a random online personality who happens to have the same online handle as me?
TheyCallMeDSP/TheGunShow84/DownFromTheRafters on 2 occasions with different factions had the chance to prove he wasn't Phil, and when he wouldn't was kicked out. Both time faction leaders said they kicked him out because he wouldn't do it. They were asking for this because they themselves were being doxxed over this.
 
For the people in the back who don't get it, it isn't any one particular item that is lynchpin in DSP either being tied to WWE Champions or him being a shitheel. It's the entire body of evidence that makes it hard to deny. Sure the Discord leaks could have possibly been doctored to make it seem like the 2 accounts were identical. Sure there could be a great explanation for why NotDSP talks and acts exactly like DSP. Sure there could be an awesome explanation for why he has $5k+ in business expenses and $5k+ in personal expenses that granted him the bankruptcy. Sure it could be coincidence that DSP has played WWE Champions and that there is an account in that game that uses DSP's Twitter handle and possibly all his mobile game login names as its own. But the culmination of all these circumstantial evidences built ontop of eachother make the possibility that each one of those items of evidence carry more weight as a whole than they would their separate pieces because it would be implausible to create a story that fulfills all of the requirements that each point needs to be true for it not to be DSP.
 
Because you came into this thread demanding answers to questions that have already been discussed and looked into, instead of just doing the research yourself.
Have you read the entire WWE Champions thread? No?
Because it's not the responsibility of anyone in this thread to tell you absolutely every detail of every circumstance. The average poster here isn't that involved with Phil and probably only pops in every now and then for a quick laugh.
I know it's a typical mentality on the modern internet where, if you spend 10 minutes of your day insulting something, that means you're "obsessed" and it "lives in your head rent free." But just because someone thinks lowly of Phil, doesn't mean they're a walking encyclopedia of why he's a shithead. The way I see it, you only need "he snorts a lot" as a valid reason to dislike him. And by the way, if people are instantly believing that Phil is a liar, that's Phil's own fault for establishing a reputation of a liar.
It's also annoying people that you show your newfaggotry with every post. For the love of God, stop doubleposting.

I get that you all are not respionsible for linking it. It was a request. If you didn't want to do it you could have just said so. There was no need for the insults.

To be fair, it's not just 10 minutes of your time. It's a 5000+ page thread just on this thread. And then you have hundreds of other threads. But that's not really my concern.

If people instantly believe you are a liar, you might be giving off that persona, you might actually be a liar, OR the people believing you are a liar may not be the best judges.

What is doubleposting?

Lmao just chill bro we're here for laughs. And right now you are the joke. How many more pages are you planning on arguing?
until I feel tired or bored. I'm fasting and I'm trying to distract myself from food.
 
Answer what? I literally do not care about any of these points or if DSP has spent 40k. Literally my only question has been do you have a link to the fucking code.
You literally just said it was the crux of our argument.
I looked up signs of lying and literally did not see anything about "avoiding saying [the name]" of the subject at hand.
That is super autistic of you.
He did the same thing with superhound by calling him super burnout.
That is definately not the same thing. Calling someone an insulting name and calling a game a more generic name (in this case "WWE mobile game") are quite different.
3) Probably the same reason there are multiple people in the world called David Smith? just before creating my account, I looked up a handle I was going to use and found it was used on some pinterest-esque accounts. I don't see how this evidence that they are the same person.
Yeah, I'm sure someone just called themselves "TheyCallMeDSP". Totally a coincidence. This is sarcasm by the way.
Follow up question to the above point - once the possible link was made, was the WWE account deleted? or did the guy leave his account up? if it's still up, that is more evidence to me that they are not the same person. If I am trying to hide my profile, I would delete it so people don't have the chance to analyze it. I saw this exact situation happen on summit1g's stream: someone he played with was doing incredibly well, and someone looked up the gamer tag handle and found it in a forum for game hacks. When the player was accused, the profile was deleted.
Deleting his profile would be pretty hard for an addicted whale who spent 40k. I mean would you just throw away 40k? And he's changed his names multiple times.
4) Who got kicked out of guild after guild after guild? WWE guy? Sounds like he did try to prove he is not DSP but no one listened or believed.
Why does it sound that way? I didn't say anything about him presenting any evidence. Again this is getting really suspicious, It seems like you have quite the vested interest here. You don't sound like a neutral outside party, you sound like someone who wants to see DSP proven innocent.
 
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3) Probably the same reason there are multiple people in the world called David Smith? just before creating my account, I looked up a handle I was going to use and found it was used on some pinterest-esque accounts. I don't see how this evidence that they are the same person.

Follow up question to the above point - once the possible link was made, was the WWE account deleted? or did the guy leave his account up? if it's still up, that is more evidence to me that they are not the same person. If I am trying to hide my profile, I would delete it so people don't have the chance to analyze it. I saw this exact situation happen on summit1g's stream: someone he played with was doing incredibly well, and someone looked up the gamer tag handle and found it in a forum for game hacks. When the player was accused, the profile was deleted.

4) Who got kicked out of guild after guild after guild? WWE guy? Sounds like he did try to prove he is not DSP but no one listened or believed. Again, as a random user, why do I want to post my face and identity just because people associate with a random online personality who happens to have the same online handle as me?
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But do you share an interest with any of those pinterest accounts? WWE is a topic that Phil is clearly passionate about, to the point where he refuses to be open about it and lying as to how much he enjoys it (claims he stopped following recent events, bans a longtime fan of his for posting spoilers)
That is including, of course, Phil's known habit of playing gacha games and even spending money on lootboxes of games that he doesn't intend on playing a lot (Hearthstone)
So a guy is playing a WWE gacha game with Phil's exact online handle? Do you see how wild of a "coincidence" this is?
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Because apparently this game is important enough to drop thousands of dollars on? And it would be so easy to disprove it, he doesn't even have to share his name and face, his voice would be enough. Trying to contact Phil on Discord would be enough. Trying to contact Phil during his streams would be enough.
And if he didn't know who Phil was before, it certainly wouldn't be hard to learn now. For a time, whenever Scopely announced news on Twitter, their feed would get flooded by Darksydephil memes, he could put in the effort to learn how to find him.
Darksydephil has lied numerous times as to not knowing what Discord is or how to use it, but that's been irrefutably proven false with the DMCA fiasco. So why doesn't he try to reach out to the WWE Guy and get this whole mess sorted out? Doesn't Phil care about how people are continuously getting doxxed over this? It'd be so easy to put an end to the detractor meme and make us all look like assholes.
 
TheyCallMeDSP/TheGunShow84/DownFromTheRafters on 2 occasions with different factions had the chance to prove he wasn't Phil, and when he wouldn't was kicked out. Both time faction leaders said they kicked him out because he wouldn't do it. They were asking for this because they themselves were being doxxed over this.

...they felt pressured because they were being doxxed? even though they did nothing wrong? Wow, so people who don't like their personal information/activities to be disclosed online, even if they did nothing wrong?
 
I'm not opposed to fair debate about topics, so let's do things by your rules. (with the small caveat that I am not about to post fifty links per point because obviously you're able to research)

- he treats people that support him and try to help him improve like human garbage.

- he's racist and xenophobic.

- admits to a gambling problem.

- his personal life is ruled by paranoia.

- No matter how much money given to him/earned monthly, he is always behind on bills and taxes.

- As per his paperwork on the bankruptcy, if his household was operating at a net loss of $30 per month for an extended time and that $9000 monthly expense came along he would have lost everything then and there, as per his own admission he never had money saved.

- If he was operating as any other entity, his 'positive contributions' looks exactly like the textbook definition of 'extortion' and 'financial abuse of a vulnerable person'.

- If, after a '12 year legacy', if he misses even an hour of scheduled streaming it could lead to the collapse of everything he's worked for he has either: A) not learned how to manage finances or budget or B) uses this as a false distress call to elicit money.

- Has no clue about how the legal systems work. If the system is used against him, people are criminals who know how to avoid being caught, or it is a systemic problem that boils down to him being the biggest and often only victim.

- Speaking of laws, when he's caught off guard he will threaten people with physical violence, frivolous lawsuits, or both.

- If you so much as look at anything detractor related (unless it is coming from him directly) you are a detractor.

- He is misogynistic.

- He uses semantics or flat out lies when confronted with things he has lied about or things he has said that are provably untrue.

I could keep going but this is monotonous and it is just stuff pulled from his streams. If you want to verify, please do watch the hundreds of hours worth to do so.

Oh, and welcome.
BUT! Where's the evidence!? I see no evidence? Can you provide the links and evidence of any of this?! Goddamn you guys are sad! What? I'm mad! What do you mean I'm mad!?! You guys are the ones who are mad!!!! *inevitable 10 pages worth of tard rage* - TheyCallMeAutistic......probably
 
Answer what? I literally do not care about any of these points or if DSP has spent 40k. Literally my only question has been do you have a link to the fucking code. The only reason the conversation has continued is because you all felt offended that someone could possibly disagree with you and thus started insulting me. If your argument is solid my points should have been easily debunked. I don't know years of DSP lore and shit like you all. I literally saw a post on youtube saying it is 100% him and that there was a statistical linguistics tool to prove it and I was curious since I could not find that tool anywhere online.

But I'll take a crack at the above points just as a 3rd party person and present possibilities. I make no claim on their likeliness in this answer:

1) I looked up signs of lying and literally did not see anything about "avoiding saying [the name]" of the subject at hand. I would guess that him doing that is basically a way to make people forget about the issue or devalue it. He did the same thing with superhound by calling him super burnout. Phil basically seems like the kind of guy who talks himself up to make himself seem bigger than he is, as a defense mechanism. but it doesn't come across to me as a "lie", more of a defensive mechanism. He does 2 things by pretending he is not aware of something or by deliberately not saying names of something: 1) new people dont know what he is talking about and have a harder time finding the lore 2) he makes himself sound like he doesn't care which is beneficial for the reason above

2) I did see the clip where he admitted he played it. So some reasons I might not show my username to the public: I use the handle on multiple accounts and it's an identifiable handle which a google search in some other sites might reveal more information about me; if my username is known publicly, I will be harassed in-game, or my friends in game will not associate with me. Online handles provide a level of anonymity. That is what I can think of right now. Based on your point, the WWE guy was kciked out of guilds after it was known he could possibly be DSP. Seems like DSP might be aware of the hate he gets online and doesn't want to get kicked out of whatever group he is in.

I do agree however that it would be easy to disprove this. I'm just saying why it's possible he doesn't. It could be he is hiding something else.

3) Probably the same reason there are multiple people in the world called David Smith? just before creating my account, I looked up a handle I was going to use and found it was used on some pinterest-esque accounts. I don't see how this evidence that they are the same person.

Follow up question to the above point - once the possible link was made, was the WWE account deleted? or did the guy leave his account up? if it's still up, that is more evidence to me that they are not the same person. If I am trying to hide my profile, I would delete it so people don't have the chance to analyze it. I saw this exact situation happen on summit1g's stream: someone he played with was doing incredibly well, and someone looked up the gamer tag handle and found it in a forum for game hacks. When the player was accused, the profile was deleted.

4) Who got kicked out of guild after guild after guild? WWE guy? Sounds like he did try to prove he is not DSP but no one listened or believed. Again, as a random user, why do I want to post my face and identity just because people associate with a random online personality who happens to have the same online handle as me?
Are you a functional retard? Just fuck off back to Phil's forums and gloat about your exploits to the other mentally retarded deviants.
 
@TheyCallMeTevin can you please respect the rules of this forum and stop double posting, otherwise I will have to report you for repeated violations of this. You've been asked to stop and ignored this.
What is double posting? I looked it up and I don't think what I did matched the definition: "In online forums double posting is when a user posts the same message or slightly edited versions of the message more than once, in more than on discussion thread. Double-post is also called cross-post. " since all of my responses have been fairly unique. Chill out.

Will wait to reply to others for now since apparently I'm "doubleposting" and genuinely I have no clue what that is. all i've been doing is pressing "reply" to users I want to reply to, writing up a response, then submitting it. One per user.
 
I've seen some real winners in this thread that type reddit paragraphs. But my god this lunatic takes the cake. It's funny because if you go over to the kind of gout forums, you'll notice DSP has a similar way of writing long drawn out paragraphs.

:thinking:
The pretend suave and smart ass attitude makes me think its that moira chick on the forums though.
 
Answer what? I literally do not care about any of these points or if DSP has spent 40k. Literally my only question has been do you have a link to the fucking code. The only reason the conversation has continued is because you all felt offended that someone could possibly disagree with you and thus started insulting me. If your argument is solid my points should have been easily debunked. I don't know years of DSP lore and shit like you all. I literally saw a post on youtube saying it is 100% him and that there was a statistical linguistics tool to prove it and I was curious since I could not find that tool anywhere online.

But I'll take a crack at the above points just as a 3rd party person and present possibilities. I make no claim on their likeliness in this answer:

1) I looked up signs of lying and literally did not see anything about "avoiding saying [the name]" of the subject at hand. I would guess that him doing that is basically a way to make people forget about the issue or devalue it. He did the same thing with superhound by calling him super burnout. Phil basically seems like the kind of guy who talks himself up to make himself seem bigger than he is, as a defense mechanism. but it doesn't come across to me as a "lie", more of a defensive mechanism. He does 2 things by pretending he is not aware of something or by deliberately not saying names of something: 1) new people dont know what he is talking about and have a harder time finding the lore 2) he makes himself sound like he doesn't care which is beneficial for the reason above

2) I did see the clip where he admitted he played it. So some reasons I might not show my username to the public: I use the handle on multiple accounts and it's an identifiable handle which a google search in some other sites might reveal more information about me; if my username is known publicly, I will be harassed in-game, or my friends in game will not associate with me. Online handles provide a level of anonymity. That is what I can think of right now. Based on your point, the WWE guy was kciked out of guilds after it was known he could possibly be DSP. Seems like DSP might be aware of the hate he gets online and doesn't want to get kicked out of whatever group he is in.

I do agree however that it would be easy to disprove this. I'm just saying why it's possible he doesn't. It could be he is hiding something else.

3) Probably the same reason there are multiple people in the world called David Smith? just before creating my account, I looked up a handle I was going to use and found it was used on some pinterest-esque accounts. I don't see how this evidence that they are the same person.

Follow up question to the above point - once the possible link was made, was the WWE account deleted? or did the guy leave his account up? if it's still up, that is more evidence to me that they are not the same person. If I am trying to hide my profile, I would delete it so people don't have the chance to analyze it. I saw this exact situation happen on summit1g's stream: someone he played with was doing incredibly well, and someone looked up the gamer tag handle and found it in a forum for game hacks. When the player was accused, the profile was deleted.

4) Who got kicked out of guild after guild after guild? WWE guy? Sounds like he did try to prove he is not DSP but no one listened or believed. Again, as a random user, why do I want to post my face and identity just because people associate with a random online personality who happens to have the same online handle as me?
Holy shit, can you do your own fucking research you social retard?
I found this shit on the first day it was posted. Are you seriously this stupid?
He says IN THE POST YOU ARE REE'ing about the program is called 'Coeus'.
In case you were wondering if both DSPs are one in the same:
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In case you're curious on known data its using:
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So currently Coeus is so confident that its the same person that the odds exceed the number of people currently on the planet. This mesh has literally never been wrong if his confidence is greater than about 85%

But it doesn't matter. Nothing will change. Dave lives on.
Can you fuck off now?
 
If this @TheyCallMeTevin person is who I think it is (MoraMoria), there is no use in explaining anything to him (her?). He'll just act like he's above everyone else, throw some big words he doesn't understand and then go away, without any change in his previous beliefs except now he believes even more he's smarter than all of us.

But in case you're a person that actually is interested in understanding what proof we have that the WWE account is his, well, you have to understand that there is no "final, absolute proof", nor will there ever be one unless Phil himself admits that it's him. On the off chance that it is not Phil, we will probably never know, since the owner of the account refuses to prove that he's not Phil.

But since you are acting like you're oh so logical, think about these options. Remember, this is all about what is more likely, we can't be 100% sure that any of them is the truth.

1. It's not Phil, but a troll
For this to be the case, you'd have to believe that:
- A troll actually decided to spend tens of thousands of dollars to troll Phil.
- This troll made sure that he would only ever get in the game when Phil is not streaming.
- This troll studied Philip's way of writing very closely, to copy even some abbreviations when writing.
- The Discord Leak was entirely fake, even though a mod pretty much admitted that it was real IIRC.

2. It's not Phil, but an unrelated person
For this to be the case, you'd have to believe that:
- This unrelated person, who has spent tens of thousands of dollars in the game, has no interest in proving that he is not Phil.
- This unrelated person, coincidentally, writes just like Phil.
- This unrelated person happened to choose Phil's twitter handle as his nickname, and has no explanation for this odd choice.

3. It's Phil
For this to be the case, you'd have to believe that:
- The guy who has already confessed to having spent lots of money in other gacha games, has spent lots of money in a gacha game.
- The guy who loves WWE and gacha games, loves this WWE gacha game.
- The guy who has lied countless times to his viewers, has lied to his viewers when saying that the account is not his.

Now, I obviously know that these lists are pretty biased. You can come up with your own reasons to defend that it's not Phil's account (and post it in the WWE Champions thread). But I just wanted to show that it's much easier to believe that it's Phil than to believe that it's not.

Am I 100% sure that it's Phil? Nah. Would I bet my life that it's his account? Hell no. But what I listed above is enough for me to say "Meh, it's Phil".
 
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