Thoughts on Mormonism?

[Sealbaby]

I grew up among the JWs and felt almost the exact same about them... And while they're more low-key about it, they too seem to be softening greatly on the degenerate classes. I don't care enough about them to be upset about it, but I find it interesting that, much like the CJCLDS, they make such a big deal about being "separate" from "the world" [despite the fact that they're much better at it than the Mormons] and yet they're getting cucked by the same reprobates [albeit more slowly].

They're not being 'cucked by the libtards' they're trying to make up for the terrible optics of their history.

Over the years Brigham Young University officials made several public statements calling homosexuality a sin, a choice, a disease, caused by masturbation, 'selfish', 'abominable and detestable'. They interrogated students and teachers thought to be gay and fired and expelled people. They entrapped guys by pretending to hit on them. They subjected gay people who trusted them and reached out for 'help' to vomit and electroshock 'therapy'. Many gay students and at least one professor committed suicide (five in one year, in 1965). Source for all this

But yeah, keep on LARPing as Julia Evola. Keep on offloading your responsibility to look out for and speak up on behalf of more vulnerable people onto women. Keep on shitting on and laughing at women for being 'moralfags' when we do it.

Deep down, of course, beneath the layers of irony, you know SOMEBODY needs to protect the gays. But because you're too scared of being called a moralfag, you're going to force me and other women to do that job.

You could at least thank us for it instead of pretending it doesn't need to be done.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

They're not being 'cucked by the libtards' they're trying to make up for the terrible optics of their history.

Over the years Brigham Young University officials made several public statements calling homosexuality a sin, a choice, a disease, caused by masturbation, 'selfish', 'abominable and detestable'. They interrogated students and teachers thought to be gay and fired and expelled people. They entrapped guys by pretending to hit on them. They subjected gay people who trusted them and reached out for 'help' to vomit and electroshock 'therapy'. Many gay students and at least one professor committed suicide (five in one year, in 1965). Source for all this

But yeah, keep on LARPing as Julia Evola. Keep on offloading your responsibility to look out for and speak up on behalf of more vulnerable people onto women. Keep on shitting on and laughing at women for being 'moralfags' when we do it.

Deep down, of course, beneath the layers of irony, you know SOMEBODY needs to protect the gays. But because you're too scared of being called a moralfag, you're going to force me and other women to do that job.

You could at least thank us for it instead of pretending it doesn't need to be done.

Lol faggot

 

[A Grey Cat]

I can buy god living on planet called kollab and giving planets to the other high ranking elders before I'll believe whatever it is Scientology believes about zenu and alien wars and tiny microbes in our bodies that can be measured by stress tests.


Joseph Smith had the better religion, L Ron Hubbard shoulda stuck with writing science fiction novels.

 

[PipTheAlchemist]

Lessmonism is better

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

I don't know, i'm still use they're hidden CIA agents in the end.
Tell me, why they're bothering with traveling into another countries and learn their languages? Is for learning how monkeys are evolving in harsh places.

 

[Troonologist PhD]

It's extremely heretical. It's not Satanic, but it's still antichrist as they preach a different Christ. Their theology of becoming gods, eternal recurrence, etc. is like all the other occult gibberish out there. You would have to be bugfuck insane to think eternal recurrence is anything other than a cosmic horror story. They ban drugs, don't pretend they can do magic, have to wait to become a god till you die, have enforced monogamy, etc., so it's not nearly as stupid as most other beliefs rooted in occultism.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

eternal recurrence

Eternal recurrence as in time resets over and over and over? They don't believe that.

 

[Soycast Guy]

The beliefs are stupid. Downright retarded. If any religion qualified for, “your beliefs can be disproven in 5 minutes” it’s this one. HOWEVER, they are some of the nicest, most patient, and genuinely good people you’ll ever meet. I’m speaking from experience here because I used to be one, but left when I realized the Book of Mormon is a glorified fan fic.

Fuck those FLDS creeps though. There’s a cult I can’t stand.

 

[Space_Dandy]

I find it frustrating as a Christian that Mormonism achieves nearly what a truly devoted family-like church should be, despite their theology being completely unbiblical and ridiculous. Not to mention their reverence for Joseph Smith, a complete fraud. I feel like their admirable faith is utterly misplaced and wasted.

 

[Maginot]

the fuckin molly mormon happy family bullshit can cover a shitload of family disfunction until it becomes someone else's problem

 

[DeeDee Megadoodoo]

Every religion has an idea that's too stupid to believe at it's center. The stupidity is the point. Anyone can believe something reasonable, but it takes real loyalty to believe something stupid.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Every religion has an idea that's too stupid to believe at it's center. The stupidity is the point. Anyone can believe something reasonable, but it takes real loyalty to believe something stupid.

This is a frustration I’ve found and that I’ve seen in lots of different denominations. It seems like denominations even specifically stress the things that make them different as a sort of signaling.

Trinitycucks tend to be rabid about muh Holy Trinity and go full steam-coming-out-the-ears at anything that’s not Trinitarianism despite the doctrine being logically retarded. Pentecostals are really attached to things like speaking in tongues although their tongues are, with some observation, clearly products of the subconscious. Young Earth Creationists construct very complex scientific theories built entirely around proving the Bible right (a really ass-backwards way of doing science) and take obvious mythology seriously. Catholics and Orthodox jerk off debased hierarchies and pseudo-magical woo in their ceremonies. Mormons big retarded buy-in is the Book of Mormon story (at odds with archeology).

Everybody’s religion has retarded stuff in it and people are usually just blind to their own nonsense and/or consider anything different from their doctrine objectively incorrect. The frustration part comes in if you want to believe in something but can’t despite an effort.

 

[millais]

Usually I'm not down with federal government's various attempts to suppress any peoples who wish to be left alone and even separate from the Union, but I'm thinking the feds did have the right idea about sending the Army in to subject the Mormons to the rule of secular governor and courts.

 

[Mega Man II Intro - GB]

I'm more of a racialist than a Christian so in that sense the Mormons have a lot that's appealing to a guy like me. Sure they do outreach to all the monkeys but they've got a surplus of blonde daughters to give you so you breed more loyal followers. The religion may be nutty as hell but I like the idea that once you're a Mormon you can go anywhere there's Mormons and you won't be out of place. They offer organization and a slutty hot breeder wife. That's powerful stuff.

I don't want to talk to them until I'm a more attractive candidate though. If I show up right now they'll try to fob one of the ugly daughters on me. Not happening. My price for conversion is a hot blonde no older than 26.

 

[malleusmaleficarum]

they're nice but i won't be seeing them in heaven.

 

[thegooddoctor]

If only Christians could act more like Mormons organised religion would be immeasurably improved and the church would probably regain supporters and respect simply by having such pleasant people.

 

[Shidoen]

Mormons are pretty cool.

 

[Tomboy Respecter]

Yeah, that's much dumber than the magical apple and talking snake-filled Garden of Eden being in North Africa or the Middle East, God being a supernatural being who just happened to exist forever and created mankind because he was bored, and the afterlife being a nonstop pool party with Jesus and all your homies.

Yes it unironically is. Especially when you consider that fuck all has happened in North America before the 1600s except for the Native Americans killing and cucking each other.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Usually I'm not down with federal government's various attempts to suppress any peoples who wish to be left alone and even separate from the Union, but I'm thinking the feds did have the right idea about sending the Army in to subject the Mormons to the rule of secular governor and courts.

I used to think that the Mormons were victims of oppression, but having read more about it lately, I think their oppression was probably mainly their own fault. The Mormons had a habit of bloc-voting wherever they moved, financial chicanery, and there's accusations that the Danites were acting like a secret police suppressing apostates. Nowadays, when I imagine people moving en masse into my own homelands to bloc vote and politic as a group, it makes my blood boil. The people of Ohio and Missouri were dealing with that exact problem. Additionally, Joseph Smith has some quotes implying he had an admiration of Muhammad and intended to be like him, in addition to his generally deceitful nature and his political aspirations. Prophets come in several types, as I see it. There are Moralists/Teachers (Jesus, Buddha, Confucius if you count Confucianism as a religion), who relate to the world mainly as a thinker/orator and grapple with the wickedness of their own societies. These people I think are generally sincere and good people. There are Liberators (Tenskatawa, Louis Riel, Hong Xiuquan, van Rensburg) who rally their people with religious rhetoric to try to resist attacks from without. They may or may not be good, but are generally sympathetic. Then there are Empire Builders (Hubbard, Smith, Muhammad), who have dreams of controlling the world, shaping new societies. And they aren't necessarily evil, but they are sociopaths, opportunists, bad people. I think Cult Leaders (Jim Jones, the Aum Shinrikyo guy) are generally the same as Empire Builders but much more malicious and unstable. I used to still admire Joseph Smith because I saw a sort of dreamy visionary quality in him, but getting to reading up on his history as a conman, it just kills the romance of it.

Which is long and rambling, but my main point is that between their shenanigans and Smith's personality (and by extension Young) I think they'd have been intolerable to live around.

As far as what they got up to in Deseret, the United States had no right to go annex American Afghanistan, but neither did the Mormons have any right to move onto Mexican clay populated by Indians, so it's all the same. I don't see as the Mormons did anything wrong at Mountain Meadows, given their history with the US. But, overall, running them out of Missouri seems pretty justifiable. But Utah, eh, I kind of feel like if some Whites want to live in the desert and play Old Testament then just leave them alone.

they're nice but i won't be seeing them in heaven.

Because you'll be in the Telestial Kingdom and they'll be in the Celestial Kingdom

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

The Garden of Eden was located where Kansas City is today;

God is not a transcendent, eternal Supreme Being, but a mortal who has ascended to godhood;

• When you die (or at least this is true of the men), you become a god of your own realm with a harem of waifus.

The American setting of the Book of Mormon is basically an attempt (and not a unique one, Smith was just the most successful of a bunch of people playing the same game) by Americans in a period of American exceptionalism to feel better about living far away from where all the Bible events occurred. It's pretty retarded. Mormons have a sort of thing going on like Young and Old Earth Creationists where you've got ones who want to attribute ALL American Indian civilization to the Nephite-Lamanite thing, and ones who want to claim that it's only some tiny village hidden somewhere in the American interior (which is a lot more defensible archeologically). But unlike creationism, we know exactly what Smith and Co. meant when they wrote it. (They clearly meant American Indians in general, which is archaeologically impossible.)

The basic premise of what you're talking about is that creation runs in cycles infinitely spreading out. To use an analogy, gods are to men as adults are to children; the soul learns through life how to live as a deity, and in this manner you get a chain of creation where new universes (or, depending on interpretation, planets; early Mormonism has some similarity to modern alien cult shit) come out of old ones. Souls also are produced essentially sexually (in the sense that there is an inherent male and female quality to souls and that the combination of them is necessary to produce new souls). Your "harem of waifus" is whatever wives you were married to. If you take out the "god of your own realm" part it's literally just that you keep your family in Heaven (which contradicts the New Testament). That's the main sell of modern Mormonism, the idea that the family bond (husband-wife, parent-child) can survive into the afterlife in opposition to the mainstream Christian idea that family bonds/social structures are sundered in Heaven.