Thoughts on why Gen Z is not drinking alcohol?

[Slap47]

'Blue zone' doesn't mean "Mediterranean" generally

Its the part where good health was attributed to wine consumption and that was proven false. The parts of Asia considered Blue Zones actually do have long lives and the secret is obvious. They have a cultural tradition where you eat until you are 3/4ths full, eat fish, have excellent public healthcare systems, and have a culture of not being too stressed out. There is reason why Okinawa is a blue zone and not the binge drinking workaholic super city of Tokyo.

Sadly, 95% of the info that the general public gets about health comes from articles like this, which is probably part of why we're in such a sorry state health-wise.

It is simply a matter of discipline. Vices like overeating, alcohol, and being lazy reduce lifespan. A fat fuck drinking wine is not going to get healthier.
Alcohol consumption is one small part of living a healthy life. Its probably not going to be the thing that extends your life or kills you unless you go overboard (and you statistically are going to have binge drinkers in a cultural with normalized alcohol consumption).

The only group of teetotalers that I know of that are inordinately long lived are Mormons

Arabs are obese and smoke alot. Drinking less alcohol does not make up for that.

The only vice Mormons actually have is their sugar addiction. They really like Malt shops. Otherwise, not drinking, smoking and eating too much has almost certainly made their lives longer. The Mormon Church specifically cites obesity as bad because it is bad discipline.

The difference between mainstream Islam and mainstream Mormonism is obvious. Muslims are supposed to abstain from things that harm their body which is sacred but in practice this only manifests as a superficial abstention from one particular vice. The Mormon Church is a centralized organization that updates a website to keep people following the spirit of their traditions instead of just the ritual. Mormons actually follow the principle Muslims are supposed to follow and are better for it.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

Its the part where good health was attributed to wine consumption and that was proven false. The parts of Asia considered Blue Zones actually do have long lives and the secret is obvious. They have a cultural tradition where you eat until you are 3/4ths full, eat fish, have excellent public healthcare systems, and have a culture of not being too stressed out. There is reason why Okinawa is a blue zone and not the binge drinking workaholic super city of Tokyo.

I mean, I watched some Netflix documentary on the zones, and the Japanese one was primarily described as people having a purpose in society past retirement. Same way some southern families live together for generations and give each other purpose beyond work and money. Most western countries just toss their old in a home and forget about them. You can literally die of heartbreak and depression is as damaging as chainsmoking. I'd argue it's more than "Uhh we eat a few nuggies less".

Also fasting works better than any moderately balanced diet and that's still "a myth" to many.

 

[Slap47]

Also fasting works better than any moderately balanced diet and that's still "a myth" to many.

Intermittent fasting is healthy. Islam fasting actually makes you fatter.

 

[Rodeo Roadrunner]

The only vice Mormons actually have is their sugar addiction. They really like Malt shops. Otherwise, not drinking, smoking and eating too much has almost certainly made their lives longer. The Mormon Church specifically cites obesity as bad because it is bad discipline.

One of the other reasons that Mormons are considered to be healthy, is that the center of Mormonism (Salt Lake City, and more broadly Utah) is an outdoor paradise, where outdoor activities such as skiing, hiking, backpacking, etc. are very popular and highly encouraged. The outdoor culture also obviously helps with healthiness.

 

[Sienna Fuegonasus]

Sounds like there aren't too many Kiwis who like to party

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Gen z men will ashure in a new Hitler.

 

[Bawbag]

Zoomers are faggots.

 

[gagabobo1997]

I'm gen z and I'm drunk and fuck right now

 

[NoBueno]

Younger generations drink less alcohol because energy drinks are not considered adult beverages and they drink less alcohol because they are taking pills, which don't count as real drugs.

It is all a mirage. They get totally trashed but in ways that society has not yet caught up with. The dirty secret is that a lot (no joke your Mom or your sister could be on it and lying, it is everywhere) of people of all ages are abusing Xanax or other drugs like alprazolam.

watchu want?

 

[Da Grim Reaper]

When you constantly see adults turning into unrecognizable trainwrecks, acting like complete retards, breaking the law, groaning about migraines, getting into fights, soaking themselves in piss and puke, passing out in the asphalt, and constantly going to the hospital due to cirrhosis... You pause, stop, and think: "I will never touch this shit, ever."
It's not just the chaos you dodge, it's also the fact that you're spending a shit ton of money for something that will inevitably turn into an addiction and take away your head earned money.
You're spending money on something that will inevitably turn you into an addict, so the best way to stop an addiction is to not even start.

Then, someone will still have the audacity to say: "Why don't these youngins drink?"
Because when you're in such an environment where you're constantly seeing a half abusing alcohol while the other half tells you alcohol is bad, you tend to end up like this.

 

[Slap47]

When you constantly see adults turning into unrecognizable trainwrecks, acting like complete retards, breaking the law, groaning about migraines, getting into fights, soaking themselves in piss and puke, passing out in the asphalt, and constantly going to the hospital due to cirrhosis... You pause, stop, and think: "I will never touch this shit, ever."

Honestly, alcohol worship culture seems kinda retarded to people outside of that culture.

 

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Honestly, alcohol worship culture seems kinda retarded to people outside of that culture.

Ahh yes, drunk driving recklessly. The sign of a true adult and celebration. The people who drink alcohol are better advertisements for not doing it than any program designed to get people to stop.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

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Honestly, alcohol worship culture seems kinda retarded to people outside of that culture.

Mid 20s and the cake I had for my birthday was a Rum Cake. It was so good. No mounds and mounds of icing (that overpower the rest of the cake), just a nice moist and spongy cake.

 

[Battlefield42]

I don't drink because i like snus. Denmark makes great snus

 

[Großmann]

I drink, but I don’t begrudge anyone for not drinking. Most people develop an unhealthy relationship with alcohol and drink exclusively to get drunk or become dependent on alcohol to the point that they can’t function at work if they don’t take a shot every other hour.

What Zoomers are choosing to do instead (drugs and energy drinks) is not much better or arguably worse, however.

 

[Mukhrani]

It's not just the chaos you dodge, it's also the fact that you're spending a shit ton of money for something that will inevitably turn into an addiction and take away your head earned money.
You're spending money on something that will inevitably turn you into an addict, so the best way to stop an addiction is to not even start.

Most people develop an unhealthy relationship with alcohol and drink exclusively to get drunk or become dependent on alcohol to the point that they can’t function at work if they don’t take a shot every other hour.

My God, I feel sorry for whatever anecdotal backing is forming this perception for you, but the amount of people who become alcoholics is a tiny percentage of the population, around or less than 10% iirc. It runs in my extended family and I can count the number of alcoholics on one hand out of over a hundred people, almost all of whom drink at varying frequencies.

I don't know if you are Gen Z, but this is a consistent annoyance to me when talking to them: it seems like once a 'fact' is floating around in the social media miasma in sufficient quantities, they absorb it through osmosis and it becomes an incontrovertible truth to them. There was a young guy who I once warned about taking steroids who just would not budge on the concept because his social media milieu was saturated with the idea that it was completely reversible and only had aesthetic effects. The previous poster I argued with in this thread who adamantly believed that moderate alcohol has no health benefits despite the lion's share of credible research demonstrating that it reduces your risk of severe cardiovascular disease substantially was another example. I think this might be another case - the idea that most drinkers will become alcoholics is just floating around there and people absorb it as a fact when, I mean, it's plainly obvious that it isn't the case even without looking at epidemiological numbers.

I don't drink because i like snus. Denmark makes great snus

If you've ever felt like you've had a bit 'too much' I've also found that tobacco products of any kind have an almost instant head-clearing effect.

 

[remedy]

As with actual cigarettes, peon ass coteries are trying to make it inaccessible

 

[Quence]

Well, you're not going to, and you're going to age. One day you'll look in the mirror and see wrinkles, or you'll have gotten your face so stretched and pumped full of plastic to try and avoid wrinkles that you'll be bogged.
Try not to worry about it too much. Everyone gets old, everyone dies. It's something you need to learn to accept - right now you're freaking out about potentially turning thirty.

I am counting on science to save me. But I need science to get its arse moving and find a cure for the #1 killer in the history of the world - old age - BEFORE I turn 30. I will NEVER get plastic surgery, but I also don't want to get wrinkles, grey hair, bad breath, droopy boobs, or any of the other horrors associated with aging.

Flluck no, one of the best parts of living is dying. Immortality is a curse that forces you to watch everything and everyone you love and care for die around you. The Gods envy us because of our mortality.

It wouldn't be a curse at all if all of your friends and relatives were similarly protected against aging and death. We could become GODS!

Then you should start drinking a glass of wine or beer every day with dinner, or every other day if that's too much. On balance it reduces your risk of stroke and heart attack and leads to a longer life span.

The 'moderate drinking for good health' studies? They've turned out to be b.s. and probably funded by the wine & spirits industry.

Alcohol is a toxin in the human body and simply drinking less of a toxin doesn't make it healthy for you.

 

[Quence]

The only vice Mormons actually have is their sugar addiction.

I don't know if it's still accurate, but Utah used to have some of the highest rates of prescription drug abuse in the country.

 

[WULULULULU]

I hate drugs but I love my liver so I take neither.