Times when you have felt genuinely sorry for Chris

This among Juan's other points, are pretty valid. With everything else, Chris has used his autism as a shield for a long time. The problem was instead of correcting his behavior, his parents just tossed more fuel to the fire. A bunch times Chris was catfished, and what did he do? Comeback to do the same song and dance. This is why Chris is perceived the way he is. You can ask him why he does the things he does and he'll respond with "my brain is wired wrong." and at this point, it's a weak excuse.
What's funny is that when someone tried to take away his "uniqueness" by claiming that autism and Asperger's syndrome are one and the same, he latched upon it like it was life vest. I feel like his therapist played some part in his entitled view, albeit unintentionally.

I think Chris would fare better with animals than humans.
Even animals have the idea of basic hygiene.

I feel bad that Barb and Bob fought Chris getting put in a sped school which theoretically could have made him less cripplingly retarded, but I don't have a crystal ball to see if that would have worked, as Chris being this bad could be nature instead of nurture.
Yeah, we will never know. Even some users here claimed, that special classes helped them to adapt and then move to regular school, while other say that their relatives remained speds despite visiting it. Well, at least there was a chance, I guess.

The post nut regret he felt after shooting a batch in Barb must have been pretty rough
The only regret in Chrises life is that he couldn't eat that Walmart cake that he farted into.
 
Oh, fuck off with that. Chris is mildly autistic, not retarded to the point of being almost animal. He can tell right from wrong, he just doesn't want to. That's why we are different from animals - even when our instincts scream "DO IT" we still can make a choice. Chris made his choice.
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Whilst accused of raping his mother, Chris drew a cartoon depiction of a character with the logo for his birthsign "soul-bonding" (aka fucking and raping) a character labeled with the birthsign of his mother.

I gotta be honest: Chris is pretty fucking retarded, and I sometimes wonder if people like downplaying the extent to which he is just so they can sleep better at night.

The reality...?

We're assholes who get jollies out of laughing at the misadventures of a woefully stupid and immoral autistic manchild who was never taught right from wrong, never had his delusions of grandeur deflated, and was never humbled to the point he had some grasp of how retarded he actually is. Oh, and his parents decided TV would be a fantastic nanny, so he thinks he's an electric hedgehog with boobs. Anyone who can't accept they're an asshole to some degree for being entertained by Chris just simply isn't being honest with themselves.

Is Chris lacking in a moral code? Yes. FFS he fucked his mom, this isn't even a discussion.

However, do we really believe that if we took some non-autistic individual who did the same exact thing as Chris that Chris would be "just as bad" as that guy? Hell no. Chris being autistic absolutely plays a role in how harshly he would be judged, and it should. Plenty of normal people struggle with getting their shit together and recognizing how fucked up they are as people, and I absolutely think Chris' autism makes it just that much more difficult for him to overcome those problems. I mean, not saying autistic people are assholes or anything like that, but autism is not exactly associated with high levels of empathy. FFS Aspergers is often referred to as "a license to be an asshole," and I remember hearing one Aspergers patient saying it took him years to realize other people had emotions just like him. Given that, I am by no means surprised that someone on the spectrum like Chris has a friggin' God Complex, and no shit it'll grow to be ridiculous if he grows up watching cartoons and harem anime with next to zero parental guidance.

Yes, it is difficult for us to claim Chris would be like this without the autism. His brother Cole for example is also a tremendous douche as a result of sharing the same parents....but Cole doesn't run people over or assault store clerks with pepper spray, and Cole can also recognize his mom is a disgusting human being so that he doesn't get a boner while thinking about her. Chris does, and autism absolutely plays a role in that. To me, Cole is evidence that a non-autistic Chris would still be a douche, but it's the autism that truly makes Chris exceptional. If it weren't, we'd all be following Cole just as much as we follow Chris.


I think where people are right to judge Chris harshly is that while we can all sit here and ponder over how Chris' autism makes him ill-equipped to self-reflect and recognize his flaws or improve as a person without heavy outside influence, or how it is all tragic in a way, sitting and feeling sorry for Chris will not change that yes, today Chris is a rather dangerous and damaging individual for society. In the same way bully victims cannot keep playing the "I was bullied" card for any potential issues beyond age 30, Chris likewise can and will be expected to be better at his age, even if it's understandably harder for him. He's assaulted people. He's taken part in a hit-and-run. He raped his own damned mother. Whether he's autistic or not, this doesn't change that we absolutely need to recognize the damage he can do and treat him appropriately.

Chris being in jail, frankly, is possibly the best thing to happen both for him and for Ruckersville, Virginia. He is absolutely a danger and a burden for that community (and not a burden that we should bare in the interest of being humane, such as if someone's paralyzed from the neck down and needs support; Chris is a burden in that he's capable of more and yet doesn't provide, and he does have SOME degree of responsibility not to be a mess of a human being, which he's failing horrendously at), and putting him in jail both protects the locals from his random fits of tard rage, whilst simultaneously putting him in a place that provides some degree of guidance, telling him when something's okay and when it isn't. Chris NEEDS someone to tell him right from wrong, because his parents sure as hell didn't and the "Sonic Sez" lessons he grew up on clearly didn't teach him enough.

But saying he's "only mildly autistic...?" Yeah, he fucking wishes. Sounds like he was told that once by a McDonald's Happy Meal IQ Test and he's just being running with that his whole life since it was the only test to ever claim he isn't completely autistic. The man fucked his mom and has produced about two-dozen pieces of evidence he did it, all of which he "encoded" through "clever" systems where he would do something like draw a character name "Sirhc" fucking a character named "Arabrab." That. Is. Retarded. Chris is incredibly retarded no matter what people on this forum, his pitying doctors or Godbear say.
 
But saying he's "only mildly autistic...?" Yeah, he fucking wishes. Sounds like he was told that once by a McDonald's Happy Meal IQ Test and he's just being running with that his whole life since it was the only test to ever claim he isn't completely autistic. The man fucked his mom and has produced about two-dozen pieces of evidence he did it, all of which he "encoded" through "clever" systems where he would do something like draw a character name "Sirhc" fucking a character named "Arabrab." That. Is. Retarded. Chris is incredibly retarded no matter what people on this forum, his pitying doctors or Godbear say.
If he was clinically retarded or low-functioning we wouldn't be here. He is stupid and delusional, just like anyone who didn't have to put an effort in his life. Autism just makes it easier.

His brother Cole for example is also a tremendous douche as a result of sharing the same parents
Cole has different father and he doesn't even know who it is. His childhood was also different - when Chris was enabled by his parents, Cole was in stricter conditions and was punished for every little thing. So he is not the same, both in nature and nurture.

putting him in jail both protects the locals from his random fits of tard rage, whilst simultaneously putting him in a place that provides some degree of guidance, telling him when something's okay and when it isn't.
He is 40 years old, it was too late decades ago.

Chris NEEDS someone to tell him right from wrong, because his parents sure as hell didn't and the "Sonic Sez" lessons he grew up on clearly didn't teach him enough.
That weren't the only things he interacted with, he had a plenty of people in his life. Also, Sonic told something about bad touch, yet Chris failed to learn even this.
 
I feel bad that Barb and Bob fought Chris getting put in a sped school which theoretically could have made him less cripplingly retarded, but I don't have a crystal ball to see if that would have worked, as Chris being this bad could be nature instead of nurture.
Barb and Bob didn't understand the difference between autism and mental retardation, and in part of not understanding, they chose to deny what was happening. It became easier to just say yes to Chris' never ending demands. It became easier to simply buy Chris' silence with toys. Chris learned by association that the more he spergs out, the faster he gets the desired results.
 
Barb and Bob didn't understand the difference between autism and mental retardation, and in part of not understanding, they chose to deny what was happening. It became easier to just say yes to Chris' never ending demands. It became easier to simply buy Chris' silence with toys. Chris learned by association that the more he spergs out, the faster he gets the desired results.
Bob died covered in bug bites that emerged from the filth of the hoard his house became as his son trooned out with him unable to stop it and Barb was raped by her own son, so that shows what happens when you enable your retarded son instead of taking responsibility.
 
Bob died covered in bug bites that emerged from the filth of the hoard his house became as his son trooned out with him unable to stop it and Barb was raped by her own son, so that shows what happens when you enable your retarded son instead of taking responsibility.
This is why I've never felt sorry for Bob. I could easily see him giving up on Chris and even Barb, but in the end he gave up even on himself.
 
Disregard the most recent invents and going back to the very origins and I feel sorry for Chris-Chan being born with his medical issues.

We know about Autism, and it's a safe bet he has other issues. He didn't do any thing to cause them and his parents had zero fucking desire to properly address their child's issues. Coupled with he was born in an era where there wasn't quite the mainstream push for acceptance and aiding them. I always felt sorry for him in this way; especially early on when he was far far more naive and trolls were malicious.

Being born with a severe medical issue you have zero control over sucks, and Chris got doubly fucked on it with the Chandler's antiquated views and bizarre reactions to offers of helping with it.

But I'd extend the same sympathy to any one born with chronic severe health issues that are not easy to control. Especially in a country where the government does it best to not offer the resources or help for it. He didn't ask for it, and people used that against him, and I'll always feel sympathy for younger Chris as a result.
 
Really just his dads death. I fucking hate the feeling you get when you lose someone you love and wouldn't wish it upon anyone.
Unfortunately, the love was one-way. Chris never loved Bob. Chris said it himself: he has to "Respect [Bob] my father, but I don't love him." It's evident when Chris read the letters Bob wrote for him; Chris laughed at the idea that Bob thought Chris would use sonichu as a mascot for autism - it's the same as if Chris would laugh in Bob's face. Mark me MOTI, but I don't believe the emotion Chris displayed at reading the letters was genuine (I would believe he did cry during the recorded conversations after Bob's death).
 
His entire life is pretty tragic, as dumb and entertaining as he is. Every ween contributed in turning a quirky, socially awkward redneck into a mentally ill troon who is 100% disconnected from reality and fucked his mom. 2006 Chris was kinda lovable, in some weird way. He wasn't "hopeless". Had he gotten the right treatment, and restricted access to the internet, he might have became somewhat functional, and I cant help but feel sorry for him for everything. Yet I can't stop looking.
 
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Why feel sorry for this degenerate supreme? At what point do we say enough is enough, get fucked? I think we reached that point when he fucked his mama and called it soul bonding. There is nothing that can redeem him from this point.

He is a predatory monster who lacks the intelligence, the looks, and the money to prey on others outside of his control. Instead he preys on those who are closest to him and the most vulnerable to satisfy his degenerate urges.
 
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Why feel sorry for this degenerate supreme? At what point do we day enough is enough, get fucked? I think we reached that point when he fucked his mama and called it soul bonding. There is nothing that can redeem him from this point.

He is a predatory monster who lacks the intelligence, the looks, and the money to prey on others outside of his control. Instead he preys on those who are closest to him and the most vulnerable to satisfy his degenerate urges.
BlueSpike broke Chris to the point of no return.
 
Kind of bored, going to make a short list:

1. His entire youth from child to adult.
2. BlueSpike incident
3. Liquid & Kacey Call

Those are the ones that do it for me. In the case of number 1, he led an extremely unfortunate childhood even at Manchester. Bullied by a babysitter, bullied by his neighbor who he thought was his friend, treated poorly at nathaniel green, has to live away from Barb, disliked by teachers in middle school, had paid friends in high school, took his mom to prom, cried at graduation to the point his friend had to console him, and wasted his youth completely. While Chris' "fond" high school memories are a cwckipedia page, I think even the most geeky of people out there probably has a more interesting (if not fond) memories of their high school years than Chris that could at quadruple his page if not more. It's really unfortunate and I wish one of those things mentioned above would have been different.

2. Doesn't need an explanation.

3. This might be an odd one, but I truly felt sorry for him here. Aside from the standard hypocritical bullshit from lardass Kacey telling him he needs to get in shape and be better, Liquid Chris tells him he's a liar and to shut up. I don't admonish LC for this but Chris ended up crying over this which he didn't do during the BlueSpike incident. It hit the man emotionally for some reason, probably the torrent of abuse from Kacey mixed with an identity crisis of sorts mixed with genuine hope he could get Kacey and was emotionally invested. He stayed on the call as long as he could for Kacey and took the abuse.

LC was right to be pissed Chris tried to steal his girlfriend but I do feel bad in that call for him. He didn't have the sense to hang up. It's like Chris Chan finally realized his life was a tv show now but wanted to not believe it and was trying to assert he was not a character but a real human being and that the trolls just refused to let Chris have the one thing that he knew for sure was real, that he was real. Chris was generally pretty stoic in audio so seeing him sniffle and cry and assert he was being true and honest in who he was got to me a bit I guess.

I never felt bad for Troon Chris though, after Liquid Chris, he just let the worst aspects of himself take over. Even during the ABL calls he comes across as a self-absorbed douche and by the time 2016 rolled around, he was just another lunatic on the internet.
 
Well, my biggest problem with Kacey is that while so many things genuinely are Chris's own fault, I've always felt like the house wasn't one of them. Bob and Barb had filled the entire house to the absolute brim with hoard piles, and then they decided just to unload the burden onto Chris, who is completely incapable of taking care of taking care of anything. I'm a functioning adult and I wouldn't even know where to start if someone told me I had to clean up a hoardy house, never mind the manchild that is chris, with barb and bob looming over him unwilling to throw out anything.

Kacey is probably one of my least favourite pre-Idea Guys trolls outside of Bluespike and possibly Jackie. All the trolls created over-the-top characters of themselves, but Kacey really outdid herself. She billed herself as a smart, attractive, athletic, on the road to success woman who was just really into Sonichu. When in fact all she did was bitch at Chris and even Chris pointed out she was just as out of shape as he was which she gaslit him about. I am more inclined to believe that Clyde Cash was actually a multi-millionaire than I am that Kacey could beat Chris in a race let alone run the miles she claims to have. Maybe she's really cool irl and I'm being a douche for fat-shaming her but going for her trollsona, Chris must have been at a level of desperate few men have ever been.

It's difficult to think that he may have actually had a functional life with a wife/gf if he lowered his standards (and maybe just be a soy boy) and stopped thinking of women as just emotional supports for him. Maybe if he had actually gotten help, he wouldn't go to inceldom to the point of trooning out. I also find it quite funny that a lot of trannies dont consider him trans.

I think the "just lower your standards bro" is a bit of a meme. Standards only can go so low until they get into like negative territories where the only retort is like "Sure I may be in a poly relationship with 3 other dudes and a ugly fat chick who is pregnant and we don't know who the father is, but at least I'm getting laid!". Prior to Chris fucking his mom, I had more respect for him than those guys from that video. Sometimes the ol' hand is preferable.

Besides Chris probably had the lowest of standards possible within the realms of normality. He went on like a friendly date with that really fat girl, went for Kacey, and eventually his imagination. Don't let the attraction signs fool you, Chris was willing to settle in those days.
 
Kacey is probably one of my least favourite pre-Idea Guys trolls outside of Bluespike and possibly Jackie. All the trolls created over-the-top characters of themselves, but Kacey really outdid herself. She billed herself as a smart, attractive, athletic, on the road to success woman who was just really into Sonichu. When in fact all she did was bitch at Chris and even Chris pointed out she was just as out of shape as he was which she gaslit him about. I am more inclined to believe that Clyde Cash was actually a multi-millionaire than I am that Kacey could beat Chris in a race let alone run the miles she claims to have. Maybe she's really cool irl and I'm being a douche for fat-shaming her but going for her trollsona, Chris must have been at a level of desperate few men have ever been.
I don't specifically mind that her trolling was hypothetical. She was exceptionally bitchy and naggy though. Some of her calls are hour long blocks of her just nagging and she sounds like a complete broken record. Even if Chris had exterted a monsterous true & honest effort (something he coukd never manage) he was a useless autistic man and that house would have never been clean. It's extremely telling that bobs death letter to Chris was just a page of telling Chris to never throw out his stuff even after death. There was no way Chris would have even been allowed to toss things out.

Really though what it comes down to is that Kacey isnt funny, shes just bitchy and listening to her just felt like I was getting bitched at too.
 
Besides Chris probably had the lowest of standards possible within the realms of normality. He went on like a friendly date with that really fat girl, went for Kacey, and eventually his imagination. Don't let the attraction signs fool you, Chris was willing to settle in those days.

This. Kacey was basically at a level where she'd be properly paired with someone physically like pre-troon Chris, but with better hygiene and not a tard. Chris was fat but not hideous. Hell, at his slimmest, he was probably a tiny notch above Kacey.

Yet even the Hambeast turned Chris down. And really, why shouldn't she? Women have the option of getting laid by guys above their league who bang multiple women. They only lose out when they try to tie down a monogamous partner for a lifetime -- either they fail to get commitment or they get serial monogamized.

Chris was perfectly willing to lower his standards. It's just he was unwilling or unable to raise his standards for his own achievements, hygiene and behavior to give him a chance even with obese ugly women.

If men got slut-shamed more, people like Chris would have a better chance at a relationship. For Chris this would be marginal though, as even in his prime his mental illness was so insufferable he was probably doomed to be forever alone regardless. His only hope would be a woman with *extremely* specific paraphilias for zero responsibility retards that shit their pants. He could probably be improved by a domineering woman that force-showered him daily and basically was his constant minder, but she would need a tugboat too as that would require all her time and nobody in the house would be able to be the breadwinner.
 
3. This might be an odd one, but I truly felt sorry for him here. Aside from the standard hypocritical bullshit from lardass Kacey telling him he needs to get in shape and be better, Liquid Chris tells him he's a liar and to shut up. I don't admonish LC for this but Chris ended up crying over this which he didn't do during the BlueSpike incident. It hit the man emotionally for some reason, probably the torrent of abuse from Kacey mixed with an identity crisis of sorts mixed with genuine hope he could get Kacey and was emotionally invested. He stayed on the call as long as he could for Kacey and took the abuse.

LC was right to be pissed Chris tried to steal his girlfriend but I do feel bad in that call for him. He didn't have the sense to hang up. It's like Chris Chan finally realized his life was a tv show now but wanted to not believe it and was trying to assert he was not a character but a real human being and that the trolls just refused to let Chris have the one thing that he knew for sure was real, that he was real. Chris was generally pretty stoic in audio so seeing him sniffle and cry and assert he was being true and honest in who he was got to me a bit I guess.
Reading through so many of Chris' interactions with trolls I keep asking myself why he never hung up or left the chats. And my conclusion is that he was likely just so desperate for social interaction, relationships and some sense of belonging that he persevered.

I definitely don't think it was that he enjoyed the attention, and I highly doubt that he actually _consciously reasoned_ like I'm describing it. But even a severely autistic person would know not to take abuse from a potential or actual love interest/friend/partner. Chris however did both not have any experience of healthy relationships and has always been extremely lonely which would set even a neurotypical individual up for repeated abusive relationships.

The fact that certain (far from all) trolls took advantage of that desperation to hurt Chris and break him down stings. A lot.
 
I feel sorry for him being born. By which I mean the exact circumstances of his birth, not that I would deny him being born in the first place. Bob and Barb were too fucking old to have kids; both physically and in their mindsets. They would’ve struggled with a normal kid let alone Chris’ special needs. Should’ve just settled down and enjoyed their autumn years together.

Had he been born to younger parents, not only would’ve he probably not been as autistic (or not autistic at all as Borb’s advanced age was the contribution factor) but they would’ve seen that he got the appropriate help during childhood.
 
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