‘Traditional TV is dying’: can networks pivot and survive?

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Warner Bros Discovery’s announcement this week of a $9bn (£7bn) writedown in the value of its TV networks is a stark acknowledgment of the damage the streaming wars are inflicting on traditional broadcasting models.

The astonishing figure, which pushed the US entertainment group to a quarterly net loss of $10bn (£7.9bn) and sent shares sliding 12% in early trading on Thursday, lays bare how channels such as CNN, TLC and the Food Network can no longer rely on a captive cable subscriber base.

The rapid consumer shift away from high-priced TV packages, coupled with the inexorable decline in advertising, has forced traditional TV companies to invest billions in low-cost streaming services to catch up with first movers such as Netflix.

The question is now whether companies such as WBD – home to TV and film content including Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga, Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire, The Big Bang Theory, Succession, Friends and all Olympics events – can build the scale and make significant profits from their streaming operations before the death of linear television delivered by cable, satellite or aerial.

“Traditional TV is dying, or at least in zombie mode,” says Alex Degroote, a media analyst. “It is being replaced by a combination of services such as short-form video players like YouTube and TikTok, and the top streamers such as Netflix. WBD’s $9bn impairment is a real hammer blow and will reverberate across all traditional media assets.”

The market value of WBD, home to assets including the Warner Bros film studio, HBO and CNN, has plunged almost 70% in the two years since the group was formed in a $40bn (£31.5bn) merger between WarnerMedia and Discovery intended to help both businesses survive the transition to a streaming future.

“Unfortunately, the stock performance is a clear indication that investors see little optimism that the tides may soon start to turn,” says Robert Fishman, senior analyst at MoffettNathanson.

Earlier this week, Disney disclosed that its streaming operations – which include the global Disney+ service, Hulu and ESPN+ in the US and Hotstar in India – achieved profitability for the first time in the quarter to the end of June.

However, the milestone of $447m (£352m) in operating profit, which was above management projections, has come at a huge cost, with its streaming services running up $11bn (£9.2bn) in losses since Disney+ was launched in 2019.

Disney has more than 200 million global streaming subscribers, and WBD exceeds 100 million globally, with Discovery+ now the fastest-growing service in the UK thanks to winning the rights to show every Olympic discipline. But the battle is not just to continue to drive scale.

Boosting revenue and profits per subscriber has become critical through strategies including rapid rounds of price increases – Disney has just announced a set of price rises for later this year – as well as driving slightly cheaper ad-funded tiers to pull in cost-conscious consumers.

While traditional TV companies struggle with managing the decline in their legacy businesses, with drastic rounds of cost-cutting after a decade of profligate spending on content in the first decade of the streaming wars, Netflix points to a viable future.

The streaming giant, which once struggled with mounting losses running into tens of billions of dollars, has seen its market value surge by more than 50% over the past year after turning the profitability corner while continuing to see significant growth in subscribers.

WBD’s chief executive, David Zaslav, who has considered breaking up the company but concluded that is not currently the best option, said the market was being hit by a “generational disruption” that requires traditional TV companies to take “bold, necessary steps”.

Richard Broughton, director at Ampere Analysis, said: “Legacy TV businesses are in decline but the shift is not so rapid that it can’t be managed. There are still a lot of broadcast TV viewers, they have the time to pivot to profitability in the streaming world.”

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No TV in the Permabunker, only radio is amateur radio equipment and the obligatory weather radio to notify me in the middle of the night if a roaring wildfire is headed my way so I don't get fucking incinerated in my sleep. (OK, there's an old Radio Shack AM/FM table radio I bought at a flea market bc I was curious as to what I could actually receive here. Not much, actually.) I think the last time I owned a TV was in 2007. The big legacy media companies are literally so far up the ass of globohomo that the product has become insufferable even to liberals. Good, blow up the entire motherfucker. The only downside will be the death of local media, which is already well on its way anyway, which will result in local ruling families being able to assrape their serfs without reporters to alert everybody beforehand.
 
Meh... even pre-2000 I knew if there was something that looked good on PBS, that meant it was telethon time, and I'd get to see whatever it was in 10 minute sections, interspersed with 15 minutes of begging between.
Have you tried giving them all the money at once?

 
There just isn’t anything worth paying for. The only television I’m exposed to is by force, usually in airports.

Airport TV is even worse. Sometime in the post chinavirus nightmare world airports stopped just playing the news and started with this airport tv bullshit. I think the last one I saw was 95% ads and some bullshit NPC-tier YouTube and TikTok content mixed in for the other 5%.

A screen was in every terminal with three or so screens per gate so you couldn’t escape. It made me want to throw myself into a jet engine. The worst part is watching people around me engage with it. Most people are braindead retards. It’s like a retarded monkey with a shiny toy. Makes me sick. TAD!
 
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The one that cannibalized an old comic series that played Catholcism mostly straight, proceeding to shit it up by killing off the comic heroine, subverting the entire pro-Catholicism message, and then with Korra-esque lesbianism?

The shitting on the source material is on par with Castlevania.

EDIT: Added details for the uninitiated and removed the dragging of this good poster's name.
 
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The one that cannibalized an old comic series that played Catholcism straight, and shit it up with Korra-esque lesbianism?

Dear God man, way to tell on yourself with that one. The shitting on the original is on par with Castlevania.
Oh I genuinely have no idea what it is nor would I bother watching. I just know people were pissed that they kept petitioning for it to be saved. Granted, they tried this with other shows like Everwood but it failed.
 
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Oh I genuinely have no idea what it is nor would I bother watching. I just know people were pissed that they kept petitioning for it to be saved. Granted, they tried this with other shows like Everwood but it failed.
Oh okay. Yeah I regret to tell you that describing its fans as "people" may be a leap on your part.
 
Oh okay. Yeah I regret to tell you that describing its fans as "people" may be a leap on your part.
A group of degenerates how's that?
I've just been reminded that the merge of UPN and the WB Network into the CW ended up obliterating a ton of shows. HBO also did this recently.
 
WBD’s chief executive, David Zaslav, who has considered breaking up the company but concluded that is not currently the best option, said the market was being hit by a “generational disruption” that requires traditional TV companies to take “bold, necessary steps”.

Richard Broughton, director at Ampere Analysis, said: “Legacy TV businesses are in decline but the shift is not so rapid that it can’t be managed. There are still a lot of broadcast TV viewers, they have the time to pivot to profitability in the streaming world.”

Traditional TV networks should have pivoted a long, long time ago. But as is par for the course with these firms, they'll stomp their feet and deny reality that passage of time is a thing. They rely on being old and "experienced", on thinking they're too big to fail. Honestly this is the first news article I'm reading on the topic, so I'm willing to believe they were seeing it coming (like Disney did)... but now, it might just require building up reputation among the new generations all over again. It might not be as optimistic as they say.
 
There just isn’t anything worth paying for. The only television I’m exposed to is by force, usually in airports.

Airport TV is even worse. Sometime in the post chinavirus nightmare world airports stopped just playing the news and started with this airport tv bullshit. I think the last one I saw was 95% ads and some bullshit NPC-tier YouTube and TikTok content mixed in for the other 5%.

A screen was in every terminal with three or so screens per gate so you couldn’t escape. It made me want to throw myself into a jet engine. The worst part is watching people around me engage with it. Most people are braindead retards. It’s like a retarded monkey with a shiny toy. Makes me sick. TAD!
What's funny is I've been through airports a couple times in the last few years and I don't remember seeing a single TV like this, just the info screens of plane info.
 
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Lmao at that cope, the electric jew will pretty much die with boomers. At best, legacy media will limp along with retarded consoomers that want to condo on the same garbage as their parents. Even normalfags are starting to notice how pozzed it’s getting. Every relationship is interracial, only fags/troons/non whites/women, if there’s ever a straight white guy they’re fat/incompetent or evil. Rest in piss TV.

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I STILL vividly remember a guy in the Amazon warehouse break room complaining that every white man/man in general in a commercial was either stupid, fat or both..... In early 2015. People agreed with him.

People absolutely notice and get annoyed.
 
I like streaming services over cable. But, it can be hella frustrating. Like how paramount owns the rights to start trek now and Disney owns Star wars.

I have zero reason to subscribe to Disney or paramount solely just to watch Star Trek or Star Wars.

Paramount is a bit better but still there isn't much good on it.

It's things like this which makes streaming a pain in the ass. I pay for Hulu Plus and MAX. Really don't wanna pay for more.
 
you poor poor children

I'm old enuff to remember a show called Dallas. And when one of the main characters got shot in a cliffhanger season finale the whole western world ground to a halt.

Who Shot JR was one of the biggest events of the 80's. Back when TV was a mainstay of life and prime time was a real money maker for the networks. Shit Time magazine did a cover for it and this was back when Time was an actual respected news outlet and not the joke it became after 2016

Now everything seems so bland, corporate and frankly boring. Now that my family is all grown I haven't turn on my TV in almost a decade. Which is a bit of a shame cuz it's a really nice plasma tv that looks good but it's useless if there is nothing worth watching on tv or streaming.
 
you poor poor children

I'm old enuff to remember a show called Dallas. And when one of the main characters got shot in a cliffhanger season finale the whole western world ground to a halt.

Who Shot JR was one of the biggest events of the 80's. Back when TV was a mainstay of life and prime time was a real money maker for the networks. Shit Time magazine did a cover for it and this was back when Time was an actual respected news outlet and not the joke it became after 2016

Now everything seems so bland, corporate and frankly boring. Now that my family is all grown I haven't turn on my TV in almost a decade. Which is a bit of a shame cuz it's a really nice plasma tv that looks good but it's useless if there is nothing worth watching on tv or streaming.
Yep

Network TV was a HUGE deal decades ago. Networks would make multiple pilots each fall and spring and new shows would burn and die every year.

Getting syndicated was literally life altering as it means steady cash for your entire life.

Cable kinda changed this but it was still laying to play and usually dealt with more adult themes and had stuff you absolutely couldn't air on network TV like nudity, foul language and LOTS of sex and drugs.

HBO's Rome and the Sopranos were a huge deal in the late 1990s and early 2000s.

Let's not forget Cinemax aka Skinemax either

All that began to end the moment Netflix started streaming
 
Yep

Network TV was a HUGE deal decades ago. Networks would make multiple pilots each fall and spring and new shows would burn and die every year.

Getting syndicated was literally life altering as it means steady cash for your entire life.

Cable kinda changed this but it was still laying to play and usually dealt with more adult themes and had stuff you absolutely couldn't air on network TV like nudity, foul language and LOTS of sex and drugs.

HBO's Rome and the Sopranos were a huge deal in the late 1990s and early 2000s.

Let's not forget Cinemax aka Skinemax either

All that began to end the moment Netflix started streaming
It's the fractalization of culture that happened as soon as the 'Net and Social media let everyone crawl into their own little niche. I haven't watched network TV in twenty years because I'll never be able to catch up with it all. There's too much of it and it's mostly preachy garbage nowadays or made with a world view that I hate. I'll look up something that I enjoyed in my youth and find out that Hollywood has made at least three shitty reboots to it. I don't need an updating to my favorite childhood movie that features ipads, girlbosses, mulattos, and troons. The original movie was perfect and the kids of today don't need a lame and gay Current Year version of it.
 
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The article was published by the BBC's 'In Depth' team today, and it asks the pivotal question of whether traditional British TV can survive in the new age of streaming with Netflix and Amazon dominating that market.
The Beeb is fucked.

They had a nasty habit of burning their back catalogue for decades so their content library isn't as big as you'd think.

These days they also almost exclusively hire leftist fuckheads like that prick Gary Linkler (or similar) so the stuff they make now is almost unwatchable shit.
 
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