Admittedly, I never heard of Stonewall UK before.
Do I have this correct? The problem with Stonewall UK from a troon point of view: Insufficently hysterical ninnies.
It's a looong saga. The gist of it: charity founded in the late 80s by show-biz people and journos largely (Ian McKellen etc...) to defend G&Ls to the background of the AIDS crisis and Section 28.
After same-sex marriage was legalised in 2013, its new chief executive Ruth Hunt decided to pivot towards trans stuff after promising to various people she wouldn't do that. This mirrors what happened with various US orgs I think. Basically an advocacy group needs something to advocate for in order to fundraise, and achieving success is not necessarily good financially...
Stonewall rode the trans wave, earned a lot of money and caused a lot of damage providing training to businesses and other orgs on how to be trans-exclusive and TERF-exclusive. However the anti-trans backlash has hit it very hard and some legal action too and it eventually emerged that Stonewall was giving (or rather selling) incorrect legal advice. Many orgs withdrew from its schemes.
Stonewall has been sort of reeling for a few years, they have been forced to withdraw largely from the trans battlefield but without really admitting to it.
Further reading and sorry but I'm not archiving all this right now!
Scenario:
76 troons took the Trump genocide issue seriously enough to ... ahem ... identify as refugees and show up in the Netherlands. Hilarity ensues.
The headline is misleading, it's not a camp made for them.
Arc began to transition at the end of 2012, changing her ID to female the following year and having bottom surgery in Thailand in 2014. Yet Trump’s re-election meant no more anti-discrimination protections in their employment, housing, and healthcare. When her passport ran out, a new one would declare her a man again. So she left.
“This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever done,” she said in a Ter Apel cafe.
Interesting that he's covering his right wrist. That together with the old maps of the London Underground on the wall behind him makes me wonder if it's this monster who appeared on a You Tube video I watched a couple of weeks ago, who works as a signaller on said Underground.
A simple video about a long closed station on the London Underground
Then at 8 minutes an ogre appears...
To get a sense of scale
At least the company can force him to wear a uniform most of the time
The reaction shot is priceless
BFF, or Based Friend Forever: upon a tranny's announcement of a name change in a group chat where he expected all of his friends to fall into line accordingly, one man takes a stand and pens a thoughtful, measured response that still manages to draw the burning ire of his tranny pal. The essay OP's friend sends is honestly extremely satisfying to read - and makes me suspect OP's friend is a secret Kiwi - so rather than summarize, I don't want to spoil all the best parts. But just to whet your appetite, those of you who love to see true chivalry in action will enjoy it extra as OP's pal isn't keen on how he's behaved around women in the past and compares OP to a science-denying flat earther.
After being so eloquently and respectfully smacked down, I could never fathom being bold enough to post that shit fishing for sympathy. Obviously, trannies need affirmation from even spam mail. But, my god, how fucking embarrassing. I already know that troon is a transbian. He couldn’t bag a woman all these years, so now he’s playing dress up hoping for the bare minimum female attention. I can only imagine how much of a menace this man has been pretty much breathing down his friend’s wife’s neck.
Thank God, he stomped his feet and fucked off right off. Now that group can actually play the fucking game without that dude chimping out.
this is the epitome of luxury beliefs. how can these clowns share a refugee space with people fleeing actual war and true human rights violations and still think they’re huge victims
They're not and this needs to be emphasised. Visit Stonewall UK's website and try and tell me they are not lockstep with every troon demand possible.
What Stonewall's new president did was fail to say she wanted to hang, draw, and quarter JK Rowling. None of its other rhetoric and none of its policies have changed. Nevertheless, Stonewall will be subject to the same purity-spiral witch hunt that the left is addicted to.
Whether Stonewall is finally sobering up from their decade-long tranny-dick binge, or merely beginning to desperately exercise some kind of far-too-late-to-be-effective damage control, this remains a good sign. In either case, this development can only mean that even they perceive which way the winds are blowing.
Interesting that he's covering his right wrist. That together with the old maps of the London Underground on the wall behind him makes me wonder if it's this monster who appeared on a You Tube video I watched a couple of weeks ago, who works as a signaller on said Underground.
A simple video about a long closed station on the London Underground
Then at 8 minutes an ogre appears...
To get a sense of scale
At least the company can force him to wear a uniform most of the time
The reaction shot is priceless
Many of them truly, earnestly believe in their tRaNS geNOcIdE rhetoric, don't they?
They are somewhat akin to "sovereign citizens" in that their beliefs are so demonstrably false and stupid that an immense effort of will on our part is required to accept that yes, they really do believe that crazy shit — they are not pretending at all.
Hey guys! I'm a 17 year old gay (trans) dude. I plan to get more intentional about finding a partner in college. I'm super excited to meet people. However... this subreddit has made me a little scared. Some other subreddits have also scared me. It'd be nice if anyone has any advice.
I come across a bunch of posts about trans dudes in relationships with cis "gay" guys... only for the cis guy to be way less supportive than he initially seemed to be. Whenever I read those posts, I also get a bad feeling about the guy even at the start of the post... when they're talking about how he's "gay" and "accepts [the guy] as trans".
So now I'm super scared of dating one of these guys. I've found myself hoping there's at least something that might make it easier for me to spot the difference between a regular gay dude who doesn't mind dating a trans guy... and those terrifying people. I know that usually these guys are actually cishet dudes pretending to be okay with dating a guy, so I've been telling myself things like:
"Maybe this is a bigger risk with masculine cis guys who aren't openly queer."
"Maybe this is something that only bottoms have to worry about."
"Maybe I'll be able to tell the difference."
But... so many guys are getting tricked by these dudes. These cis guys must be even more terrifying than I thought. I'm only into feminine gay guys. I like submissive, flamboyant guys. Would I be safe if I make sure the guy is openly gay BEFORE he's into me? Am I going to get tricked either way? Do these men tend to go as far as being openly queer?
I'm curious if there's any way of spotting these guys. I don't mean spotting chasers on dating apps, I mean chasers who pretend to be gay guys in person just to get with trans men. You don't have to mention them having a weird obsession with trans guys in particular, that's obviously a chaser. Can anyone tell me about the more subtle cues?
Key quotes:
I come across a bunch of posts about trans dudes in relationships with cis "gay" guys... only for the cis guy to be way less supportive than he initially seemed to be. Whenever I read those posts, I also get a bad feeling about the guy even at the start of the post... when they're talking about how he's "gay" and "accepts [the guy] as trans".
But... so many guys are getting tricked by these dudes. These cis guys must be even more terrifying than I thought. I'm only into feminine gay guys. I like submissive, flamboyant guys. Would I be safe if I make sure the guy is openly gay BEFORE he's into me? Am I going to get tricked either way? Do these men tend to go as far as being openly queer?
It's very amusing that they left their comfy lives in the US to go and get treated like second class citizens in an asylum centre thousands of miles away.
I wonder if they'll ever realise that the press manipulated them with propaganda.
My neighbour just got back from the US today. She was worried about going a couple of weeks ago
for similar reasons, ie; Orange Man Bad and ICE murdering everyone. Apparently she survived and
had a nice time though.
Euan Weddell / Sophie Molly has some super serial problems today:
The SNP is probably the most absurdly pro-trans party in the UK. These loons are never not burning every possible bridge in public life. You love to see it.
Scenario:
76 troons took the Trump genocide issue seriously enough to ... ahem ... identify as refugees and show up in the Netherlands. Hilarity ensues.
I poste about a few weeks ago and the best part is the actual refugees in those camps think the troons are nuts to them America is the Dream they hope one day to legally make it to America if they can.
When you consider the existence of pack-and-play prosthetics, which are designed to be used during sex and general activities of daily living, I would argue it is a most apt descriptor. I would also say that any woman so emotionally dependent on a silicone dick - a silicock, one might say, emphasis on the "silly" - that she'll have a meltdown without it, definitely needs a psychiatric evaluation at the very least.
Thread tax.
A man can barely even keep company with his girlfriend because her very existence - effortless in its femininity - drives him to the brink of madness; as a result, he forces her to endure his erratic mood swings which, while he admits are not fair for her to put up with, he nonetheless blames her for instigating. Link | Archive
My gf is a cis woman and I'm a trans woman. I continuously get triggered by her, she can be doing such a simple thing and it would trigger me. I haven't started transitioning and can't anytime soon. I get triggered so many times everyday. Then it causes me to go cold and distant with her and I don't want to talk to her. Of course, I know she hasn't done a single thing wrong, I know that. I hate that I get so jealous and resent her. But I have no way to stop it. It's an endless cycle, I get triggered by her existence, I go cold and distant, then after a few days I get warmer again and closer and then I get triggered again and I go cold again. It just repeats constantly. It's not fair on her. And I hate it. I hate my jealousy, I hate getting triggered constantly over the smallest things. I hate that I resent her for being a cis woman and experiencing all the things I need to experience. I've given up in life a long time ago.
Man's ex-best friend: during an internship at a veterinary clinic, a closeted TiM has his feelings hurt when a woman's dog finds his presence most unsuitable, which leads to the all-female staff ousting OP from the examination room in order to maintain the mutt's comfort. Now, even though it's been months after the incident, OP still feels wounded by a rejection so biologically innate, it is inescapable. Link | Archive
Last December I did a work experience placement at a veterinary clinic, I shadowed a few different vets working there. I had only been 1 month on E, it's not like any of the other professionals or students could've thought I wasn't a guy or anything.
Near the end of my week there a woman comes in with her dog and tells the vet that she (her dog) basically doesn't like men.
The vet looks to me and I see myself out. I'm listening to basically the entire clinic's workforce (all 5 women) chattering and gushing over her dog while I'm sitting on the stairs hidden from the 1st floor.
It was quite an experience. I knew this wasn't out of some sort of animosity from the owner or the vet. It was because I was made like this that I couldn't be down there helping with the dog with the other girls.
I cringe whenever I think about it and can't even laugh about it with a friend and act like it was some funny crazy experience because I haven't ever been brave enough to open up to friends or family
Daddy-daughter dance, canceled: a spiteful li'l dood has ambitions of living long enough to bury her father due to his participation in one of the most vile abuses one can commit: trying to talk his crazy daughter out of poisoning herself out of fear that she'll get hurt. You know, OP, some dads actually beat, steal from, sell, rape and even murder their children. Have you considered giving your dear ol' Papa some credit? Link | Archive
Reddit axed my last post thinking I was the one being transphobic so sorry if repetitive
Started a conversation by asking why I couldn’t simply take more E instead of T to feel comfortable as a woman. I was too dumbfounded to give an answer.
He then asked if I would choose to be a cis woman if there was a pill to make me happy that way. I told him obviously yes. Nobody wants dysphoria. But that doesn’t exist. He said that T may make me more masculine, but I will never ever be a man. I will never be male. I’m 5’6”, have female bone structure, and don’t think like a man. People will always look at me and know something is off. I can never pass. I’m too feminine.
He keeps trying to convince me not to fully transition and explains it’s because he’s worried about my safety. I know that’s total bullshit. He even said point blank that he wishes more than anything that I wasn’t trans.
It then hit me: I could go stealth, but I will always have this one asshole knowing I’m female.
He makes me so goddamn angry and my biggest reason for staying alive right now is to outlive him, as a successful man. But I’m starting to doubt that will ever be possible.
A gayden (i.e., a regular degular hetty betty) is frustrated that the path she's chosen in life locks her out of the realm of love and romance as she personally feels she can't hook up with a homeboy 'til she's mutilated in the mimicry of masculinity. OP has a very oddly sturctured trajectory of her life as she seems to believe that if she doesn't have a husband and a family by 40 that her life won't be as fulfilling, and for such a traditional goal in life it's downright odd that she would choose to make a dream like this so difficult to reach by transitioning... but then again, troons 'n' poons rarely impress me with their foresight, planning and understanding of consequences. Link | Archive
I swear to god I hate my existence and that I need to not date until I fully surgically transition with top and bottom surgery. Goddammit. I am 24 and the T especially makes me hormonal as shit, and I really just want to go on and date and get married and start a family, but I know I cannot right now.
On the plus side I am in rural Ohio where I am the only person I know well that is queer, and even my acquaintances are lesbians even if they are queer. I am so bored. And I have no one to talk to about anything. Just two more years and then I graduate and can move away and start living a proper adult life. But how the heck are people already marrying and getting divorced? I feel so old.
People tell me to just be patient. And that's easier said than done. I just want to meet a nice guy and move on with my life. I like my life, but I'm tired of being the spokesperson of queer men in my area when idk anything about it either.
And then when I finally can date at 26, I have just 14 years to figure out how to date, find someone, get married, have kids. That's a lot to do in not even a decade and a half.
And it's really lonely. I don't have anyone I can properly speak to about any of this. And even if I did say something, no one would understand.
I have no clue what I am doing anymore.
A pediatric transitioner who allegedly came out at 7 years old and had bottom surgery - with two revisions - in fucking high school dictates the long and tragic tale of love lost, though OP seems far more upset that his ex-girlfriend wasn't around to assist him after his boob job than he is about losing what he describes as his "first love." This post is a great example of how even pediatric transitioners who grow up to be stealth, which is the ideal outcome, will never be happy despite what activists and allies claim; in the comments, OP writes that "I have no intention of ever breaking my stealth" even though he confesses that "dodging questions and being so quick to lie is so tiring i genuinely would not wish this life on anyone." Yes, I can see how important it is to troon out kids now! I mean, look at how well it's gone for this guy; surely this is a fate better than suicide, is it not? Link | Archive
Genuinely not sure how to start this. I transitioned very, very young. (like been in counseling since I was like 7, blockers since 10, started hrt at 12 young). I am unbelievably lucky to have had the support from my parents that I had. That being said, kids in my elementary school were cruel. A certain group of boys in my class would constantly bully me and out me to my friends, I have grown up with adults around me (including the school's principal) telling me (a fucking 7 year old that just wanted to wear a dress) I was wrong, confused, the whole 9. I never fully felt like I had a childhood of any kind because as soon as I could express myself, though there was support from my family, I have known that there was something fundementally 'wrong' with me in society's eyes from a very very young age.
When I went into middle school, I changed school districts and have been 100% stealth since then. I hid having bottom surgery in high school and two subsequent revisions from everybody around me, which was both the most transformative and important experience of my life but so unbelievably isolating. Every single detail of my transition has been meticulously kept private from everyone outside my direct family and my doctors/surgeons, and this was my decision.
that brings me to this: In my last two years of college, I met who I genuinely believe was my first love. She was unlike anybody I have ever met before and I truly did not know I could feel that way about someone else. I genuinely would have done anything for her.
I came out to her the day after I told her I loved her for the first time, and at the time she seemed perfectly okay with it and thanked me for telling her. Over the course of our relationship, it came up twice in private conversations, and I was very clear with her about my past and that I am 100% stealth. We had kind of merged friend groups, and I had plans to move in with two of our mutual friends after college. One day, she came to my house out of nowhere and dumped me. I did not find out until three months later that she had both cheated on me with multiple people, but also outed me to a close friend of hers. This was the first time I have dealt with being outed in well over a decade and it destroyed me mentally. Not only because it came from somebody so close, not just because it dug up so much past trauma I spent years of my life in therapy working through, but also because I found all this out about two months before having my BA.
I had the surgery date set and was trying to figure out how to tell her when she broke up with me. This was my final surgery, and I was so excited, but something about this situation has made it so I am nothing but hypervigilant since surgery. I am living with our mutual friends still (lease was signed before this fucking happened) and they know about the cheating, but that is it.They excuse her behavior and are still great friends with her and there is nothing I can do about it.
I finally have the body I have always dreamed of, but looking in the mirror makes me more emotional than anything. I have that sense of dread, that my roommates can tell I'm trans after this change even though I have hidden every bit of it to the best of my abilities, and this situation occupies a significant portion of my thoughts even today a year removed from when i found out she outed me. I am so paranoid that I was outed to more people. I have never felt so betrayed by somebody, and she has no idea how much it impacted because I never got to tell her I was having surgery. I feel like I should be so much happier with myself right now. I am finally done with having surgeries, done hating the current physical state of my body. That is something I genuinely never thought I would say, and it is true, but at the same time I feel like I just got home from war and every day still being in the same circle as her is so unbelievably overwhelming and nobody around me knows the real reason why.
I just want to be happy with my body and done with the whole situation.
Dead dove, do not eat: a ghoulish TiM is bothered by the fact that his malignant personality is made clear upon his face like he's a Mr. Hyde that can never turn back into Dr. Jekyll. Link | Archive
I have limp hair that always looks greasy or overly fine and frizzy giving me a constant "I've never brushed my hair and I barely shower" look My eyes are sunken and hollow with dark cycles and eye bags and are almost always puffy from my habitual crying which just makes me look like an unstable lunatic
I can't do proper facial expressions, I don't really naturally express much on my face so I have to intentionally do them and they either happen too slowly or too quickly so they're obviously fake and always uncanny and overdone
My teeth are sharp and slightly long so they just look predatory
I have long bony fingers and my hands are always shaking due to nerves so I just look out of place and like im up to no good
My arms are covered in scars and tbh I just have a blood smell on me as I pretty much always have fresh cuts
Plus I'm always incredibly scared and anxious which means jm always jumpy and blatantly out of place I probably seem so freakish to everyone around me
My family always tell me I'm creepy and say I remind them of Jeffery Dahmer and other infamous sickos
Finally, while admonishing nurses for the cavalier way in which they refer to tranny patients, a TiF gets more than she bargained for when she first took a stand once rumors start to spread among her coworkers that she's a hypersensitive clitoris given legs to walk and that people should be careful about what they say around her because of her status as a pooner. Though OP did not intend to be secretive about said status, she still feels naked and embarrassed, especially because she didn't want to be seen as "a snowflake" even if she is one. Since I'm always curious about these supposed "stealth" types, I dug up a selfie of her, so let me know, Kiwis: do you think she could pass as a lad over a lass? Link | Archive
so at my new job i pass and i’m stealth for safety because it’s a very conservative culture of all first generation africans and jamaicans in NYC that i work with. so even though only 2 are actually right wing politically, theres still an underlying longstanding culture of homophobia. i’m totally my fruity self still when i’m there, and when patients have asked me if i’m a man or a woman i just say i’m a person and move on. and i have disclosed to trans patients to help them feel safer. i started working there not intending to be stealth esp since i’m not a man but i guess i just passively let the staff he/him me when i started working there and went with it when i realized the unsafe space i was in. i figured when i felt safe if it came up then id totally open up about it because again, i’m surprised they even think i’m straight! i never said i was a man or straight, i just didnt say i wasnt and they ran with that. i like being a queer advocate there without me being “that trans guy” or “we have a them here”
WELL today a nurse was talking to another nurse next to me about a patient who is a transwoman and he called her “the man-woman” and i said “hey watch your mouth” and then i went about my business to go give my other patient a medication. i come back to my computer like 30mins later at the nurses station and a 3rd different nurse who wasnt there goes “heyy i mean this with all respect, i just found out youre transgender! i heard you were offended by something and i just i had no idea you were transgender even though weve talked about trans patients before and you were teaching me about pronouns before and i remember i was telling you that i may not understand but i respect whoever anyone is so if people just tell me how to call them then i will. but now i dont know how to act around you because i feel like ive been talking shit for months this whole time and i didnt know you were probably offended! but i dont mean anything homophobic, i support everyone, i just had no idea you were transgender until i was just told!”
and i was like “ummm just because i defended a patient doesnt mean im trans or that i’m offended? but okay?? i called him out for that like i call him out for other weird things he says but that doesnt mean i’m offended. im good, youre good, i’m just at work doing my thing ” i tried to be really light hearted and casual about it because if i figured one of them would google me and see my pronouns on my linked in or something as ask me lol and i’ve always advocated for our queer patients. but this is different. i was shocked.
still anyway my point is that one of the 2 initial nurses are now telling people im trans and i was confronted about it as if its something i shared when i didnt. being told i’m trans instead of being able to share that i’m trans sucks. and now i feel like everyones embarrassment with their own behavior is being projected onto me like im some snow flake that got offended and told off a nurse so now everyone has to watch what they say when thats not what happened!!
very icky feeling and looking for advise on how to handle weird conversations like this now
” i tried to be really light hearted and casual about it because if i figured one of them would google me and see my pronouns on my linked in or something as ask me lol and i’ve always advocated for our queer patients. but this is different. i was shocked.
and looking for advise on how to handle weird conversations like this now
