Off-Topic Trans Widows - Because why wouldn't this thread exist?

[Det. Frank Washington Esq]

Thank you The shame should be the troon's alone though, hopefully with more trans widows and orphans speaking up it will be, they don't deserve the shame of these men.

Damn, I was thinking about trans widows so much I forgot about the trans orphans! Talk about the ultimate hapless victims. I think I'm going to mine for those stories. That may be harder considering they're more open to suggestion, and this is the era where the rainbow is fashionable community to be in.

 

[Fapcop]

Just in case you were curious as to what these couples look like:








Four kids, married for a decade, but the coom is too strong!

 

[Thiletonomics]

There’s a lot of truth in that as an idea. Marriages tend to often survive one off incidents like a ONS if people genuinely repent and do better but they don’t survive twenty years of just small disrespectful stuff. I reckon there’s more chance of surviving a one night stand with regret than there is of twenty five years of treating the wife like a doormat/maid.
As a group it’s a thing as well. You saw that with Covid - they ease off for a bit then hammer restrictions back down and it breaks people. Someone in one of those threads mentioned how this is similar to a torture technique used to break enemy combatants in camps. Cptsd gets tossed around a lot by many munchies in here but this is a real condition and mainly it’s ’bad shit over time’ as opposed to ptsd which is more often ‘bad shit over a shorter time.’

If yoir husband has died that’s awful, you can remember him with love, and your life together with happiness, eventually. The memory itself is a blessing. A trooned out husband wrecks everything, all the memories, it’s more like a form of abuse of the wife and the children. It’s worse than death.

Has there been examples of what happens with the family that is left behind when a trooned out husband dies, either though medical complications, 41%, or "being the victim of a transphobic crime", even if he wasn't murdered specifically because trans? Does the wife and children feel guilt about "not doing" enough to prevent the death? Do they get attacked and blamed by the community, MSM, and even the Government for transphobia and causing the husband to die? Or do they feel (at least some) relief that the deadbeat husband is out of the picture for good?

Also, in regards to trooned out husbands that die, how are the financial liabilities of the dead husband handled, namely in the cases where the husband troons out, leaves the family, and dies without officially signing divorce paperwork?

Another thing that doesn't seem to get mentioned, is how much more rare is it for wives to troon out and abandon the family, compared to the sheer amount of husbands that do the same?

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Damn, I was thinking about trans widows so much I forgot about the trans orphans! Talk about the ultimate hapless victims. I think I'm going to mine for those stories. That may be harder considering they're more open to suggestion, and this is the era where the rainbow is fashionable community to be in.

I've seen stories pop up in online communities with heavy anonymity, but very sporadically. My sense is that the aura of shame is far more intense than it is for the "widows." After all you can get a divorce and move away, but even if you never speak to your troondad or poonmom again, you walk around with one of their chromosomes, seeing their features in the mirror.

It is a fucking shitty thing to do to your kids.

There were more stories available back pre-Obergefell, actually- there were repositories of "my parents were LGBT of some form and it wasn't so great for me" on advocacy sites. But the guy who ran one of the biggest ones got Null'ed off the internet- put on GLAAD hitlists and everything- and it all has gone down with him.

Four kids, married for a decade, but the coom is too strong!

The poor wife is vacillating between divorce or killing herself, however, there IS another option....

(Nah she should just divorce him. But we'd all forgive her if she considered the alternative.)

 

[stupid frog]

Damn, I was thinking about trans widows so much I forgot about the trans orphans! Talk about the ultimate hapless victims. I think I'm going to mine for those stories. That may be harder considering they're more open to suggestion, and this is the era where the rainbow is fashionable community to be in.

Do they have a thread yet?

 

[BoomerSperg1922]

This kinda reminds me when a notorious pooner from SRS horrors died, I think it was featured a while back, they died at 24 from their "life saving" surgeries.

I said it would of probably been better for everyone if they were murdered at 23, since its easier to view it that someone was cut down "in their prime" (even if not their prime) than watch someone circle the drain in a miserable way. I think this is a truth that people implicitly "know" but its rarely stated.

also reminds me of that idea from sun tzu, that trauma to a group is better as one massive, quick trauma, than something drawn out, as a quick trauma is more easily forgotten than something awful over years.

Same vibe for bubba copeland. He had a horrible self made situation, but he died and it was over quick, compared to others. As awful as his situation was, he won't live on like ghost to haunt the family at least.

I think what bugged me about bubba copeland is that he was clearly just a weird crossdressing freak and was completely self-aware about it. I know people will say 'but that's just the average tranny' but the difference is that trannies will insist that they're women and not just gross guys dressing up. He didn't.

He was a retard for posting his creepy sex fetish online but at the same time I don't consider him as vile as the average troon.

Sort of reminds me of less retarded Chris Chan. Not a woman, just a fat autist with enough self-awareness to eat his gun instead of devolving into thinking he's a goddess.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Do they have a thread yet?

They should stay in this thread since the accounts are the same but from the children's perspective.

 

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I think I just got re-peaked. Does it ever end?

I feel silly for not ever thinking before of the possibilities for abusive men to use their trannyman status to control and further abuse their victims.

This is a fucking horror show.

 

[stupid frog]

They should stay in this thread since the accounts are the same but from the children's perspective.

Maybe we can edit the title to include them. Trans Orphans?

 

[Squishie PP]

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I feel silly for not ever thinking before of the possibilities for abusive men to use their trannyman status to control and further abuse their victims.

This is a fucking horror show.

It is the only current way around the laws that protect against domestic abuse. If gender identity is perceived as mutable by the legal system, and people who change their gender are seen as a protected class, then such people can use their identity as a shield. I have no doubt that a lot of the trannies transitioned in large part due to this advantage.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

@Det. Frank Washington Esq

Philomena's Story: There and Back Again.

That's an appalling story. If she'd murdered him and I'd been on the jury, that woman would have walked Scot free.

@Poppy Brown
I wonder how all the anti-divorce Christians like Matt Walsh reconcile with this scenario. Do they still think someone should stay even in the face of troonery?

I can't tell if you are genuinely ignorant or if you think this is some kind of antiChristian "gotcha" moment. I suspect the latter.
If you'd ever actually listened to Matt Walsh, you'd know he would tell those women to immediately divorce any man Troons Out. He went over that in detail when Chris Tyson did it.
Also, this is the correct Biblical response to such behaviour:
1 Corinthians 5:5

Christians do not have any obligation to stay with a spouse who wants to engage in acts of evil and perversion. Quite the opposite.

 

[Izdaja Slika]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLRMKrotJZM

A trans widow's story on the Heretics youtube channel. She's older and wiser than when she married her sex-mimic husband, and is very articulate about her experiences.

Her husband was secretly on wrong-sex hormones for 11 years of their 15 year marriage. We need more anti-handmaidens like this.

 

[Paper Machete]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLRMKrotJZM

A trans widow's story on the Heretics youtube channel. She's older and wiser than when she married her sex-mimic husband, and is very articulate about her experiences.

Her husband was secretly on wrong-sex hormones for 11 years of their 15 year marriage. We need more anti-handmaidens like this.

I think she's earlier in the thread, I think. But it's a new interview and a good one. I like that she doesn't pussy foot around like some of the others do. The ftm chick her husband got with that made her kids give her injections is just awful. I'd been in jail for getting into it with that dyke wannabe.

EDIT: I really liked the term she brought up. Autotransphilia. She said it was earlier in the internet days but has since been wiped and was used for either sex when it's a fetish for them.

 

[Athena Save Us!]

A soon-to-be widow. I posted this originally on the Ls thread, and then I went looking for a news story, wound up here, and then retardedly went, "Oh yeah, that screenshot probably would've been better to post here."

These are the texts. It looks like someone's life just got upended because a husband decided to troon out. Funny how it's his feelings that matter and not the depressed and devastated wife.

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[Len Kagamine]

The concept of trans orphans genuinely makes me MATI. I think most mentally sound parents, both mothers and fathers, have a deep evolutionary protective instinct that takes over when they see their own children that makes them put them over themselves. There have been countless cases in history of parents making maasive sacrifices for their kids, even at the risk of their own lives. These troons are lacking that basic human instinct. They'd rather put themselves and their fetish over their kids.

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Without going into too much detail, my dad stayed in a miserable situation to raise me because he knew I'd have no chance of being treated and raised well otherwise. I'm sure it was hell but he chose every day to come home from work even though it would have been so easy to just not do that one day and be free forever.

And no one's even asking these troons for that much sacrifice! They literally just need to be a normal father/mother, and they can't even do that. Makes my blood boil. Why even have children if you're that selfish? Of course there's definitely worse things a kid can go through at the hands of abusive parents, don't get me wrong, but it's just such an avoidable issue all because the troon can't get their head out of their own ass for five seconds. It's even more disgusting when they try to paint their distressed children (and heartbroken spouse) as "transphobes".

 

[norito]

The selfishness of fags and of autogynephiles- to wait until they have wives, and usually kids, until they spring their fetish 'true selves!!1' onto their poor unsuspecting XXccessories- is undeniable and universal. I feel dread for these women and any children they may have; that level of deception should be considered abuse, adultery, and fraud. The general public wouldn't care a fraction as much as it currently does about lgbt issues, if they only wanted to play dress-up or kiss other men in private. If only they didn't feel the voyeuristic need to always include and drag down other nonconsenting innocents in their degeneracy.. and especially the poor children. There will never be any reasonable excuse for allowing themselves to take it that far, yet it's such a recurrent thread in these not-so-fringe cases.

Women really have to play with a loaded gun if they date men, now more than ever. He's the 'perfect guy', but thinks anime girls are hot- roll the dice and waste years of your life to find out if he'll start to think he's one-- offer valid after you get married or have children together.

 

[Flan Handler]

XXccessories

Perfection.

The trans parents are the worst. I wish these people would blow up their lives when it’s just their parents and SOs affected. That sucks but everyone involved is an adult and can make decisions with some agency.

Think of the divorce epidemic, and how it affects kids and ripples out over generations. Talk to a forty-something whose parents divorced decades ago, and it’s still a factor today- step families, coordinating holidays, inheritances- for the kids (and their kids) it never really ends.

We will see something similar with the parent trannies, and munchie moms transing toddlers. Decades of pain, confusion, and emotional damage for kids because children don’t arrive with a solid identity and can be programmed at young ages.

The thing these trends have in common is the narcissism of adults who imagine that their bullshit is justified because “my kids want me to be happy”, and the granddaddy of all cope, “kids are resilient”. Anyone who utters these words is about to do something monstrous to the most vulnerable and dependent people in their lives.

 

[Anasa Tristis]

no one's even asking these troons for that much sacrifice!

Doesn't matter. Any amount of sacrifice is too much. Sacrifice is for suckers and losers.

Think of the divorce epidemic, and how it affects kids and ripples out over generations. Talk to a forty-something whose parents divorced decades ago, and it’s still a factor today- step families, coordinating holidays, inheritances- for the kids (and their kids) it never really ends.

We will see something similar with the parent trannies, and munchie moms transing toddlers. Decades of pain, confusion, and emotional damage for kids because children don’t arrive with a solid identity and can be programmed at young ages.

I agree, but see above, LOL. Any kind of unselfish act (or simply honoring a commitment made before your gods and community for that matter) is no longer considered a virtue. Not when it interferes with self actualization and/or personal freedom. Marriage and family as order imposing institutions have been nearly completely destroyed thanks to that very modern attitude. People believe that tech and progress will fill in the holes. Or that being unselfish on a grand scale (idpol politics) will make up for being selfish on a personal one. But they never do, and the damage compounds over generations. Selfish, irresponsible parents become divorced parents who show and tell their slightly estranged kids that it's ok to shirk your vows and responsibilities. Their kids grow up, get married (or not) and do the same thing.

 

[Len Kagamine]

I agree, but see above, LOL. Any kind of unselfish act (or simply honoring a commitment made before your gods and community for that matter) is no longer considered a virtue. Not when it interferes with self actualization and/or personal freedom.

This is true, even as someone who's pretty libertarian on most topics; I believe personal freedoms go as far as the rights of others, and whether it harms people close to you, ESPECIALLY your family.

A major problem is that this modern mindset is not equal. Some have more "freedom" than others. Self-actualization is above all else when it comes to troons, they can do whatever they want at the expense of others because them being "affirmed" is all that matters, no matter the cost. Same goes for other groups that progressives worship, but troons are especially held above all else. Women > normal men, but troons > women.

But personal freedom goes to the wayside if you don't use the pronouns, or say anything bad about the trans ideology. Might as well be thrown to the wolves. Even keeping to yourself and not going out of your way to kiss the asses of the "oppressed" classes is evil according to the more extreme progressives. Just remember how many libtards pushed the "white silence is violence" thing during the height of BLM. Now you're starting to see the same thing again after the election, and now with troons demanding the "cis" to protect them from Orange Hitler who's totally going to genocide everyone who isn't a Straight White Aryan Male™ soon, and if you say we're exaggerating you're obviously an evil nazi too.

Using your freedom to be troon out is BRAVE AND STUNNING but doing it to speak against the bs or literally just stay the fuck away is evil and privileged.

 

[Scrumption]

If you're looking for a trans widow memoir, I really enjoyed Sex Changes by Christine Benvenuto.

I just finished reading this. The selfishness of her troon ex-husband is just a bottomless pit. A masterclass in narcissism. It goes beyond the pages of the book too. He is given a pseudonym in the book of Tracey, but real name Jay Ladin wrote I looked into the ex-husband. He published a memoir under his new name, Joy Ladin, just before Christine published hers. I won’t deign to read it but he portrays himself as such a hero as do articles online.

He worked as a professor at Yeshiva University, an orthodox Jewish college in New York. A few weeks after getting tenure in 2008, he announced to the administration that he was grooming out. The school put him on leave for like a year, with full pay, and were forced by his lawyer to reinstate him. It parallels what he and many troons do: marry a women, make them financially reliant, have a child, and then troon out.

While Christine has woken up to the majority of the gender garbage, her strong liberal roots prevent her from outright recognizing all troons as disgusting, just her husband. She hasn’t fully realized that transgenderism is bullshit.