Off-Topic Trans Widows - Because why wouldn't this thread exist?

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Salute to you who decided not to turn your mid (or quarter) life crisis into a family-ruining occasion where the desires of your flesh caused you to chase the coom dragon.

Aw shit, thank you! That’s mighty kind.

As a father I can’t understand why any of these sickfucks would ever put their children through… THAT!

TLDR: she wants kids. Her husband trooned out, possibly due to her (not "we") getting pregnant, and has serious mental illnesses including multiple suicide attempts and the long list of personality disorders and "autism" that troons always have. He doesn't want biological kids anymore, and she's in denial about this relationship being over.

Where the fuck do they find these women?!!

Is there a long line of buck broken women who will swear undying love to the first man who looks at them, that I’ve never been told of?!
 
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Who cares? If he was hot before, he might turn into a fuckable tranny.

It would be kinda of like being a lesbian, but your wife has a schlong, and honestly, sex without a cock is not even sex.

If he doesnt even look like a woman after transition, nothing changed. Stop bitching about it daily. So annoying.
^ this is what transwomen actually believe
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If you're looking for a trans widow memoir, I really enjoyed Sex Changes by Christine Benvenuto.
 
Where the fuck do they find these women?!!

Is there a long line of buck broken women who will swear undying love to the first man who looks at them, that I’ve never been told of?!
Yes, and they're all likely from hard family backgrounds and or not that attractive to most men. It's a not so well kept secret.
 
We weren't married. We were only together for a few years. But even recently, many years later, I have still found myself missing... I once told a friend that I couldn't imagine a future without him, and that has still somehow rung true. For a long time after the break-up, it felt like I was swimming in lava.

My ex-partner told me early in our relationship that he was neither male nor female, but also that his thoughts were purely "psychological". I was like a frog in a pot of increasingly hot water, looking on with concern but a false sense of security as the hormones were taken and the breasts grew, until the day he was referred to as "she" by a mutual friend, and the gates of hell opened.

For around a year, the pain of the sudden detachment from who I thought I had been sharing my life with was excruciating and constant. I went to my GP because I thought I was having heart palpitations 24/7. It was anxiety.

The person I had fallen in love with no longer existed but had "he" ever existed? Is that a philosophical question? A gender-science question? It is a question I must not openly ask.

Even today I have moments of reverie, a fantasy of us together, the future - I hadn't consciously acknowledged at the time - I wanted deep down in my soul. I still have moments where I forget I live in the twenty-first century, I forget I live in a world where "transgender" exists, despite the constant reminders in the media. I forget that he is not a he. I forget the searing pain of the truth that kicked in the door of my heart all those years ago and forced my eyes open to the blinding reality.

I don't like the side of myself that feels bitter. I don't like the anger that rises up in me when my brain starts functioning properly in the space-time continuum again and I read just like I've just woken up on a strange boat in the middle of the ocean before watching a quick highlight reel of what has actually happened in the intervening years like some Kafkaesque horror-satire of a romantic comedy. Yet how are you supposed to process that the person you loved doesn't exist never existed?

I imagine the pain and confusion is similar for the spouses of people who suddenly come out as gay, except this isn't sexuality; who someone is or isn't attracted to. It's gender. My boyfriend was never a boyfriend. ... has always been a woman.

That is what we are being educated to believe.
I was in love with the facade of a man? Is it more like catfishing?

I don't want to be bitter or intolerant. I don't want to be "in denial". But sometimes my mind needs respite.
 
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Welp... the Trans Widows Voices site is a tapped well...

However, there's trusty Reddit. While I might not be able to get accounts that pass through the janny mod barrier (I'll definitely keep an eye out), I can present to you some good 'ol seething about it.

That said, today we go to r/transgender to check out this gem.

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Which links here.

Often trans people marry in their assigned gender, and transition later. Women married to trans women often stay married, as a loving couple, or they may split in a reasonable, amicable manner, remaining friends, caring for children together, making sure the split is as fair as possible. Unfortunately, some women refuse to move on from the relationship, though it has ceased. They believe they have been wronged, and find online communities which affirm that. They can become the most obsessive anti-trans campaigners.


“Trans Widows Voices” is a particularly poisonous site. It encourages women to stew in their hatred, and foments the myth of autogynephilia. The self-righteous victimhood damages the relationship with the former partner, and harms both the divorcing wife and the trans woman.


“Women report feeling like their male partner has died.” In the loss of her relationship, the woman will go through a process of mourning. She has suffered a trauma. However if there is any blame, it is on the wider society, which so stigmatises trans people that we are in denial, and terrified to admit our true selves. It is not on the trans woman who has found the courage to express herself at last.


“This site uses correct sex pronouns.” That is, it denies the trans woman’s experience and the reality that trans people exist, and transition in the most awful circumstances. “We also support women having the language to accurately describe their own experiences and to represent their reality.”


“Shalyn’s story” is pitiable. They may have married too young: she graduated from university after marriage. The couple should never have married, and the wife appears to have been in denial throughout. “I thought we had a great relationship,” she writes, after writing of things she found a turnoff: the trans woman’s shaving her legs and acting submissive in the bedroom. Some men are submissive. Some women are assertive.


The trans woman did not handle it well. When her wife repeatedly confronted her, each time she would promise not to cross-dress again. The wife says the woman insisted they start a family, and eventually have three children, though she complains of the lack of sex in their marriage.


Mary Joan says it was a lie when her trans woman husband said “My wife always knew I was transgender”. She knew the woman liked to wear women’s clothes during sex. She calls this “autogynephilia”, spreading misunderstanding. “Even now, I still grieve for my lost husband and I think I shall always do so.” Oh, the poor woman! You have to be able to move on. Ending a marriage is always traumatic. Wallowing like this, “many years later”, is deeply unhealthy for you and your children.


She admits her ex-spouse pays maintenance for the children, so her account of the trans woman’s chaotic lifestyle may be exaggerated. I would not trust her to give a clear understanding of transition, because she projects all the blame on her former partner.


The FAQs encourage a complete inability to deal with the situation in a healthy way. They say a woman whose husband cross dresses is a trans widow. It’s as if cross dressing is such a betrayal that the husband disappears.


“Isn’t the term offensive? Many actual widows understand that the analogy is appropriate.” “What about the women who are happy with their trans woman husbands? We are here if and when their situation changes.” They are modelling a complete denial of the trans experience. Nothing can be admitted which might show that the cis woman was at all at fault- except, perhaps, for initially going along with the trans woman’s transition. The trans woman is called a man, a pervert, a betrayer.


Who runs the site? TinselAngel, a trans widow, who supports trans widows on Mumsnet, Twitter, and other channels. That is, an obsessive, who seeks validation of her obsession by drawing others in.


“Why didn’t you leave sooner? We understand how difficult it can be for a woman to leave a marriage.” So do I.


“Are you transphobic? No. We believe that our reality is as valid as that of our ex-husbands.” Er, um. In each of these stories, a blameless woman has been fooled into marriage and deceived throughout. When marriages end, the story is always more complex. Even when one person is wholly a victim, unable to do any better, the other is rarely entirely a wrongdoer. They can’t see this as transphobia, because they think they are entirely good, and transphobia sounds like a bad thing.


Challenged that “Autogynephilia doesn’t exist” she merely states “We don’t believe that we are propagating a myth.” If she cited various articles, as she could, claiming it exists, I would have more respect for her. “We are merely reporting our own experiences,” she says, as if only her perspective matters. That is the way to stew in grievance forever, and actively to prevent moving on.


“We will provide an evidence base,” she says. She only provides evidence of her own failure to move on, or to understand from another’s point of view.


It seems this TinselAngel is the main campaigner demanding that women stew in victimhood and rage rather than seek a healthy relationship with their ex-spouse or a way to move on. She tweets as Trans Widows’ voices, and writes articles for other groups. There is not enough demand, even on Ovarit, to have other specialist “trans widow” groups.


Uncommon Ground’s mission statement denies it simply attacks the Left, and says “The solutions for the world’s problems are to be found in compassion tempered by reason,” but Tinsel Angel’s article is in starkly Us and Them terms: she complains of feminist groups accepting trans women, and says she needs help. “Who is more important to the Womens’ Liberation movement: me or my ex-husband?” Ideally, both. However, she goes on to criticise WPUK for not being transphobic enough.


The trans widows site has twelve personal stories, of women raging against their trans ex-husbands. Any woman who can’t bear her husband’s cross dressing, or wish to transition, should avoid it like the plague.


To the wives of trans women, who want to leave them: you should not be pressured into supporting your husband if you don’t want to. Sex is usually an integral part of marriage, and you don’t have to stay if it changes. In Britain, your husband’s cross dressing or wish to transition would count as “unreasonable behaviour”, entitling you to a divorce. But try to maintain an amicable relationship, for the sake of any children and for your own sake. You are entitled to define your boundaries, but please do not get trapped in this profitless hatred.
 
This can’t be real.
“We are merely reporting our own experiences,” she says, as if only her perspective matters. That is the way to stew in grievance forever, and actively to prevent moving on.
As usual, you can ignore everything that comes before the word “but”:
To the wives of trans women, who want to leave them: you should not be pressured into supporting your husband if you don’t want to. Sex is usually an integral part of marriage, and you don’t have to stay if it changes. In Britain, your husband’s cross dressing or wish to transition would count as “unreasonable behaviour”, entitling you to a divorce. But try to maintain an amicable relationship, for the sake of any children and for your own sake. You are entitled to define your boundaries, but please do not get trapped in this profitless hatred.
Is this writer trying to incite hate crimes? Because this is how you incite hate crimes.
 
@Flan Handler
"But try to maintain an amicable relationship, for the sake of any children"
holy shit no
the husband turning into a grotesque sexual degenerate is one of the rare cases where i really think that cutting him out of the childrens lives completely is actually the best thing to do.
i don't say that lightly, i think that even violent criminals or wife beaters can sometimes still provide positive value as a presence in their childrens lives. but a troon is a man who has let sexual deviancy consume his entire life and identity, such a 'person' really should not be allowed to be an influence on children under any circumstances.
 
The Associated Press has a feel good fluff piece on trans marriages today:

Can a marriage survive a gender transition? Yes, and even thrive. How these couples make it work​

Lasoff-Santos’ relationship and others like it show that a partner’s gender transition does not necessarily mean a death sentence for a marriage. Data is scant, but couples and therapists say that in many cases, a relationship grows and flourishes under the light of new honesty.
Many such cases of growth and flourishing, despite no data! Right. And then two paragraphs later:
Kristie Overstreet, a sexologist and psychotherapist who says she has worked with trans people for 18 years, says about 2 in 5 relationships survive a transition. And Kelly Wise, a sex therapist in Pennsylvania, estimates that about half of relationships in his practice that experience a gender transition end — for many reasons.
So a marriage survival rate of 40%? Kek.


And at the very bottom there's a brief word about the author:

McMillan is an Associated Press editor and writer based in Pennsylvania. He is a member of the AP Stylebook team.
Of course he is.
 
“Are you transphobic? No. We believe that our reality is as valid as that of our ex-husbands.” Er, um. In each of these stories, a blameless woman has been fooled into marriage and deceived throughout.
Where's the lie, troons?

Funny how so much of this has the same vibes as middle aged MRAs bitter about divorce rape.
 
Regardless of whether you believe in trannyhood or not these women married men because that's who they're attracted to and wanted, if that man no longer wants to be one then of course the romantic/sexual attraction aspect is going to have a wrench thrown in it. Sexual dysfunction and money issues are some of the main reasons relationships end. Anyone on any side of the aisle should clearly be able to understand this but they can't even let that go because they're such control freaks.
 
the retard fell for the bait lmao
This idiot, and many others fall for the meme of "its 2024! love is love! acceptance, tolerance! Everyone will love you!"
They don't even BOTHER consider the feelings of the women involved.
So a marriage survival rate of 40%? Kek.
So their suicide rate is also their marriage destruction rate? Very interesting. Also for the "survivors", I wonder if the women just had ego death, and accepted their shitty life. I would assume so, since these trannies don't care about their wifes feelings anyway.
 
"The media and your online friends have encouraged you to think there’s some kind of malignant trans cabal who have stolen your partner, who have taken away your happy life. But there isn’t, and you are as responsible for the future (or not) of your marriage as your partner is. If it breaks down, that is a genuine reason for grief. There is no right or wrong in grief; you feel what you feel and it’s important you work through that without ascribing moral judgment to your feelings"

That last line IS FUCKING DISGUSTING. For laymen terms, this is IDENTICAL messaging "Look you have a right to be pissed your husband is wearing a dress and swishing around in a dress like a megafaggot, and trying to act like a lesbian with you, and you should process it in private til you get over it, BUT, you shouldn't cause a fuss."
 
So their suicide rate is also their marriage destruction rate? Very interesting. Also for the "survivors", I wonder if the women just had ego death, and accepted their shitty life. I would assume so, since these trannies don't care about their wifes feelings anyway.
40% of the marriages “survive”. Supposedly. Zombie marriages. Who knows what the real stats are. It’s not like there’s a He Went Troon box to check off on divorce paperwork. Not in the US. Yet! But stay or go, the marriage is trashed. Often much more.
 
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