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This statement really got to me.
Off-Topic Trans Widows - Because why wouldn't this thread exist?
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Sorry to necro this thread, but you don't happen to have these saved somewhere do you? I have been trying to go through all the thread and I haven't found them again. I swore i came across them ages ago.
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"I am transgender and am immediately going to start transition. But I am also your husband, so you have a say in all of this."
That was the first lie. It was maybe a week before it was made clear to me that I had no voice in this at all. That nothing I said mattered, and that my ex would continue to make and break promises to me. The next several months were lie after lie. Many months of lies.
A lot of lies were gaslighting and revisionist history, like what my husband told our friends and family: "My wife always knew I was transgender."
No, I knew my husband liked to wear women's clothing only during sex and be pegged by me wearing a strap-on. That's a fetish called autogynephilia, where a man gets a sexual thrill from pretending to be a woman. That's not an identity.
After my ex came out to me, I tried to be supportive. We went to transgender support groups together, which in retrospect were utterly appalling. I remember the facilitators telling a father whose young daughter wanted to start hormones that he must go along with it, even though this girl would likely be sterile and potentially have other negative health effects. And people telling me "how beautiful" it was that I was supporting my spouse in transition, while inside I felt like I was dying from it all, so stressed that it felt like I was always about to have a coronary. I as the wife didn't matter in those groups, other than as a politically-correct favoured ornament on my spouse's arm. It was all and only ever about the transgender person and them doing whatever they wanted.
As this went on, I realized how lonely I had been in my marriage, for many years. I was basically living the life of a single mother, hoping my husband would want to spend time with me and our children. After the transgender announcement, the neglect became worse, and it was very obvious how irrelevant our children and I were to my spouse in this newfound quest. And then the massive expenses began to rack up: clothing, wigs, electrolysis and waxing, voice training. Eventually I realized that this stressful situation, where I had no idea what my husband would demand to do next or what the next broken promise might be, it was physically killing me and I needed to leave.
I told my husband that I wanted a divorce. He told me I was making a terrible mistake. He explained how he would become this amazing person after transition, when he is free to be his true self as a woman. That the drinking and being an absentee spouse and parent, all of that bad behaviour was because of his gender dysphoria and would be cured by transition.
Fast forwards several years to today. My ex-spouse pays child maintenance but otherwise barely interacts with our children. Mutual friends tell me that my ex lives in state of hoarding and filth, and has become an alcoholic. That's my ex's life as their "authentic self".
For a brief time I bought into that fantasy that somehow taking hormones and wearing women's clothing would turn my ex into a better human being and parent. But that is not what happened. If anything, my ex's worst traits have magnified since transition.
I try to feel compassion for my ex, but it has been difficult to feel anything but anger and resentment. All of this transformation came at a very high price for myself and our children, both financially and emotionally. I expect I will be paying for counsellors for many years.
But a lot of what I feel now, many years later, is simply relief. I am glad I am no longer entangled with this person and never shall be again. I feel as though I am still reconstructing my own life, but even so, my life is better now than when I was married. I am able to be a good mother to my children. I have done well in my career, and I have time for my children and to engage in hobbies.
I cannot bring myself to date anyone, though. I do not think I shall ever trust anyone to be a romantic partner to me again.
And even now, I still grieve for my lost husband and I think I shall always do so. But I want nothing to do with who this person is now. It is very clear that the person I fell in love with, my former husband... that person effectively died many years ago, if they ever existed at all.
For anyone else in this situation: please ask for help and find a way through this. Read available resources on narcissism and autogynephilia, both of which appear to be very common in these "married and transitioning at or beyond the age 40" scenarios. Find a counsellor (and likely a solicitor) who can help you. Do not fall for the lie that everything is all about this transgender person and that you and your life and mental health is irrelevant compared to what they're dealing with.
Please do not ignore the fact that you are going through life-changing trauma and yes, there is a high probability that you shall divorce your husband. It is one of the many odd similarities I have learned since meeting other trans widows: along with the sexual obsessions and profligate spending and narcissism, we are also almost always the one in the marriage who initiates divorce proceedings.
You do not have to live as a prisoner in a marriage with a neglectful or abusive spouse. There is a life waiting for you on the other side.
That was the first lie. It was maybe a week before it was made clear to me that I had no voice in this at all. That nothing I said mattered, and that my ex would continue to make and break promises to me. The next several months were lie after lie. Many months of lies.
A lot of lies were gaslighting and revisionist history, like what my husband told our friends and family: "My wife always knew I was transgender."
No, I knew my husband liked to wear women's clothing only during sex and be pegged by me wearing a strap-on. That's a fetish called autogynephilia, where a man gets a sexual thrill from pretending to be a woman. That's not an identity.
After my ex came out to me, I tried to be supportive. We went to transgender support groups together, which in retrospect were utterly appalling. I remember the facilitators telling a father whose young daughter wanted to start hormones that he must go along with it, even though this girl would likely be sterile and potentially have other negative health effects. And people telling me "how beautiful" it was that I was supporting my spouse in transition, while inside I felt like I was dying from it all, so stressed that it felt like I was always about to have a coronary. I as the wife didn't matter in those groups, other than as a politically-correct favoured ornament on my spouse's arm. It was all and only ever about the transgender person and them doing whatever they wanted.
As this went on, I realized how lonely I had been in my marriage, for many years. I was basically living the life of a single mother, hoping my husband would want to spend time with me and our children. After the transgender announcement, the neglect became worse, and it was very obvious how irrelevant our children and I were to my spouse in this newfound quest. And then the massive expenses began to rack up: clothing, wigs, electrolysis and waxing, voice training. Eventually I realized that this stressful situation, where I had no idea what my husband would demand to do next or what the next broken promise might be, it was physically killing me and I needed to leave.
I told my husband that I wanted a divorce. He told me I was making a terrible mistake. He explained how he would become this amazing person after transition, when he is free to be his true self as a woman. That the drinking and being an absentee spouse and parent, all of that bad behaviour was because of his gender dysphoria and would be cured by transition.
Fast forwards several years to today. My ex-spouse pays child maintenance but otherwise barely interacts with our children. Mutual friends tell me that my ex lives in state of hoarding and filth, and has become an alcoholic. That's my ex's life as their "authentic self".
For a brief time I bought into that fantasy that somehow taking hormones and wearing women's clothing would turn my ex into a better human being and parent. But that is not what happened. If anything, my ex's worst traits have magnified since transition.
I try to feel compassion for my ex, but it has been difficult to feel anything but anger and resentment. All of this transformation came at a very high price for myself and our children, both financially and emotionally. I expect I will be paying for counsellors for many years.
But a lot of what I feel now, many years later, is simply relief. I am glad I am no longer entangled with this person and never shall be again. I feel as though I am still reconstructing my own life, but even so, my life is better now than when I was married. I am able to be a good mother to my children. I have done well in my career, and I have time for my children and to engage in hobbies.
I cannot bring myself to date anyone, though. I do not think I shall ever trust anyone to be a romantic partner to me again.
And even now, I still grieve for my lost husband and I think I shall always do so. But I want nothing to do with who this person is now. It is very clear that the person I fell in love with, my former husband... that person effectively died many years ago, if they ever existed at all.
For anyone else in this situation: please ask for help and find a way through this. Read available resources on narcissism and autogynephilia, both of which appear to be very common in these "married and transitioning at or beyond the age 40" scenarios. Find a counsellor (and likely a solicitor) who can help you. Do not fall for the lie that everything is all about this transgender person and that you and your life and mental health is irrelevant compared to what they're dealing with.
Please do not ignore the fact that you are going through life-changing trauma and yes, there is a high probability that you shall divorce your husband. It is one of the many odd similarities I have learned since meeting other trans widows: along with the sexual obsessions and profligate spending and narcissism, we are also almost always the one in the marriage who initiates divorce proceedings.
You do not have to live as a prisoner in a marriage with a neglectful or abusive spouse. There is a life waiting for you on the other side.
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So then why didn't she leave when he immediately put on her bra and panties in the bedroom? Just like Tinsel, she knew this (Tinsel at least admitted she stupidly knew about it before they got married) and stuck around for years.
I feel more bad for the women whose husbands just suddenly put on a skirt in the bedroom in the name of "spicing" up their love life only to never take it off than I do for the ones who saw this behavior early on and didn't walk away. It's sad if it was because they had nowhere else to go, but is it really worth the Stockholm Syndrome the moment things escalate because he wanted to coom from the power he has over you?
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Yeah exactly. I really want to have sympathy for these people, but when I hear shit like "he liked to dress as a woman and have me peg him"
Fucking lmao I mean come the fuck on? That guy is a fucking degenerate monster, he was never going to get better, she should have kicked the creepy AGP faggot out right there and got a restraining order to keep him away from her kids if she had any.
She even knew what AGP was she seriously thought staying with a porn rotted fetishist was going to end well?
I really do want to have sympathy, but there's a difference between someone who gets surprised by her husband suddenly Trooning and someone that's known the weird fuck dressed like a woman for years and even pegged the crazy faggot.
Stockholm Syndrome I guess explains it.
Maybe?
Ladies, if your husband ever asks you to peg him, he's a fucking creepy faggot, he's probably a Troon, get away and keep him away from the kids.
This shouldn't be something people need explaining.
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probably the consequences of being raised with and surrounded by liberal values for most of her life.
crossdressing and pegging are lgbt, and lgbt equals good. if you got a problem with that then you're a bi erasing homophobe.
yeah her pegging him basically means she's barely a step below him on the degeneracy scale.
like if 0 is normal and 100 is trooning out, he's at 100 and she's at like 85.
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Seriously.
Pegging the Troon while he wears his pretty dress and high heels
Sounds like the perfect end to any romantic evening, having to rush to wash human shit off the bedsheets before the smell and the stains set in.
Hooked on phobics
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Posting one from the articles though
I THINK going off headlines / other shit, this may be the one (possibly of more) , which is fortunately censored. While its not cp or anything its uncomfortably close, so censoring it to that degree is pretty necessary (its posting kids without consent alongside sexual captions). Theres other pictures of his instagram shit full of this, and worse porn meme shit all over. He also got shit for writing erotic fanfiction about murdering a real town resident to steal her identity, so believing he would post images of kids in his memes REALLY isn't a huge stretch.
I can't entirely blame you for not finding it. even if bubba story was brief, him not getting his own fucking thread was a tragedy, as all his info is basically spread all the fuck over. Instead it was dumped into the tranny sideshow thread, which only serves to dilute things further.
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Thank you. Dangerous Obsession was easy to find, but the child captions were not. I wish he had his own thread around the time it was relevant, it would've been so much easier to condense. He's making a new rounds on reddit it seems recently.
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I've listened to this woman before, she's done a few interviews with different people. On one hand she absolutely seems indoctrinated and easy to pushover, but on the other....She literally let him be weird and gross for years and years from the start. She bugs me, a lot, I can't stand people with no backbone. I just wonder how much she actually got off on until he started doing things she didn't like.
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Depends when he decided he liked to be dressed up and pegged. If this was something she knew pre marriage and kids that’s rather more on her. If it was sprung on her after they’d got married and she was pregnant then that’s a different matter.
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Yes, thats what these abusive assholes like to do. They spring it like a trap, when their wife is busy nursing their 5 month old baby. The wife is now trapped in an impossible situation, while the egotistical husband is angry that he is not the center of attention in the family anymore. Its so fucked up.
Fuck these creeps x 1000. TTD
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"Pegging" takes two, last I checked.
I know a terf brigade will show up to tell me every trooned out male is holding his shivering little wifey at gunpoint to make her fuck him up the ass. But I don't believe that for a second.
Do degenerate acts upon the request of a degenerate person and guess what you have become?
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Nothing is on her. Men can have their gay little kinks and not troon. Is it something all who troon have? Yes. Do they necessarily always troon if they like those things? No. Are they faggots? You decide for yourself.
The trans widow is never at fault over the mans choice to troon, thus making her leave. Trans widows are usually lied to, manipulated and put in awful situations by these men. Some of these men pride themselves in how manipulative they are, how good of liars they are, ect. After all, their main source if joy in their lives (trooning/cooming) is all about lieing.
The trans widow is never at fault over the mans choice to troon, thus making her leave. Trans widows are usually lied to, manipulated and put in awful situations by these men. Some of these men pride themselves in how manipulative they are, how good of liars they are, ect. After all, their main source if joy in their lives (trooning/cooming) is all about lieing.
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A dude who likes being pegged is definitely a faggot. Maybe a closeted one, but definitely a faggot.
And a woman who pegs him is a fucking degenerate.
The only person to blame for a creep Trooning out though is the Troon.
Nobody is putting a gun to their head and cutting their dicks off.
They make a choice to put their fetish ahead of anything and everything in their lives, even their families.
Thats not on their partner, thats on the Troon.
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Men did their crossdressing kinks before trooning out became cool, I agree, but it just wasn't cool to leave your family for another man at the time, that was something only closeted men did when they hit their midlife crisis and couldn't take it anymore. In hindsight, you can pity both: the man for needing to lie to himself to fit in with society, and the woman for being lied to for decades because homosexuality isn't normal and she didn't know the signs. Same goes for vice-versa, though the woman does tend to be more vicious about it.
Nowadays, the troon cult has taken advantage of liberal tolerance and made it to where you could technically get away with it consequence-free and also climb the social ladder, so abusive men desiring/drunk on power have taken it upon themselves to suddenly decide they were troons after years of indulging in their kinks. Maybe the men of the past mentioned above were thinking of using it as a weapon beforehand (becauae what self-respecting woman would partake in pegging to begin with?) but didn't think they could get away with it, now it's become more likely they will. And women still don't know about the signs despite the Internet because they have been conditioned to ignore the warning signs in the name of "He's just misunderstood/expressing himself/I can fix him!"
When you observe your peers and notice the patterns for a long time, you can only pity the gullibility of women so many times before it becomes frustrating.
Nowadays, the troon cult has taken advantage of liberal tolerance and made it to where you could technically get away with it consequence-free and also climb the social ladder, so abusive men desiring/drunk on power have taken it upon themselves to suddenly decide they were troons after years of indulging in their kinks. Maybe the men of the past mentioned above were thinking of using it as a weapon beforehand (becauae what self-respecting woman would partake in pegging to begin with?) but didn't think they could get away with it, now it's become more likely they will. And women still don't know about the signs despite the Internet because they have been conditioned to ignore the warning signs in the name of "He's just misunderstood/expressing himself/I can fix him!"
When you observe your peers and notice the patterns for a long time, you can only pity the gullibility of women so many times before it becomes frustrating.
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The trooning out is on him, I have no sympathy for any of these men, they destroy their families to chase their fetishes.
I would also run a mile from any man who wanted to be pegged. Or frankly had any kind of significant sexual deviancy. It’s always the tip of the iceberg and it always escalates.
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not on a comparable scale though
its impossible to really know the numbers, but i am pretty certain that before the recent widespread proliferation of deviancy and kink in general, all this crossdressing and pegging and trooning and cuckold shit was at least a hundred times more rare than it is now
this is the kind of shit that almost nobody comes up with on his own, the thought doesn't enter the mind at all unless someone else tells him about it
(probably doesn't help that journalists are occasionally publishing "men should wear skirts" and "all men should try pegging" articles)
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I'm gonna assume majority of the crossdressing antics were kept to the theater and elite debauchery before drag queens in gay bars became a thing. Seems like it was generally accepted that if a man put on women's clothing unironically, it was because they were gay or having a drunken gay old time with the bros by making fun of their wives.
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Alot of these men have the crossdressing fetish in them their entire lives, even before they are sexual. They will see a man crossdressing for a bit in a youtube video or a children's cartoon and get this idea they want to, as well. That's the erotic target location error. It gets worse the more they indulge it but it's always there as an interest even subtly. Trooning, cucking ect is of course way more common in adult media and not something you see until you're of age (hopefully).
So, I agree in that it's much more common due to media depictions, but they can definitely come up with it on their own. The idea of wearing women's clothes/trying to become a woman due to a man feeling humiliated doing so is going to be a thing as long as being "feminine" is seen as humiliating and lesser.