Transformers general thread - Toy Robot men based on giant robots based on previously mentioned toys about said robots

[RumblyTumbly]

Last year, I re-read Marvel's GI Joe series, probably my favorite comic series of all time.

But since I re-read that, I figured, I'd so the same for the Marvel Transformers series this.

I'm up to issue 72 of 80, and overall, its pretty much as I remember it. Kind of clunky for most of it, with a few stand out issues (Like Issue 13). However, things got more interesting at about issue 50 when Starscream gets the Underbase power and goes on a killing spree. And then Simon Furman takes over as head writer at issue 56 and the story telling gets a lot more epic with things like the Matrix Quest, the reveal of Primus, the Decepticon civil war, and the coming of Unicron. It gets a lot more interesting and my understanding is that this happened because the sales were down and the staff got to a point where they said "Screw it, lets just do whatever we want" and the end result were some very memorable stories that elevated characters like Grimlock, Jazz, Galvatron, Thunderwing, Bludgeon, and the like.

I still prefer Marvel's run on GI Joe, but Transformers has its stand out moments too.

 

[Kup]

Last year, I re-read Marvel's GI Joe series, probably my favorite comic series of all time.

But since I re-read that, I figured, I'd so the same for the Marvel Transformers series this.

I'm up to issue 72 of 80, and overall, its pretty much as I remember it. Kind of clunky for most of it, with a few stand out issues (Like Issue 13). However, things got more interesting at about issue 50 when Starscream gets the Underbase power and goes on a killing spree. And then Simon Furman takes over as head writer at issue 56 and the story telling gets a lot more epic with things like the Matrix Quest, the reveal of Primus, the Decepticon civil war, and the cominc of Unicron. It gets a lot more interesting and my understanding is that this happened because the sales were down and the staff got to a point where they said "Screw it, lets just do whatever we want" and the end result were some very memorable stories that elevated characters like Grimlock, Jazz, Galvatron, Thunderwing, Bludgeon, and the like.

I still prefer Marvel's run on GI Joe, but Transformers has its stand out moments too.

The G2 continuation has that same “fuck it, do whatever” energy because their sales expectations were so unrealistically high they knew they were gonna get canned. There is literally a character named Jhiaxus (gee-ax-us)

The other continuation is Regeneration One, a twenty issue finale to the Marvel run that ties up every loose end, it is a somber bittersweet ending but it’s in tone with Furman’s style.

 

[Marissa Moira]

I really hope the rumors of NEW SCALE COMBINERS are not real.

While a redone menasor would maybe be welcome, having the main body take up the commander slot and all 4 limbs take up voyager slots would not be ideal since we get so few slots as is.

That and we're only missing Monstructor/Dinoking from classic G1 and to just get all combiners again in the new size is going to be a bore, just for another chance to finally get Dinoking or Monstructor.

And going by third party combiners, they're not even bothering having the main combiner body transform, it's separate pieces that are fully formed robot bits and the main torso robot just becomes a backpack or something insignificant that's just stored away.

They also brought back pretenders with the Marvel Mech Strike


See that robot, it opens up just like a Pretender and Thanos gets right inside. Why can't we get more late era G1 dudes who do exactly that?

 

[Kup]

I really hope the rumors of NEW SCALE COMBINERS are not real.

While a redone menasor would maybe be welcome, having the main body take up the commander slot and all 4 limbs take up voyager slots would not be ideal since we get so few slots as is.

That and we're only missing Monstructor/Dinoking from classic G1 and to just get all combiners again in the new size is going to be a bore, just for another chance to finally get Dinoking or Monstructor.

And going by third party combiners, they're not even bothering having the main combiner body transform, it's separate pieces that are fully formed robot bits and the main torso robot just becomes a backpack or something insignificant that's just stored away.

They also brought back pretenders with the Marvel Mech Strike
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See that robot, it opens up just like a Pretender and Thanos gets right inside. Why can't we get more late era G1 dudes who do exactly that?

Rumour is core-class inner bots, between the combiner garbage and TF: Prime nonsense I’m gonna save some serious money. More Sharkticons I suppose.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Rumour is core-class inner bots, between the combiner garbage and TF: Prime nonsense I’m gonna save some serious money. More Sharkticons I suppose.

I'd buy core class dudes, sofar they've been decent.

What's the TF Prime Nonsense? First I'm hearing of it.

 

[Kup]

I'd buy core class dudes, sofar they've been decent.

What's the TF Prime Nonsense? First I'm hearing of it.

Lenny forced updated TF: Prime figures into the 2022 lineup. RED Arcee and those reissues last year were the predecessor to it. Leaks have consistently listed the TF: Prime crap.

Get ready for noseless wonders, gross beasts and Stunticons. Hopefully Super7 makes more Pretenders and Action Masters since I’ll have some money freed up.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Lenny forced updated TF: Prime figures into the 2022 lineup. RED Arcee and those reissues last year were the predecessor to it. Leaks have consistently listed the TF: Prime crap.

Get ready for noseless wonders, gross beasts and Stunticons. Hopefully Super7 makes more Pretenders and Action Masters since I’ll have some money freed up.

Oh my god why? They're literally the same characters we've gotten already but worse.

They're also much more recent and can still be found with ease on the secondary market.

 

[Kup]

Oh my god why? They're literally the same characters we've gotten already but worse.

They're also much more recent and can still be found with ease on the secondary market.

Lenny’s tenure with the brand was…. questionable at best and incompetent at worst. Starting from the top, reissues that are still clogging Hasbro Pulse and didn’t fix their sticker problems, corrosive (possibly) rubbery plastic on the new BW figures, RED series, increased instances of breakage, Kingdom Rhinox (he personally made this one), forcing BW into the WFC trilogy and in doing so dividing the 1986 characters across two lines and leaving a mismatched cast clearly designed by different teams, not acknowledging Armada’s anniversary in favour of a lesser line that is not only newer but as you said it’s crap still clogs E-stores and is harder to monetize in the long-run. Prime has like 15 characters….. Armada has quite a bit more and they already have the molds for minicons (micros.)

That and Rodimus as a commander is shameful, I see the value but that price point is meant for guys like Powermaster Prime and Thunderwing.

I’m a bit biased cause I’m an Armadafag but come on!

 

[XYZpdq]

Last year, I re-read Marvel's GI Joe series, probably my favorite comic series of all time.

But since I re-read that, I figured, I'd so the same for the Marvel Transformers series this.

I'm up to issue 72 of 80, and overall, its pretty much as I remember it. Kind of clunky for most of it, with a few stand out issues (Like Issue 13). However, things got more interesting at about issue 50 when Starscream gets the Underbase power and goes on a killing spree. And then Simon Furman takes over as head writer at issue 56 and the story telling gets a lot more epic with things like the Matrix Quest, the reveal of Primus, the Decepticon civil war, and the coming of Unicron. It gets a lot more interesting and my understanding is that this happened because the sales were down and the staff got to a point where they said "Screw it, lets just do whatever we want" and the end result were some very memorable stories that elevated characters like Grimlock, Jazz, Galvatron, Thunderwing, Bludgeon, and the like.

I still prefer Marvel's run on GI Joe, but Transformers has its stand out moments too.

yeah I followed the Marvel USA comics since the first couple of dozen, they were pretty good stuff
still keep meaning to read the UK stuff, esp since I'm a big nerd for Death's Head

 

[Marissa Moira]

Lenny’s tenure with the brand was…. questionable at best and incompetent at worst. Starting from the top, reissues that are still clogging Hasbro Pulse and didn’t fix their sticker problems, corrosive (possibly) rubbery plastic on the new BW figures, RED series, increased instances of breakage, Kingdom Rhinox (he personally made this one), forcing BW into the WFC trilogy and in doing so dividing the 1986 characters across two lines and leaving a mismatched cast clearly designed by different teams, not acknowledging Armada’s anniversary in favour of a lesser line that is not only newer but as you said it’s crap still clogs E-stores and is harder to monetize in the long-run. Prime has like 15 characters….. Armada has quite a bit more and they already have the molds for minicons (micros.)

That and Rodimus as a commander is shameful, I see the value but that price point is meant for guys like Powermaster Prime and Thunderwing.

I’m a bit biased cause I’m an Armadafag but come on!

Who's incontrol of the brand now? I know Lenny was the GIJoe guy, but I'm going to imagine that there's going to be a ton of stuff that may be scrapped. Gears and Gnaw were notorious for being scrapped and then slotted for other lines only to be scrapped again. In fact the original Generations legends class had the last few releases like Nemesis Prime have collection numbers that skipped like 7 releases.

 

[Kup]

Who's incontrol of the brand now? I know Lenny was the GIJoe guy, but I'm going to imagine that there's going to be a ton of stuff that may be scrapped. Gears and Gnaw were notorious for being scrapped and then slotted for other lines only to be scrapped again. In fact the original Generations legends class had the last few releases like Nemesis Prime have collection numbers that skipped like 7 releases.

Last I heard it was Mark? The hobo stoner looking guy who showed off the Fossilizer combiner. We’re already seeing shifted priorities, rumour was the Ark would be the last titan. Now there’s buzz about the Nemesis and Metroplex 2.0, Transmetal 2 Megatron rumours and those Core Class Pretenders I mentioned.

If they were smart they’d have Polar Claw in the chamber, I want him.

yeah I followed the Marvel USA comics since the first couple of dozen, they were pretty good stuff
still keep meaning to read the UK stuff, esp since I'm a big nerd for Death's Head

Time Wars is still one of the greatest TF stories, if only for Galvatron cementing his lifetime status as crazy-awesome.

 

[The Dude]

The clear external visor, how does it mount onto his head? I’m hoping to get this look.
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Does it look like this could be achievable? I know you don’t have Scorpy yet but I’m just trying to figure out if I can do this without having to get some styrene and making my own visor.

If you look at his head, he's got these horns/mandibles on the side. Those just pop out, you slide the clear visor on, then reinsert the horns/mandibles back in place. The pegs that hold the horns/mandibles onto the head slide through holes on the sides of the visor and into the ports on the side of the head they normally slot into, and that keeps the visor in place. From the photos I've seen, you can raise the visor up a bit, but I think the brow/helmet of his head gets in the way of the visor going up very far. When I get my Scorponok and get all my upgrade goodies installed then I will take photos of him and post them here, and I'll do my best to remember to snap some of the visor installed and how far up it can go for you. Feel free to remind me down the line.

 

[Kup]

If you look at his head, he's got these horns/mandibles on the side. Those just pop out, you slide the clear visor on, then reinsert the horns/mandibles back in place. The pegs that hold the horns/mandibles onto the head slide through holes on the sides of the visor and into the ports on the side of the head they normally slot into, and that keeps the visor in place. From the photos I've seen, you can raise the visor up a bit, but I think the brow/helmet of his head gets in the way of the visor going up very far. When I get my Scorponok and get all my upgrade goodies installed then I will take photos of him and post them here, and I'll do my best to remember to snap some of the visor installed and how far up it can go for you. Feel free to remind me down the line.

Thanks, I’ve got my kits coming too. Worst comes to worst I’ll use the existing visor as a template for a new one.

 

[TiggerNits]

Last year, I re-read Marvel's GI Joe series, probably my favorite comic series of all time.

But since I re-read that, I figured, I'd so the same for the Marvel Transformers series this.

I'm up to issue 72 of 80, and overall, its pretty much as I remember it. Kind of clunky for most of it, with a few stand out issues (Like Issue 13). However, things got more interesting at about issue 50 when Starscream gets the Underbase power and goes on a killing spree. And then Simon Furman takes over as head writer at issue 56 and the story telling gets a lot more epic with things like the Matrix Quest, the reveal of Primus, the Decepticon civil war, and the coming of Unicron. It gets a lot more interesting and my understanding is that this happened because the sales were down and the staff got to a point where they said "Screw it, lets just do whatever we want" and the end result were some very memorable stories that elevated characters like Grimlock, Jazz, Galvatron, Thunderwing, Bludgeon, and the like.

I still prefer Marvel's run on GI Joe, but Transformers has its stand out moments too.

I loved the Hama GI Joe comics as a kid, with the exception of all the ninja shit, but I was never a kid that was way in to ninjas. I still greatly enjoy most GI Joe, even got all the comics when IDW got the license and really enjoyed the Cobra series starring Chuckles. Something about GI Joe translates really well to comics. But I will also be the first to admit that Transformers works so much better in film. I've hated every GI Joe movie so far, and I know Snakeyes will probably not do it for me either (I never liked the ninja shit Hama shoved in so often) but the first Transformer's move and the Bumblebee 80s flick were a lot of fun . So it evens out I suppose

 

[Kup]

RED is normally shit…. But this is interesting.

 

[RumblyTumbly]

I loved the Hama GI Joe comics as a kid, with the exception of all the ninja shit, but I was never a kid that was way in to ninjas. I still greatly enjoy most GI Joe, even got all the comics when IDW got the license and really enjoyed the Cobra series starring Chuckles. Something about GI Joe translates really well to comics. But I will also be the first to admit that Transformers works so much better in film. I've hated every GI Joe movie so far, and I know Snakeyes will probably not do it for me either (I never liked the ninja shit Hama shoved in so often) but the first Transformer's move and the Bumblebee 80s flick were a lot of fun . So it evens out I suppose

See I loved the Ninja shit, lol. Its such a staple of the 80s.

Although I will say there was a member of the Joe Ninja Force whose name I never learned to pronounce.

Its this guy, T'Jbang

How the hell do you pronounce that? lol.

 

[TiggerNits]

See I loved the Ninja shit, lol. Its such a staple of the 80s.

Although I will say there was a member of the Joe Ninja Force whose name I never learned to pronounce.

Its this guy, T'Jbang

How the hell do you pronounce that? lol.

My guess: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P33yU1uUzOA

 

[Kup]

Behold! The nu-Wreckers!

That is most cringe I’ve gotten from TF in awhile, no original members at all.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Behold! The nu-Wreckers!
View attachment 2368877That is most cringe I’ve gotten from TF in awhile, no original members at all.

It doesn't matter, all that matters is that all of them get toys.

If Minerva is getting a figure that means Nightbeat and Siren are a given. Circuit looks like a jazz retool and I'm guessing Earthmode Mirage is going to be used for the gobot reference character.

Selects Ricochet and Hotshot's prices are probably going to Skyrocket.

A new Thunderclash figure would be welcome since we have Rotorstorm but if it's direct repaint both Magnus and Prime's modes suck balls for it, he needs to be original.

 

[Kup]

It doesn't matter, all that matters is that all of them get toys.

If Minerva is getting a figure that means Nightbeat and Siren are a given. Circuit looks like a jazz retool and I'm guessing Earthmode Mirage is going to be used for the gobot reference character.

Selects Ricochet and Hotshot's prices are probably going to Skyrocket.

A new Thunderclash figure would be welcome since we have Rotorstorm but if it's direct repaint both Magnus and Prime's modes suck balls for it, he needs to be original.

Makes me think this “wreckers” comic is just a bunch of next year’s repaints jammed into one advertisement.