Trolling Ethics Debate Thread

[BT 075]

This shit is like GamerGate... ITS ABOUT ETHICS IN KICKING THE AUTISTIC U GUISE!!!1!!

 

[Pinhead]

I've been kinda hesitant to post in this thread. In the past, I've done some pretty stupid trolling attempts. I impersonated members of his family. Admittedly it was more just to see if he was stupid enough to fall for it, and I never intended any big sagas. I found it more amusing to fuck with people here than to fuck with Chris, even though I admit it was still pretty amusing to me at the time, for the sheer novelty of Chris replying to me.

That being said, I've felt more guilt about it than I ever did amusement. It just makes me a bad person who doesn't live up to his projected ideals. I impersonated a lonely psychopath's estranged family, and that's bad no matter what way you look at it.

However, I'm still here posting on the boards, and I really find no reason to lecture others about whether it's right or wrong to troll him. But things like Skyraider and people who go all the way to Virginia just to fuck with a retard... that's getting into the realms of creepy.

That being said (again) I still laugh my ass off at the Pickleman stuff. So I dunno. I guess I fall somewhere between "feeling guilty" and "feeling amused".

 

[Flowers For Sonichu]

Lol this is exactly what I'm talking about, you've become personally invested in calling them out. You lack objectivity, and it makes you sound really mad when you post shit just like this. I mean who calls him garbageraider? What are you, 8? Come on man, have some respect for your fellow posters if nothing else.

How do I lack objectivity? He literally raided Chris' garbage. Calling him garbageraider is hilarious because it's true. Why do you need to defend them so virulently? If trolls can't handle being trolled themselves, then they shouldn't be trolling in the first place.

 

[Ruin]

P logic revealing he's autistic was one of the least surprising revelations on this forum.

 

[P-Logic]

So you're admitting that you're taking a contrarian position to amuse yourself?

I actually have a contrarian position, but I only post about it because I find it amusing. If I didn't enjoy it I wouldn't bother.

I'm just letting you know that no one believes for one second that you aren't trying to gain acceptance in here, from us and anyone else watching.

Uh, ok. Thanks. I don't mind discussing myself but I think it might start to get boring for everyone else. Maybe we can get back on topic now? I believe there's a thread about me in the super sekrit shitposting forum, so you can go there if you want to whine about me or call me an autist I guess.

 

[Uzumaki]

It's amazing how every time a retard embarrasses himself on an internet forum, it turns out he was a puppet master pulling everyone's string the whole time.

 

[HG 400]

It's amazing how every time a exceptional individual embarrasses himself on an internet forum, it turns out he was a puppet master pulling everyone's string the whole time.

 

[Holdek]

So I dunno. I guess I fall somewhere between "feeling guilty" and "feeling amused".

I think it's important to remember that the two aren't necessarily contradictory. Just because something is wrong doesn't mean it isn't funny.

 

[Kosher Dill]

Skyraider: I'm really disturbed by your complete disdain for Chris and Barb that is coupled with your obsession with stalking them. It's one thing to take pictures of their stuff and laugh at them, but you almost seem to get some sort of schadenfreude out of it because you think they're bad people who deserve to be punished. In nearly every single post you make, you talk about how they're terrible people and don't deserve nice things at all and are better off living in some ditch. I don't understand what you accomplished by posting his scorched homework

I don't know what all the anti-skyraiderism around here is about. As far as the "A-Logging" he does: I'm assuming he works on something related to the 14BC reconstruction, and he's had to deal with the Chandlers personally. Why shouldn't he share his informed opinion based on how they treated him and what he saw?
And as for the homework: it was easily the most enlightening content we've gotten in years, and he got it without any complicated trolling schemes or doing anything illegal. If he didn't take it, it would have just moved from the Chandlers' private landfill to a public one, and that would have been the end of it.

 

[garbageraider]

Skyraider: I'm really disturbed by your complete disdain for Chris and Barb that is coupled with your obsession with stalking them.

I appreciate your concern, but I'm not obsessed with them, although one could make the argument that any member of this board is to some extent. My interest in Chris is not maladaptive. Chris is one hobby among many for me.

It's one thing to take pictures of their stuff and laugh at them, but you almost seem to get some sort of schadenfreude out of it because you think they're bad people who deserve to be punished. In nearly every single post you make, you talk about how they're terrible people and don't deserve nice things at all and are better off living in some ditch.

I don't understand why you would think that. I am not A-Log. I neither hate nor pity the Chandlers. I tell it how it is. They suffer, but entirely because of their own choices, and they bite any hand that tries to help them. They create their own negative karma and suffer the effects. If you want my true and honest feels, more than anything else, I am frustrated at the Chandlers for making bad decision after bad decision, and their stubborn refusal to improve their own lives. I guess in a way, that makes me more of a white knight than anything else.

I don't understand what you accomplished by posting his scorched homework, I'm pretty sure Chris' actions over the past ten years have shown that Chris' Honor Roll ranking is on par with the special ed kids I went to high school with who achieved Honor Roll status.

Let's be honest here. The forums ate up Chris's homework and the leaks were very popular. There was a drought of new content, and I wanted to fill that hole, bridge that gap, to keep the forums going and bring some new content to you guys. I've done a lot of hard work to benefit this forum without any expectation of reward, just so that some of you sitting at home could get a chuckle out of some new content, or gain a new insight. I knew that releasing his homework was controversial, but I did so anyways. Do I really need to repost in full what I said at that time?

You really need to chill out and tone it down a little bit with your hatred for the Chandlers, that coupled with your stalking of them comes across as really spiteful and petty.

Your judgment of me comes across as really spiteful and petty, especially considering that you don't know the full facts for much of what you're judging me for. I try to have the utmost respect for other posters here and not pass judgment, even when they disagree with myself. Diversity of opinion is what these boards are all about, and it is what fuels debate and keeps these boards alive. I keep my mind open to the possibility that I am in error when I make an assessment, and am willing to change my assessment if new facts come to light.

Catherine: You did something that dozens of trolls have done before, but you provided the least interesting and most depressing content of everyone.

If you're referring to what Chris has done publically over the past several months, most of that was Chris being Chris, not "Catherine". It's interesting that you are already passing judgment on "Catherine" when the vast majority of her content hasn't been seen by you or the public yet.

 

[Male Idiot]

I think what is acceptable and what isn't depends on the harm done to Chris.

Skyraider may dislike Chris in his posts, but its his right of free speech and digging through trash is harmless. He wasn't stealing anything Chris would still need or want for some reason. There is no need to hate him for his opinion. He provided us with fun content without hurting Chris.

"Catie" did not abuse Chris either, even if "her" trolling resulted in less funny stuff than her predecessors. I think people judge her because she didn't deliver the same content as lets say Julaaaaay.

Trolling Chris is fine to me as long as he isn't harmed or provoked to harm himself.

Trolls telling him to shove pieces of medallions up his butt or telling him to invest all his family's money in lottery tickets or trying to burn his house down or telling him to kill himself and be reborn as Sonichu is not okey.

Chris does these dangerous things to himself like his unclit or buying a new car on a loan on his own free will.
As said before, he is his own biggest troll and sends all types of embarassing and or funny material to the world all by himself.
He does provide content on his own.
Sometimes its funny to nudge him along, but nowdays he is just too lazy and depressed to reply to such efforts.

His father died and his house burned down. That would knock all but the most cold hearted psychopaths down a notch. Chris is not one of them.

But making videos about him, calling him stupid, or digging through trash and stalking is fine with me.
It does not harm Chris.
Worst that can happen is that you get covered in trash or spent hours of your life stalking a smelly Chris when you could have been doing something more enjoyable.
You want to send Chris a picture of Sonichu with blue coloured arms? Be my guest. He won't be harmed, he will just tard rage a bit.
You want to call him and yell JULAAYY? Its stupid, you are wasting your time and money, but if it makes you feel good...

Trolling Chris has never been about protecting others. It has always been fun gained by mocking an easy to provoke clown. Chris's real high school galpals at the worst would get a few nasty emails from Chris. They are grown up people, they can just delete it like any normal person.
I don't think you need to justify trolling him with such "protect these people" cover story.

Chris isn't a psycho killer. He is harmless and a coward. He won't kill anybody and I sincerely doubt he could cause much harm to someone even if he tried. Worst thing you could get from fighting Chris is a few stratches where he claws at you like a 4 year old girl.
My elderly mother could beat up Chris. He could never be a sexual predator even if he wanted to be one.

 

[Xarpho]

I'm assuming he works on something related to the 14BC reconstruction, and he's had to deal with the Chandlers personally. Why shouldn't he share his informed opinion based on how they treated him and what he saw?

After the trolling was revealed, I assumed (and it seemed to be implied), that working with the 14BLC reconstruction was all a to avoid suspicion, with emails done with Chris rather than direct contact.

 

[garbageraider]

I can't believe that a thread devised to prevent other threads from going off-topic went off-topic so quickly.

Meh, at least all this crap is in one thread now instead of de-railing others. It's necessary that people have someplace to discuss this topic, so let's let the forum fight it out here, so to speak.

 

[Flowers For Sonichu]

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I appreciate your respectful approach in all of this, so I will engage you in the same way. Why are you so interested in the life of someone who you obviously loathe? I personally follow Chris because I find his antics hilarious and find him a genuinely entertaining individual, but I feel you possess some sort of hatred of them. You referred to Barb as a "bitch" on multiple occasions and said that they don't deserve to have a nice life because they're awful people. I understand Chris is very dimwitted and antagonistic toward others, which is quite obvious in his dealings with Mary Lee Walsh and the Manajerks, but it seems to me that you get some sort of glee out of their suffering in misfortune during your updates on the 14BLC renovations and their rental property by sharing every minute detail of their life. It strikes me as being creepy and obsessive and I'm sure a lot of people on this forum agree with me on that even if they're not willing to say that.

If you don't hate their guts like I assumed and actually feel bad about them and are an actual White Knight, then why share their pain and suffering with the internet for reasons other than to get people to like you? I don't see how the actions of you and Thetan sharing his personal details are helping in any sort of way other than providing entertainment and getting attention for yourself. I'm fine with you saying you "did it for the lulz", but don't claim to be a white knight because that self-righteousness is what really gets me.

 

[HG 400]

95% of us don't hate or white-knight Chris, you know? There's an entire spectrum of amused ambivalence in between.

 

[Count Olaf]

Satan brings up some excellent points.

There's a sentence I never thought I'd hear in my life. I love this forum.

 

[P-Logic]

Why are you so interested in the life of someone who you obviously loathe?

Because he's a sadist.

 

[Holdek]

Let's be honest here. The forums ate up Chris's homework and the leaks were very popular.

I would at least like to concur with this. People here ate up the content, but then after they were finished began talking shit about Skyraider for the way he obtained it. Which is fine, to a certain degree, but the scolding him about it isn't really called for considering how much the cocks were enjoyed. It's kind of like that line in A Few Good Men:

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it! I'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way.

 

[Very Honest Content]

I'm much more interested in the issues that are going to be discussed on topic in this thread than any of the last few months facebook updates regarding, "My home based arts and crafts business will not be open today due to stress and the need for me to play vidya instead while crying about the color of a character's arms to his parent company."

That being said, life and the people in it owe Chris absolutely nothing. There is no obligation to even be nice to him, he only has rights granted to him by virtue of living under the laws of the United States and the state of Virginia. If trolls break the law in interacting with him, they are open to prosecution and remedy under the justice system where Chris has theoretical equal protection as those that are at fault for the illegal actions they take in regards to him.

Morally, I'm not interested in interacting with Christian Weston Chandler, so I have no worry about consuming any content released by those who chose otherwise. If a troll can sleep at night and doesn't get caught breaking a law in connection to their actions with CWC, then that's between them and their higher power they choose to acknowledge, even if the methods employed are outside the law. Personally, the idea of impersonating real people from his past in an attempt to garner content is repugnant if there was no prior consent given to the troll to usurp their identity online by the impersonated party, but again, if the troll employing that particular tactic isn't getting caught for it by the law and doesn't mind it in regards to their conscience, so be it. I'm no one to judge IMO.

None of the troll produced content has ever surpassed the content Chris himself has generated in the entire history of this affair anyway in regards to how entertaining I've found it.

 

[Trickie]

How do I lack objectivity? He literally raided Chris' garbage. Calling him garbageraider is hilarious because it's true. Why do you need to defend them so virulently? If trolls can't handle being trolled themselves, then they shouldn't be trolling in the first place.

I'm not really on board with condemning Skyraider for what he's done, apart from being a little uncomfortable with it, nor do I really think he's a total A-Log or anything, but I will grant you that "Garbageraider" is pretty funny. I don't know if I'd call him that regularly, but it got a good chuckle out of me.