Trolling Ethics Debate Thread

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The fact that at the start of the date the thing Chris was incredulous about was that she actually showed, yet didn't at all suspect any trolling or tom-foolery speaks fucking volumes. Like he didn't even show any hesitation or try to troll-check at all....
There was apparently a lot of groundwork done before the date to convince Chris that "Catie" wasn't a troll.
 
The fact that at the start of the date the thing Chris was incredulous about was that she actually showed, yet didn't at all suspect any trolling or tom-foolery speaks fucking volumes. Like he didn't even show any hesitation or try to troll-check at all....

There was apparently a lot of groundwork done before the date to convince Chris that "Catie" wasn't a troll.

Thetan (as Renee) had to fake a Photo ID -see Anna McLerran's email. I'm certain Chris demanded something similar of this woman. His desperation glossed over the flaws.
 
Or if he doesn't make the link between her being a troll and her not fleeing in terror from his crazy wedding talk. He seems generally very poor at inductive reasoning.

I kind of agree with that point. It is possible that Catie reinforced his belief that marriage is an acceptable topic of discussion on a first date. Or at least neglected an opportunity to try to crack that belief.

But for that to have any real consequence, we have to posit a woman who would be interested in Chris if only he shut up about marriage until they had been together for a while. I submit that Chris finding such a woman is pretty much an impossibility.

As for the marriage talk in general. I think the inappropriateness comes from mangling and not necessarily because it is inherently inappropriate. I have been on first dates where the date told me she is looking to settle down and is looking for a guy she could marry. It seems like a good idea to get expectations out in the open before too long. If Chris said something like that, it might be ok.

But he fucks it up in two classic Chris ways. Firstly, he just assumes it is going to happen no matter what. This might be a little bit on Catie, since she didn't take the opportunity to correct him. Secondly, his description of marriage is horrible. All that it means for Chris is that Catie moves in with him and Barb and solves their financial problems. That's terrible.
 
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Thetan (as Renee) had to fake a Photo ID -see Anna McLerran's email. I'm certain Chris demanded something similar of this woman. His desperation glossed over the flaws.

Catherine had the fake ID, not me. I was merely relaying a message from Anna where she criticized the ID and called it out for being a fake.

Chris may have asked for an ID (sounds like something Anna would convince him to do) and Catie supplied one, I'm not sure. @skyraider91 knows Catie a lot better than I do and has had more contact with her; maybe he can fill in the blanks.
 
Catherine had the fake ID, not me. I was merely relaying a message from Anna where she criticized the ID and called it out for being a fake.

Chris may have asked for an ID (sounds like something Anna would convince him to do) and Catie supplied one, I'm not sure. @skyraider91 knows Catie a lot better than I do and has had more contact with her; maybe he can fill in the blanks.
So what does Anna screen everyone that comes into Chris's life?
 
So what does Anna screen everyone that comes into Chris's life?

When I first met Chris as "Renee" he strongly suggested that I introduce myself to Anna, so that she wouldn't have any reason to worry about me. I refused, telling him (in a nice way) that I thought it was a bit weird that he had a friend screening people for him, rather than relying on his own judgement. Chris never raised the issue again.
 
trolls are the predators/Lolcows get no china

No.

Virginity/misogyny/lack of China is not a requirement to being a lolcow. Most of the time being a troll is just knowing how to use other peoples weakness and mistakes for fun, and that doesn't need a natural instinct. Just to know where/when to put your attention. Btw, the social darwinism angle is over the place.

Just saying.
 
Given this latest jaw-dropping expression of Chris's credulity, I'd just like to retroactively agree with Absinthe that trolling this dude is so unfair that it's bullying.

Yet I still maintain that I don't think that trolling Chris is unsporting because he's mentally disabled/autistic. No no. Trolling Chris is unsporting because he's the most gullible doofus in human existence.
 
Given this latest jaw-dropping expression of Chris's credulity, I'd just like to retroactively agree with Absinthe that trolling this dude is so unfair that it's bullying.

Yet I still maintain that I don't think that trolling Chris is unsporting because he's mentally disabled/autistic. No no. Trolling Chris is unsporting because he's the most gullible doofus in human existence.
He's not that gullible. Success stories like this letter are rare.

To troll Chris nowadays, you have to do at least one of these things:
  • be particularly smart - lots and lots of people initiate @Thetan style trolling attempts. But there's only a handful of people, like @Thetan, who are actually successful.
  • have an "in" (and a good one, like Anna) with Chris. Watermelon isn't good enough, for example.
  • be particularly lucky
  • be willing to have a girl meet Chris IRL
  • be willing to pay Chris substantial amounts of money for his time. Plus you have to be lucky enough to get your request past Chris' defenses. He'll be wanting to initially dismiss an offer of money because it (understandably) sounds like a troll attempt.
 
On the topic of the "Catie/Chris getting hurt", is Chris basically over Catie?
Old 2008 Chris bounced back from sweethearts rather quickly (like 24 hours quickly)
Chris hasn't mentioned Catie since the break up. Does anyone in the know...know if he's over it already?
 
On the topic of the "Catie/Chris getting hurt", is Chris basically over Catie?
Old 2008 Chris bounced back from sweethearts rather quickly (like 24 hours quickly)
Chris hasn't mentioned Catie since the break up. Does anyone in the know...know if he's over it already?

I think he is choosing to not rember it, he is quite selective in what an how he chooses to recall event's, along with some genuine memory recall problems.
 
On the topic of the "Catie/Chris getting hurt", is Chris basically over Catie?
Old 2008 Chris bounced back from sweethearts rather quickly (like 24 hours quickly)
Chris hasn't mentioned Catie since the break up. Does anyone in the know...know if he's over it already?

From his latest FB post, it looks like he might be back trying his luck with OKCupid again (he still hasn't learned). I haven't completely confirmed this though.
 
From his latest FB post, it looks like he might be back trying his luck with OKCupid again (he still hasn't learned). I haven't completely confirmed this though.


Yea the weens will go after him on it, like with that letter from Sega , surprisingly Chris got fooled by it, which I guess his anger is clouding his judgment not knowing if its real or not.
 
From his latest FB post, it looks like he might be back trying his luck with OKCupid again (he still hasn't learned). I haven't completely confirmed this though.

He hasn't been online there since February 28th. So he isn't doing it actively, if at all.

I suppose it's possible that last time he went on someone asked him a prospects question and he stewed for a while.

My guess is he got it from television. He saw some sitcom father ask some sitcom boyfriend about prospects. Then he imagined himself answering that question. Then he realized his answer would be one of the worst in human history. Then he got annoyed by the whole thing. Then he ranted about it on facebook..
 
From his latest FB post, it looks like he might be back trying his luck with OKCupid again (he still hasn't learned). I haven't completely confirmed this though.

He has no choice but to go back. He's starting to get (really) desprite and the meeting someone in town isn't happening.

He will go back, he will get trolled again and he will not learn anything.
 
You're right. There's plenty of people so wacky that they have an entire wiki, message board and image board created around them... Chris is belligerent, obnoxious, unrelenting and improper. Plenty of people are the same, yes, but you add in the wacked out conspiracy theories of trolls and such, and you have a nice big pot of crazy that can't be fun to deal with when trying to structure a legal defense.

I'm replying here so as not to derail.

In the British Museum are all these Egyptian mummies. Most of these are dead royalty/nobility, and it took what was then expensive state-of-the-art medical procedures to preserve the bodies.

As a result, scientists can study the mummies and learn many details of how they lived and died.

Also among the mummies is an incredibly well-preserved corpse nicknamed Ginger. He was a poor commoner, and when he died he was buried in the desert sand. Coincidentally, these desert conditions preserved his corpse in a better state than many of the royal mummies in their expensive tombs. Even some of his hair is intact.

As a result, more can be learned about Ginger than a lot of the pharaohs and court officials - not because of any special qualities or achievements of his, but because of a chance set of circumstances.

Chris is basically Ginger. He is noteworthy because so many details of his life are documented on the internet. We have access to Chris, in a way we only typically do to celebrities.

Thus, I think it's perfectly understandable to project superlativeness onto Chris, because we are conditioned with the idea that celebrities represent superlative achievement in some field: the richest, the most powerful, most sexually attractive, most proficient at their sport or art.

Chris is primarily known for being stupid, repulsive and bad at art; we make him the stupidest, the most repulsive, the worst artist - because that's what naturally fits the level of detail we have on his life.

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I realise I've meandered way off point. I do agree that Chris would not be anyone's client of choice. I suppose I just wanted to make the argument I've tried to make above alongside that.
 
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